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Nov 27 2007, 02:56 AM
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I've been away from all things pdaX for ages now, all the lack of direction, progress and bickering got tedious, anyway ancient history.
However, I'm giving my Z one last hurrah while I stump up the money for a clamshell UMPC. I've a C1000 and these are my wants, needs: basic pda stuff Word processor - openoffice would be awesome, but that never seems to be available for the Z outside of Meanie's great add on to Cacko which I currently use. Spreadsheet - openoffice again would be awesome. (Anyone know what happened to the lightweight openoffice they were developing once upon a time for pda and low power pcs?) I'd really like to run apache, mysql and php. A decent editor to code with. Now my linux skills are still very basic, my brain isn't one that copes well with faffing. What would be the best version/set up for me? Thanks |
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Nov 27 2007, 08:46 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 5-December 04 From: Paris, France Member No.: 5,776 |
I suggest you try pdaxii13 v2(alpha5) so that you can run a lot more packages(those for rc10, rc12, beta1, beta3, r121, r198 for example).
Install is easy : install "pdaXii13 Akita build 5.4.9 base" and upgrade to pdaxii13v2 by installing pdaxiiv2-upgrade. See Meanie's web site Everything works out of the box. I don't think there exists an openoffice package for pdax. Good alternatives are Abiword and Gnumeric. For pda use, you have Kdepim-pi like on Cacko(Kopi, Kapi, OM-pi, pwm-pi), the Pimlico suite (dates, contacts, tasks), the gpe suite, each of them are also available for x86 desktops. Apache, mysql, php : I don't know but I guess yes. Code Editor: SciTe, geany, vim, emacs, may be others Check out the Useful applications thread and the huge New Packages Annuncement thread |
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Nov 27 2007, 11:42 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
I'll test openoffice in pocketworkstation on pdax113v2 tonight.
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Nov 27 2007, 01:04 PM
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Had a little try, are there still issues with the on/off and suspend/resume?
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Nov 27 2007, 01:05 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
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Nov 27 2007, 01:07 PM
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I don't think so.
I would suggest staying away from OOo. Abiword and Gnumeric are on the cusp of being usable as is, and they're not heavy like OOo is. |
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Nov 27 2007, 01:12 PM
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Had a little try, are there still issues with the on/off and suspend/resume? not that I've noticed doesn't seem to suspend when I close the lid and the on/off still has a huge delay. And a lot of the time when I press the on button the display pops up for a second and is gone again. And changing the time crashed it totally. Sorry these are probably very silly issues. lol |
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Nov 27 2007, 01:39 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
Had a little try, are there still issues with the on/off and suspend/resume? not that I've noticed doesn't seem to suspend when I close the lid and the on/off still has a huge delay. And a lot of the time when I press the on button the display pops up for a second and is gone again. And changing the time crashed it totally. Sorry these are probably very silly issues. lol Ah-- you should suspend before closing the lid. I'm so used to it I'd forgotten. also press and hold a little, maybe? load and rebbot if you are having those issues--they will go away I think. BTW suspend is a little slower than on cacko- you have to wait a few secs to be sure you are suspended--that is, I bet< where your issues are coming from Dl'in OO on my cell connection atm |
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Nov 27 2007, 05:11 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 5-December 04 From: Paris, France Member No.: 5,776 |
Yes, there are still hic ups with suspend/resume(2.4 kernel related apparently)
Suspend is slow, you need to press and hold for about 2 seconds the ON/OFF button, it's bearable. I never use suspend from the menu, I feel it's buggier, and always suspend while lid open. Then you need to wait at least 10 seconds before resuming again otherwise it pops up for a second and then goes away. In this situation, you need then 2 other tries before it stays on. Resume is slow, you need to press and hold for about 2 seconds the ON/OFF button. Fingers crossed, it always works for me. May be because I first open the lid to be in the same state as I was when I suspended and then resume by pressing ON/OFF button while lid opened, I don't use a screensaver either and I eject my wifi card before suspending. I never have issues when changing the time using the Date&Time setting app either, screen goes black after 2 seconds until I tap on it, that's it. You can use the command line to change the date and time it's something like CODE date -s "28 NOV 2007 02:06:00" If you do this, screen stays on and you don't need to tap on it, it needs 1 second to update the time in the panel. |
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Nov 27 2007, 05:58 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 1-October 07 From: Blacksburg, SC, USA Member No.: 20,773 |
PdaXii13 does not like waking up from the on button I found during my use, it wakes up by pressing the home button.
Screen close suspend never seemed to work properly for me either. Date set crash was something I hadn't encountered. PdaXrom 198 +SP8 is much better on the suspend and resume, lid closing in matchbox does suspend the unit. Its a tab bit harder to setup, but just as useful as pdaxii13 too me. I presently use Debian, which suspends wonderfully and resumes nicely ... programs vary just like with the other options. |
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Nov 28 2007, 01:30 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 11-November 07 Member No.: 20,935 |
PdaXii13 does not like waking up from the on button I found during my use, it wakes up by pressing the home button. Screen close suspend never seemed to work properly for me either. Date set crash was something I hadn't encountered. PdaXrom 198 +SP8 is much better on the suspend and resume, lid closing in matchbox does suspend the unit. Its a tab bit harder to setup, but just as useful as pdaxii13 too me. I presently use Debian, which suspends wonderfully and resumes nicely ... programs vary just like with the other options. I like pdaxII13v2 verry much. It is stable but very slow on my c1000. Maybe I want to try debian on my device. But It is stable ? Is it also slow on a C1000 ? Is it easy to install on a SD with dualboot ? Thx for the reply |
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Nov 29 2007, 05:13 AM
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I went back to my cacko nand image, pdaX looked good, a really good job has been made to tidy it up and tweak it into submission, well done Meanie and all involved, but ultimately both environments that it has have major drawbacks.
Debian sounds interesting, mainly because it's a fully fledged linux distro, surely that would suggest it's far more up to date than pdaX will ever be? no? I've only got a 1gb SD, would that be enough to give it a whirl? Is there a gnome-lite of kde-lite that runs on the zaurus? I'd really like to have a decent window manager that behaves properly. In an ideal world, for me, Apple would make a Mac book mini almost as small as a Z with Leopard running on it. With Leopard on my Mac I'm spoilt and find lesser OS a trial lol. Another reason why I like gnome, similar cleanliness. |
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Nov 29 2007, 08:14 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 1-October 07 From: Blacksburg, SC, USA Member No.: 20,773 |
2gb or bigger suggested for debian on SD. Following the instructions makes Debian easy to install. An alternative is to use the preconfigured rootfs that ZDevil made. It is mentioned in this post.
I use my Z as a mini-laptop. Debian is stable on my C1K, and runs at about the same speed as PdaXrom 198 ... slightly slower than PdaXii13 (Better power suspend and resume). Thus far only dual boots with Angstrom, Altboot method. U-Boot on the C1K does not dual boot friendly in my experience. |
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Nov 30 2007, 12:10 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
2gb or bigger suggested for debian on SD. Following the instructions makes Debian easy to install. An alternative is to use the preconfigured rootfs that ZDevil made. It is mentioned in this post. I use my Z as a mini-laptop. Debian is stable on my C1K, and runs at about the same speed as PdaXrom 198 ... slightly slower than PdaXii13 (Better power suspend and resume). Thus far only dual boots with Angstrom, Altboot method. U-Boot on the C1K does not dual boot friendly in my experience. I thought it was faster than pdaiiX? |
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Nov 30 2007, 12:43 AM
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