Cacko 1.24 - A Wishlist, ... realistic requests only please! Options

[speculatrix]

integrating qt4/qtopia4 might be worthwhile IF you could be sure that you could, say, replace most of the standard apps with new qt4 ones, and yet have sufficient compatibility to still run the original Sharp apps. If you lose sharp compat, you might as well simply install angstrom with qt4 or opie2!

I agree that replacing as many of the kernel modules as possible with ones backported from later 2.4 kernels if possible, but that would be a lot of work; I think Anton did that when he build cacko1.23. And of course updating all the misc patches like ssh, busybox etc would be important - remembering that it all has to be gcc2.95.x compatible for the kernel and glibs!

So, actually, how many Sharp apps are actually worth keeping? Is it simply that cacko is a well-rounded system with working control panels for network, bluetooth, speed, overclocking, dialup, etc? How far off that is pdaXrom, Angstrom, Debian or Poky and would it be more worthwhile to make these work?

[speculatrix]

the possibility to use 6Gb of hard disk of c3200 to install applications and programs and not only 30Mb
The injection hostap driver for the latest aircrack-ng

erm, you can run programs off the hard drive - just change your path. if you want it seamless, pick a whole directory e.g. qtopia, move to hdd partition and add a symlink!

for best results, repartition the hdd giving yourself a nice bit ext2 partition so you have proper linux access control, and add a swap partition too?

[HoloVector]

integrating qt4/qtopia4 might be worthwhile IF you could be sure that you could, say, replace most of the standard apps with new qt4 ones, and yet have sufficient compatibility to still run the original Sharp apps. If you lose sharp compat, you might as well simply install angstrom with qt4 or opie2!

I agree that replacing as many of the kernel modules as possible with ones backported from later 2.4 kernels if possible, but that would be a lot of work; I think Anton did that when he build cacko1.23. And of course updating all the misc patches like ssh, busybox etc would be important - remembering that it all has to be gcc2.95.x compatible for the kernel and glibs!

So, actually, how many Sharp apps are actually worth keeping? Is it simply that cacko is a well-rounded system with working control panels for network, bluetooth, speed, overclocking, dialup, etc? How far off that is pdaXrom, Angstrom, Debian or Poky and would it be more worthwhile to make these work?

For me the apps to keep are the hancom office apps, the sharp calendar if that is the only way to have a lightweight calendar which wakes up the Z and alarms consistently which kopi never did for me, netfront, opera 7.55, textmaker, tkc apps (zip, backup, FTP, mahjongg, lines, blocks, panels), and tree!explorer+. But that's just me.

If Maslovsky can integrate as well as he did under 1.23 then it would worth it. The only ROM/distro on my Zaurus that came anywhere near the functionality and usability in Cacko was pdaxii13 and even that wasn't as good as Cacko out of the box. I just don't have time anymore to mess around. I just need something that works with minimal fuss!

[matthis]

japanese handwriting recognition is worth keeping. Actually its the thing preventing me to move to other roms

[craigtyson]

japanese handwriting recognition is worth keeping. Actually its the thing preventing me to move to other roms

Pretty much the same. Hancom, Opera, Kino and usable chinese input. Those are what have kept me from using Opie in the past And will probably stop me going to Angstrom in the future.

As far as an update goes if we are talking about a 1.24 revision then there shouldnt be too many changes

Wouldn't qt4 be more a 1.3 or a v2.0 release ? wasnt there a qt4/ SHARP ROM hack a while ago?

C

[zeroc87]

the possibility to use 6Gb of hard disk of c3200 to install applications and programs and not only 30Mb
The injection hostap driver for the latest aircrack-ng

erm, you can run programs off the hard drive - just change your path. if you want it seamless, pick a whole directory e.g. qtopia, move to hdd partition and add a symlink!

for best results, repartition the hdd giving yourself a nice bit ext2 partition so you have proper linux access control, and add a swap partition too?

I tried so but I never did it successfully

[ernestus]

integrating qt4/qtopia4 might be worthwhile IF you could be sure that you could, say, replace most of the standard apps with new qt4 ones, and yet have sufficient compatibility to still run the original Sharp apps. If you lose sharp compat, you might as well simply install angstrom with qt4 or opie2!

I agree that replacing as many of the kernel modules as possible with ones backported from later 2.4 kernels if possible, but that would be a lot of work; I think Anton did that when he build cacko1.23. And of course updating all the misc patches like ssh, busybox etc would be important - remembering that it all has to be gcc2.95.x compatible for the kernel and glibs!

So, actually, how many Sharp apps are actually worth keeping? Is it simply that cacko is a well-rounded system with working control panels for network, bluetooth, speed, overclocking, dialup, etc? How far off that is pdaXrom, Angstrom, Debian or Poky and would it be more worthwhile to make these work?

Hi all
It's possible to create a new set of libraries related to a new version of gcc (necessary for compiling qt4) in parallel with the original cacko ones, an analogy is how the different linux distros are dealing with the AMD64 architecture, they have a /lib64 directory for the new 64 bits libraries and a /lib for the old 32 bit ones.

[ZDevil]

It seems quite a few programs for Sharp ROM are still under active development in the Japanese communities,
such as
Ebt/EBt-lit: http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/tokada/SL-C...t_index_en.html
Ruby on Rails: http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~ruby-gaia/Ruby...2000_tab03.html
NeoCal: http://bxk07344.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2008-02-20

There are some really nice programs which may have been overlooked by non-Japanese users. The best example is this: http://homepage2.nifty.com/ishihata/yoteihyouforsl-cxxx.htm
This calendar program fares much better than the stock PIMs and is less blaoted than KO/Pi+KA/Pi. It would be great if it is translated into English (contact the developer?).

A look at these Japanese sites will give you some ideas of what's going on with the Zaurus in Japan, even without knowing Japanese: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yamadaatmn/searchdia...%2a%5bZaurus%5d
http://www.nurs.or.jp/~tanapan/toybox/index.html

Remeber this page has some very nice programs. Some are still being maintained and updated, even Emacs cvs 23.0.50!
http://www.focv.com/ipkg/

Of course Meanie's packages are essential addons! http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/

Personally, I think an updated fsck tool is also very important (the stock one is just like a dinosaur), which is very useful as a rescue/repair tool of other systems.

One alternative to update softwares in Sharp/Cacko is to convert from Debian ARM packages, as long as the dependencies (esp. libraries) are met.