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Snappy
post Nov 13 2007, 09:44 AM
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http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n810,demo

Any takers? laugh.gif
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post Nov 13 2007, 11:31 AM
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There are all of a sudden a good number of very tempting gadgets, most of them at very good prices. I wish I could justify getting the Fujitsu, the EEEPC, or the N810, but I just can't at the moment sad.gif.

So yes, I am VERY tempted, but not at this point in time.
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post Nov 13 2007, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Nov 13 2007, 11:31 AM) *
There are all of a sudden a good number of very tempting gadgets, most of them at very good prices. I wish I could justify getting the Fujitsu, the EEEPC, or the N810, but I just can't at the moment sad.gif.

So yes, I am VERY tempted, but not at this point in time.


I think i've finally found my zaurus replacement.....
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nilch
post Nov 13 2007, 07:34 PM
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I am going for the N810 too - my Zaurus replacemernt and in-car GPS device too.

Niiiiiccccce !
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post Nov 13 2007, 07:50 PM
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here... here... I'm already starting to give hints to my wife that I may get one. I may have to sell my C1K though sad.gif. Did anyone notice that Reed Richards was using a Nokia N800 on Fantastic Four 2 Rise of the Silver Surfer???
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post Nov 14 2007, 12:27 AM
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Indeed,

I have had a 770 for ~4 months now (got it from expansys for 70!!) This works great, and I have been picking up the 770 more than the 3100 for most of that time.

A doubling of Clock speed and RAM, 2GB of onboard Flash AND a gps, along with the existing integral BT & Wifi will probably knock the Zaurus permanently to the sidelines I'm afraid, so a 3100 plus all the addons may be up for grabs in a month or so...

Cheers,

Alistair
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post Nov 14 2007, 12:28 AM
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Free Palm OS Emulator is available now.
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:38 PM
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Dammit, and just after i bought my C1000 ;(
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:53 PM
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sell it off as quick as you bought it ... :-)

The n810 is just around he corner - from market gossip ...
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:59 PM
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http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/11/12/zaurus-m...to-be-obsolete/ is worth reading now...
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post Nov 14 2007, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Hrw @ Nov 14 2007, 12:59 PM) *

I read the stuff at the link. I think I don't agree with some of it--agreed there are newer devices which may see better support, and do more , agreed developers have priorities, agreed that sharp doesn't support the Zaurus, and that Angstrom devs will likely be working most on the Neo--and that the neo is a good idea and an interesting device. The thing about Angstrom support for the Zaurus is that it really hasn't been terrific. I've never found an OE or Angstrom release to be useable in any but the most literal and simple minded sense. I agree that OE/Angstrom kernel development for the Z has been tremendously important and influential, and that the time the OE/Angstrom devs have spent on the Z has been good for the community and, I think, for some of the ideas in Neo development.

My take: I wouldn't bet on a really useable Angstrom for anything from Nokia, either-- though possibly some important contributions will be made.
I really only expect polished work on the Neo and related devices--I'll probably buy one and use it. I just don't think that a lack of Angstrom enthusiasm for the Z means much about the state of the Zaurus--pdaXrom continues, and some interesting things are being done with debian (using Angstrom kernels, I admit). The Zaurus has, I think, a bit of useable life left, even if the Angstrom devs abandon it tomorrow- though I hope the build system continues to produce the updated Zaurus kernels that have had such an impact.

Edit-- re the original question, the 810 is very cool, but it would only represent an incremental improvement to my Z (at best) and accessories. the difference doesn't seem worth the expense. Now If I had no Z, ans were interested in a new linux powered handheld I'd probably buy this rather than a "new" Zaurus...
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post Nov 15 2007, 02:23 PM
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I think adf is right in his rebuttal of hrw's suggestion that the Z is dead - Angstrom is mainly, as I see it, a learning platform for people who are very serious about linux and need very little documentation; OpenZaurus was gaining traction and seemed quite popular and stable in its final moments, but I don't think there are enough Angstrom devs to maintain its vision of being available for so many platforms. Sharp and Cacko distros are a bit like PalmOS - useable, stable, easy to get to grips with, but somewhat stagnant. pdaXrom community is vibrant if a little haphazard?

Nokia, at least, provide some support for their products, even if it's simply maintaining a core platform for people to build on (which Sharp had done long ago but abandoned). The Nxx0 platform isn't truly open though, and they seem to be quite happy to abandon the 770 which isn't really that old and shouldn't be too hard to keep some level of support for - though at least they heard the outcry when they first tried to sweep it out of the way!

I do agree with HRW that the Nokia tablets or similar cutting edge linux handhelds are going to gradually kill off the Z platform simply because of its features, the 810 is the first to make a real dent in the Z's useability advantage of having a keyboard. If the 810's successor improves the keyboard, then I think we'll see more Zaurus owners leaving the Zaurus behind, especially if the Z continues to lack a really good modern web browser.

Personally, I use both my Z and 770. When my laptop's X11 driver broke after a kernel update and I needed to ssh in to it, I picked up my Z (running angstrom), its keyboard make fixing reinstalling the nvidia driver a doddle, but without an external keyboard for the 770 it'd have been painful!
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:42 AM
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Just ordered my N810 - its out for sale ftrom Nokia themselves as well as on pre-order from many retailers like Amazon themselves.

Got the best deal from Nokia - they added a $75 discount to make the price at $405 with free shipping too.

The Nokia Sales dept number is 888.665.4228 Option 1, option 2, option 1. Here are the details:
http://tabletblog.com/2007/11/n810-now-available-kinda.html

Quick edit : sorry - just read the thred fully, and also got the follow up call from "Nokia" to verify the adress etc.
Now they say its backordered and will ship on Nov 26th.
Also it seems they are representing Nokia, but its not actually Nokia sales itself. They should have made that clear before itself.

Anyways, still have my order with them - since its cheaper than all else.

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post Nov 17 2007, 10:15 AM
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As they say ... so much to buy, yet so little dime ... tongue.gif

I just saw an ad in my place showing a compaq notebook going for ~USD$414. It's crazy, but still it's a full notebook with DVD burner and all, 14" beast ... oh wait ... ya I know, it's not a mini thingie ... but still ...

Note to self: Must stop buying notebooks just because they are diiiiirt cheap! biggrin.gif
2nd note to self: Must not buy n810 or any other gadget until June 2008!!! ho ho ho ...
3rd note to self: x'mas and new year is not a good reason to get gifts for myself! .... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 17 2007, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(Snappy @ Nov 17 2007, 12:15 PM) *
3rd note to self: x'mas and new year is not a good reason to get gifts for myself! .... biggrin.gif

But is it a good time to con others into getting gifts for you? tongue.gif
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