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wsuetholz
post Jul 28 2006, 05:26 PM
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Last time I ran evolution it was a dog, and very buggy. I have found thunderbird to be very responsive and fairly stable, it's also nice to have the exact same email and browser on windows and linux, since I switch back and forth alot. Evolution doesn't run on windows afaik. OTOH, evolution is highly integrated with a PIM as well.

regarding the backend mail daemons, I haven't done much with sendmail recently, I'm currently using exim for my mailservers..

Do you really think that the MTA needs to be customized, or just the rewriting rules?

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post Jul 28 2006, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(wsuetholz @ Jul 29 2006, 01:26 AM)
Last time I ran evolution it was a dog, and very buggy.  I have found thunderbird to be very responsive and fairly stable, it's also nice to have the exact same email and browser on windows and linux, since I switch back and forth alot.  Evolution doesn't run on windows afaik. OTOH, evolution is highly integrated with a PIM as well.

regarding the backend mail daemons, I haven't done much with sendmail recently, I'm currently using exim for my mailservers.. 

Do you really think that the MTA needs to be customized, or just the rewriting rules?

Bill
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Right, hadn't used it in a while, forgot the pim thing. I was mostly interested in the ability to work with novell groupwise. One can always use a web browser, though.
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post Jul 29 2006, 12:02 AM
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Like I said: "Look into eds-dbus before reinventing the wheel", so please try actually looking into it. All your comments above cite problems that eds-dbus has solved. In case you didn't know: eds-dbus is being used on the nokia 770 as the contacts (and soon mail) *back*end. You can have a thin gui layer on top of that (tinymail, modest, dates, contacts).
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post Jul 29 2006, 04:39 AM
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Link me! WHOO!

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Is there a current Zaurus port?
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post Jul 29 2006, 04:59 AM
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QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Jul 29 2006, 12:39 PM)
Link me! WHOO!


http://projects.o-hand.com/

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Is there a current Zaurus port?
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I don't know what you mean with a 'zaurus port', but it is present in OpenEmbedded.
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Ferret-Simpson
post Jul 29 2006, 05:22 AM
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Yeah, OpenEmbedded counts.

Hmmm, that does look pretty useful. And of course, it's designed to go with it's own PIM and Mail suite. . .

Only thing we'd need to consider then is interaction with the Phone systems. I don't think that would be a big challenge. Our most important coding project then looks to be the Phone Daemon, and companion frontend software.

We'll need to sort out Ringtones as well.

MP3, OGG, WAV, MIDI

Any other formats people would like?
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post Jul 29 2006, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Jul 29 2006, 01:22 PM)
We'll need to sort out Ringtones as well.

MP3, OGG, WAV, MIDI

Any other formats people would like?
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Just hook it into gstreamer and you can use any format you'd like, and the plugin tree is a no-brainer with playbin and spider
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Ferret-Simpson
post Jul 29 2006, 05:53 AM
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Sweet.

Hol, do you think you could handle porting the Jack Daemon to ARM?

Blitz isn't sure but I think it's a good way to handle Audio Routing on the PPZ. . .

I can paypal you the price of a pint?
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post Jul 29 2006, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Jul 29 2006, 01:53 PM)
Hol, do you think you could handle porting the Jack Daemon to ARM?
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Is jackd really necessary? when making phonecalls you don't need low-latency since the latency produced by the phone system and physical distance will be much larger than the latency produced by alsa.
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post Jul 29 2006, 05:59 AM
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Aye, it's just really easy to rerouute data on the fly with it.
Also, since the Sound chip we're using is likely to be quite good, and we're also likely to have SPDIF, I and at least 2 others have mentioned using it for recording purposes.

For UNIX music studio work, it doesn't come much better that Jack as a backend. I use it on my Recording PC. . .
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Ferret-Simpson
post Jul 29 2006, 06:01 AM
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Also, can I make a software note of XINE? It's my favourite X-based video program. Either that or a good frontend for mplayer. . ? (Is XINE an mplayer F/E?)
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post Jul 29 2006, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Jul 29 2006, 02:01 PM)
Also, can I make a software note of XINE? It's my favourite X-based video program. Either that or a good frontend for mplayer. . ? (Is XINE an mplayer F/E?)
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I'd rather use gstreamer, since nokia is paying those dudes to optimize it for ARM smile.gif
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post Jul 29 2006, 06:46 AM
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But will it have optimisations for our Hardware Codecs?
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post Jul 29 2006, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Jul 29 2006, 02:46 PM)
But will it have optimisations for our Hardware Codecs?
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You can code them. And if you are serious about power consumption have a look at ASoC: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/info.html
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post Jul 29 2006, 07:31 AM
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Hmmm. . . When the iMX is supported, then that looks like a useful addition. . .

more things. . .?

CF drivers for our 54G wireless chip. Currently, only USB drivers are available. How will the accelerometer and Scroll wheel interface with say. . . SDL?

We're also going to have to come up with some modifications to the videoforlinux stuff. . . I think we shoud already have drivers for the camera, but how we link it to the Videophone, Camera Application (Is there one for GPE?) and to our Video-over-IP. On which note. . . aMSN port?
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