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zedkatuf2
post Jun 20 2006, 09:38 PM
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Hi all

I've just ordered my 3200 at long last (have sold my collie to help fund!), and am trying to decide on which ROM to use.

If you have a c1000/3x00, could you post here what ROM you're using & why, plus some comments on the ROM's strengths & weaknesses?

In the ideal world, I'd love to be able to boot several different ROM's, and I've seen elsewhere on oesf that someone's working on this. In the meantime, I'm gonna have to make a decision which to go for. smile.gif
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post Jun 21 2006, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Jun 21 2006, 12:38 AM)
Hi all

I've just ordered my 3200 at long last (have sold my collie to help fund!), and am trying to decide on which ROM to use.

If you have a c1000/3x00, could you post here what ROM you're using & why, plus some comments on the ROM's strengths & weaknesses?

In the ideal world, I'd love to be able to boot several different ROM's, and I've seen elsewhere on oesf that someone's working on this.  In the meantime, I'm gonna have to make a decision which to go for.  smile.gif
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I'm using Cacko on my C1000. I chose it for:
- the full english translation (compared to most of the other SharpROMs)
- plug and play support for my wireless LAN CF card (Socket Spectrum24)
- small ROM footprint (it is only using 32MB of my 128MB flash - not important on a 3200)
- has the latest stable build of ScummVM (0.8.2) ported to it (OZ and pdaXrom only seem to have older versions ported)
- TextMaker, TreeExplorer + and the original Shanghai available for it
- well functioning suspend and resume (it has not failed me)


Here are some of the weaknesses I found:

- HancomWord is stuck at the way too small 100% zoom level and I can't seem to find out how to change it. SharpROM does not have this problem
- Kino2/Mplayer is not as fast on video playback compared to my old and slower Palm running the same files under TCPMP. My battle scenes are jerky in the Clone Wars Vol.1 tongue.gif
- Not enough volume options. I want alarms loud and everything else quiet. Is that too much to ask for? blink.gif
- If I loose my wireless connection I have to unplug and replug my CF card to be able to reconnect
- From what I have been told Cacko is way overdue for a service pack to fix some of these issues.
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post Jun 22 2006, 12:30 AM
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Another n00b here :>

I would like to thank you all for the information provided, i just got my new c3200 from pricejapan, fast shippin' *Thanks PriceJapan*

June 19, 2006 16:48 Tokyo - Japan Shipment picked up
June 19, 2006 18:56 Tokyo - Japan Departed from DHL facility in Tokyo - Japan
June 19, 2006 20:47 Tokyo - Japan Departed from DHL facility in Tokyo - Japan
June 20, 2006 00:55 Hong Kong Hub Arrived at DHL facility in Hong Kong Hub
June 20, 2006 01:24 Hong Kong Hub Clearance processing complete
June 20, 2006 02:43 Hong Kong Hub Departed from DHL facility
June 20, 2006 07:50 Singapore Hub Arrived at DHL facility
June 20, 2006 20:01 Singapore Hub Departed from DHL facility
June 21, 2006 07:41 Brisbane Arrived at DHL facility in Brisbane
June 21, 2006 07:51 Brisbane Arrived at DHL facility in Brisbane
June 21, 2006 07:51 Brisbane Clearance processing complete
June 21, 2006 11:44 Brisbane With delivery courier
June 21, 2006 12:57 Brisbane Shipment delivered

to zaurus i'm totally new this is my first one, for linux not so new i use gentoo in both laptops i have!

i flashed zaurus with pdaxrom beta4, really nice i like it but as a gentoo user i wont satisfied without optimization and testing. so I looked around for information about optimized stuff under openbsd, *imasmith* doing great job smile.gif but still looking forward to see complete guide for c3200.

I flash it again with cacko rom just to have a look, it’s pretty cool, but i think openbsd will be my last station

So what do you guys prefer when it comes to development stuff that runs smoothly on c3200?

Any tips and hints dedicated to c3200?
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zedkatuf2
post Jun 22 2006, 05:38 AM
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QUOTE(hus @ Jun 22 2006, 09:30 AM)
So what do you guys prefer when it comes to development stuff that runs smoothly on c3200?

Any tips and hints dedicated to c3200?
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Hi hus - I'm oscillating between OpenZaurus and Cacko at the moment, or even possibly pdxarom smile.gif

My feeling about it at the moment, though, is that there is a "critical mass" happening for OpenZaurus, and the new 3.5.4.1 release which will be officially out by the end of the week looks very promising, so I think I'll probably go for OZ, albeit the hentges 'distro' gpe version, as it comes pre-rolled with abiword, gnumeric xine & much more besides. I'm just waiting to get my 3200 (also from Japan!), so hopefully this will coincide with CoreDump's production of a spitz image for the 3.5.4.1-hentges distro.

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post Jun 22 2006, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Jun 22 2006, 11:38 PM)
Hi hus - I'm oscillating between OpenZaurus and Cacko at the moment, or even possibly pdxarom smile.gif

hello zedkatuf

well i'm in the same situation now, thanks for sharing this information, to be honest all i'm looking for is to get the beast out of this device to use it as network administration and penetration test tool, not into other stuff, basically optimized kernel for speed and good network support, that's why i start twisting this device since the first minute i put my hands on it smile.gif

i have installed OpenBSD, really really nice so far (the problem i'm new to BSD)

i'll flash the new OZ hentges to c3200 as soon as its out ( with hope to be my last station) smile.gif
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post Jun 22 2006, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(hus @ Jun 23 2006, 03:29 AM)
QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Jun 22 2006, 11:38 PM)
Hi hus - I'm oscillating between OpenZaurus and Cacko at the moment, or even possibly pdxarom smile.gif

hello zedkatuf

well i'm in the same situation now, thanks for sharing this information, to be honest all i'm looking for is to get the beast out of this device to use it as network administration and penetration test tool,
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Hi hus - if you wan to do network admin & penetration test stuff, I think OZ will be a very good choice.
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post Jun 22 2006, 08:54 PM
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zedkatuf

You just saved my day, thanks for this advice, will go OZ today
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post Jun 22 2006, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(hus @ Jun 23 2006, 05:54 AM)
zedkatuf

You just saved my day, thanks for this advice, will go OZ today
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OK, np, but not so fast - I don't think the official 3.5.4.1 mirror is up atm sad.gif - BUT CoreDump is preparing a release for the 3200 which should be ready in the next few days, if you can hang on.

The main plus IMO abt the hentges releases is that they come with more 'goodies' than the standard opie/gpe snapshots of OZ; usually things like wellenreiter, for wireless network sniffing, are included by default, for example.

Also, the 3.5.4.1 feed aint quite ready yet, but I *think* hrw might've said that it's ok to use the 3.5.4 feed in the meantime, and if you have wireless or usbnet access, you're 3200 will be automatically configured to grab stuff from the hentges feed.

To grab the spitz stuff from hentges, go here:

http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/

It's not all there yet, but soon should be by the looks of things smile.gif

Once it's all there, it'll be in:
http://oz.hentges.net/releases/3.5.4.1/T1/
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post Jun 23 2006, 02:00 AM
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zedkatuf, thanks for enlightin' me about OZ

i have installed the RC ver (GPE) just to test from http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/

it's orginized smooth and nice ( works ) clean ...etc
i like it but it's slow i felt like i'm using diffrent device compared to cacko and pdaxrom, i think because its run from the microHD, also its like a waste to not use the flash ram :/

so far OpenBSD feels right to me, going to test it for a week to make final decision besides working out the Wireless Card (the Planex GW-CF11X to work on OBSD)

i'll see how to have Both OZ and BSD on c3200, will be nice mix smile.gif

thanks again and wish you great time with your new zurii ( don't forget to share your experince with it ) wink.gif
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post Jun 23 2006, 02:51 AM
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Hi,

>- If I loose my wireless connection I have to unplug and replug my CF card to be able >to reconnect

in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts

Change CARDSUSPEND=y to CARDSUSPEND=n

This should sovle the problem for you. It did for me.

Cheers,

Alistair James
SL-C3100 + Cacko 1.23
Ambicomm Wl1100C-CF
1Gb SD Card
Socket Bluetooth CF
Amacom FlipDisk 20GB USB drive
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post Jun 23 2006, 03:19 AM
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QUOTE(hus @ Jun 23 2006, 11:00 AM)
it's orginized smooth and nice ( works ) clean ...etc
i like it but it's slow i felt like i'm using diffrent device compared to cacko and pdaxrom, i think because its run from the microHD, also its like a waste to not use the flash ram :/


..ahh, that's interesting; I wonder if anyone's hacked the installer to place everything in flash, as it's a shame not to take advantage of the 128mbytes that's available.....
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post Jun 25 2006, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Jun 23 2006, 09:19 PM)
..ahh, that's interesting; I wonder if anyone's hacked the installer to place everything in flash, as it's a shame not to take advantage of the 128mbytes that's available.....


well, this will be a project if you intersted smile.gif

Good day first smile.gif, it's been a while now playing with all roms i have put my hands on (did u get ur new zaurus?)

so far here is my first impression

OZ hentges Spitz ver:
As I said before clean tidy all together good on c3200

Original Sharp:
Speak some Japanese or your girlfriend Japanese? Want to keep original stuff as it is? When you read flashing process guide you fell you want extra hand to bush a button or connect the AC?,,,,, Then stick to it and read zbook3k

Cacko 1.23:
You can say tweaked original version in English smile.gif if you after PDA functionality as sharps tend to sell

Pdaxrom beta4:
To be honest FAST!! good if you want optimized version and faster than other roms mentioned above, you will have a bundle (jumbo box) of all your needs of cross environment developing liveCD.

OpenBSD
This is it! I just cant describe my feeling,,,, man this is the one,,, if you wellin’ to mess things with big smile on your face this is it.
It needs extra time (compilation) but don’t forget how is the feeling after that when things works. The good thing here you build your own system and you optimize it the way you want, the choice is yours (it’s like taking one of Morpheus pills and zaurus the Nebuchadnezzar)

Anyway, the question now, what is the efficient way to partition the c3200 microHD for linux? I mean if you get pdaxrom on it what the good HD partition schem strategy?

Mounting partition under /home and another one under /usr?

It seems to me you can partition the HD up to 4 partitions only, means one swap and 2 linux or 1 linux and 1 FAT the 4th will be BSD, and wondering how going to mount the linux partitions with pdaxrom, under /home better or as described /mnt/ide

if i get my wireless card running under openBSD im thinking to have pdaxrom and openBSD together (because pdaxrom use the flash ram which i don't want to waste).
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post Jun 25 2006, 07:14 AM
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standard disk partitioning rules apply. read any dos/windows/linux/unix manual and it will give you suggestions.

all disk can only have 4 primary partitions, which includes extended partitions. you can have as many partitions inside extended partitions as you like.
since the zaurus is essentially a linux system, linux partitioning recommendations apply. there are currently two camps, one that promotes one are two partitions only, and one that promotes many partitions for various things which may or may not apply to the zaurus.

typical partitions might want to consider would be:

/ (root)
/usr (for application binaries)
/home (for user specific data and config, stuff that needs frequent backing up)
/data (for storing large data files such as movies ad music and possibly for sharing via usb)
/tmp (for additional tmp space to open larger files)
/swap (or use a swapfile)
/boot (if you want to kexec or pivot boot)
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post Jun 25 2006, 08:33 AM
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Hi Meanie

thank you for this information and thank you again and again for the great book (zbook)

i would love to keep it simple using only the primary partitions, the flash taking the / the rest 2 partitiions will be /usr and /home besides swap and OpenBSD partition. so enough space for applications and personal data:

/ Flash RAM (128MB)

/home Partition1 (1024MB) (T.83)
/usr Partition2 (1024MB) (T.83)
Swap Linux Swap (192MB) (T.82)
theRest OpenBSD (T.A6)

with this will makes me happy with 6gb on c3200
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post Jun 26 2006, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(hus @ Jun 25 2006, 03:17 PM)
QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Jun 23 2006, 09:19 PM)
..ahh, that's interesting; I wonder if anyone's hacked the installer to place everything in flash, as it's a shame not to take advantage of the 128mbytes that's available.....


well, this will be a project if you intersted smile.gif

Good day first smile.gif, it's been a while now playing with all roms i have put my hands on (did u get ur new zaurus?)

so far here is my first impression

OZ hentges Spitz ver:
As I said before clean tidy all together good on c3200

Original Sharp:
Speak some Japanese or your girlfriend Japanese? Want to keep original stuff as it is? When you read flashing process guide you fell you want extra hand to bush a button or connect the AC?,,,,, Then stick to it and read zbook3k

Cacko 1.23:
You can say tweaked original version in English smile.gif if you after PDA functionality as sharps tend to sell

Pdaxrom beta4:
To be honest FAST!! good if you want optimized version and faster than other roms mentioned above, you will have a bundle (jumbo box) of all your needs of cross environment developing liveCD.

OpenBSD
This is it! I just cant describe my feeling,,,, man this is the one,,, if you wellin’ to mess things with big smile on your face this is it.
It needs extra time (compilation) but don’t forget how is the feeling after that when things works. The good thing here you build your own system and you optimize it the way you want, the choice is yours (it’s like taking one of Morpheus pills and zaurus the Nebuchadnezzar)

Anyway, the question now, what is the efficient way to partition the c3200 microHD for linux? I mean if you get pdaxrom on it what the good HD partition schem strategy?

Mounting partition under /home and another one under /usr?

It seems to me you can partition the HD up to 4 partitions only, means one swap and 2 linux or 1 linux and 1 FAT the 4th will be BSD, and wondering how going to mount the linux partitions with pdaxrom, under /home better or as described /mnt/ide

if i get my wireless card running under openBSD im thinking to have pdaxrom and openBSD together (because pdaxrom use the flash ram which i don't want to waste).
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Hi hus - thanks for the excellent detail - very useful! I wonder if it's possible to dual boot pdxarom & OZ using the altboot....probably not, IIRC, as they use different kernels....ah well, maybe one day smile.gif
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