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post Nov 23 2007, 02:49 AM
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Hey it really seems to b a coooool gadget. My next target is to buy 1 asap for me. Really Nokia Rocks.....
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post Nov 23 2007, 06:43 AM
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I already got mine in hand ... and biy, is it cool indeed .
The finish is very good - brushed metal finish. The keyboard of course doesnt come close to the Zaurus keyboard. Its a but hard also, but functional.

The screen is Wow! As for the real software - its good - functional and neatly arranged. Have been playing all day long since I got it ... Sadly all the N800 software (for OS2007) has still not been ported to OS2008 for Nokia N810 as yet.

But I installed GPE calendar and contacts to get a PIM replacement - as I can't be using both a Zaurus and the 810.
VoiP and Chat works very well, as its is built for that. There are some pretty good tools - a tool to Sync with Google calendar - thats a must for me. Browsing on the 810 itself is absolutely a painless experience (so far).


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post Nov 25 2007, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(nilch @ Nov 23 2007, 10:43 PM) *
I already got mine in hand ... and biy, is it cool indeed .
The finish is very good - brushed metal finish. The keyboard of course doesnt come close to the Zaurus keyboard. Its a but hard also, but functional.

The screen is Wow! As for the real software - its good - functional and neatly arranged. Have been playing all day long since I got it ... Sadly all the N800 software (for OS2007) has still not been ported to OS2008 for Nokia N810 as yet.

But I installed GPE calendar and contacts to get a PIM replacement - as I can't be using both a Zaurus and the 810.
VoiP and Chat works very well, as its is built for that. There are some pretty good tools - a tool to Sync with Google calendar - thats a must for me. Browsing on the 810 itself is absolutely a painless experience (so far).


GPE Calendar and contacts is nice! smile.gif
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post Nov 25 2007, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(nilch @ Nov 23 2007, 05:43 AM) *
The screen is Wow! As for the real software - its good - functional and neatly arranged. Have been playing all day long since I got it ... Sadly all the N800 software (for OS2007) has still not been ported to OS2008 for Nokia N810 as yet.

The software is something that worries me--not what comes packaged, but Nokia's apparent tendency to abandon old platforms. everything they've released is really nice when released and orphaned a year or so later, as far as I can see. Possibly I haven't been paying enough attention
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post Nov 25 2007, 04:15 PM
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True - from what I have been catching up on on the Nokia Tablet forums - it seems the there were a lot of API changes in the new OS2008 (os for N810 that also works for N800) which broke a lot of the apps that were there for N800 on the older OS.

The N700 got dumped - development wise, so yes that is indeed a valid complaint toward Nokia. Again as per Nokia developers (and this is a good thing with Nokia unlike Sharp - ther devs hang around and answer on forums), the enhanced API while breaking some functionality, does add a lot more value - but again I dont know enough about it..

Now with the N810 - I am still waiting for Skype on the new OS (it works fine on N800 on OS2007 supposedly).
Also there is no VNC, mplayer (works with workarounds), stable python (pymaemo), and Python based apps (like UKMP) etc still working out of the box on the N810.

Agin the new OS is faster (so they say) and also widgets can be drigged around on the screen (really smooth), there is kinetic scrolling (like iPhone) on various OS2008 apps (like Mauku (Jailu client), Kagumusic player etc). The Kinetic scrolling is pretty nice and smooth too :-)
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post Nov 25 2007, 06:21 PM
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When my C1000 breaks and dies from my obsessive fiddling ... I will look into buying a N810 (or what ever is out by then). Until then with good care, wise accessory purchases and patients the Z will do for me smile.gif Love the clamshell.
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post Nov 26 2007, 06:29 AM
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the n770 is still partly supported, at least with critical stuff, and although the official release is v2006, there's a hackers edition 2007 which is basically the 770 kernel with additions and as much of the v2007 edition libraries and packages for N800 as possible, so it's fairly up to date. I imagine there will be an n770 hackers edition which runs 2008 at some point.
of course, the 770 being a bit memory limited with slower CPU will struggle a bit with larger base system, but it means its still useful.
and there's still a fairly big software library for it.

however, after saying all of the above, I think that Nokia have not played nicely in relegating the 770 to the back burner, since provided they write their s/w to the appropriate standards, and the 770 has many common attributes with 800 and 810, then surely all they have to do is build a kernel for the 770 (ok, maybe they'd have to update a few driver modules) and all the user space stuff should be identical?
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post Nov 27 2007, 09:14 AM
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Well, I ran into a stumbling block with the N810... couldn't import the Zaurus exported KoPi and Kapi contacts and Calendar files and import it back in GPE Calendar and GPE contacts on the N810. DAMN !

Now, me thinks I have to stick with the Zaurus some more time .. in fact just put in back on charge ... :-)

But on the other hand the N810 works fantastic as a connecction device (auto connmects to my home Wifi while at home, or else autoconnects to my GRPS over phone via bluetooth. Voip is pretty good - I used Gtalk and Gizmo.
Even found my shared drives (without needing any tweaking) and I can wirelessly transfer files to/from my desktop.
Overall the software feels much more finished for the end-user unlike the Zaurus which could (and still can) do more potentially, but required much more tweaking and modifiying conf files here and there.

Actually now that I dont use the GPS much on the N810 and the keyborad is nowhere near the Zaurus - I feel maybe I could downgrade to the N800 (whch runs the same software now) and save myself around $200 bucks.
Ha - decisions and decisions ...
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post Nov 30 2007, 10:00 AM
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Nilch said: Well, I ran into a stumbling block with the N810... couldn't import the Zaurus exported KoPi and Kapi contacts and Calendar files and import it back in GPE Calendar and GPE contacts on the N810. DAMN !

Try the openhand pimlico apps. The contact and calendar apps both have import functions (on pdaxii3 as well as the nokia). They also use the evolution database format. On pdaxii3, I tried importing a kopi calendar file in the pimilco calendar. It imported fine, but the timezone was off.

The pimlico contact app seems okay. I really don't like the pimlico calendar app.

For an alternative calendar app on the nokia, you could try Gene Cash's python calendar app, which so far seems to work. URL is here: http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/index.html

-mars
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post Dec 3 2007, 01:11 PM
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I realize I'm pure evil for posting this, but dell is selling the N800 for 75$ off for the next couple days.
*sigh*
a search of nokia n800 should pull it up.
...or just go here: dell.com smile.gif
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post Dec 3 2007, 01:21 PM
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Uhm... where's that deal? Any links?
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post Dec 3 2007, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(zmiq2 @ Dec 3 2007, 03:21 PM) *
Uhm... where's that deal? Any links?

Added link to my post, see above
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post Dec 3 2007, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Antikx @ Dec 3 2007, 04:11 PM) *
I realize I'm pure evil for posting this, but dell is selling the N800 for 75$ off for the next couple days.


Woah, for a moment I read that as Dell is selling it for $75 and I instaltly jumped up and went to the site looking up for a $75 N800. Alas, that was not to be - its for $199 after a $75 off.
Actually many retailers (Buy.com) also had it for $199 for quite sime time (and for Black Friday).

I can't justify another N800 to wifey, after the N810 - but could have if it was for $75 tongue.gif - with enough love to go with it biggrin.gif
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post Dec 3 2007, 02:23 PM
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Thanks MARS ...

I ultimately got it to import the Vcards from the Zaurus. Seems like one entry was the culprit with some invalid field value ... the rest of them imported fine after some experimentation - with both Contacts and Calendar.

But sadly the PIM on Nokia is no match with KoPi and Kapi.
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post Dec 3 2007, 02:28 PM
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I just came across this
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/software-development/

QT for the OS2008 (the OS for N810 and N800 devices).
The home page doesnt still show anything for the project as yet ... if true this is too good to be true ..
Does this imply that all Zaurus apps (or most) can be ported to the N810 also ?

That would be great - to have the best of both worlds - QT and Hildon GTK apps on the same device. Dont know about performance though.

Still tweaking ny new N810 to perfection - but I giess I will have to give this a try to install at least.
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