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gene
post Mar 30 2004, 05:22 PM
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I use the standard music player on my C860 but the sound just isnt up to snuff. Although the quality is crisp and clear there is almost no bass. I feel like the treble is at full and the bass is at null. Is there anything i can do about this?
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post Mar 30 2004, 10:57 PM
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Are you talking about with headphones, or without? If you mean the built in speaker, it's a peizo buzzer that isn't good for much more than high pitched sounds (beeps). You can play music through it, but it's pretty horrible.

I find the sound with headphones is very good quality.
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post Mar 31 2004, 01:23 AM
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I second that. Sound over headphones is great provided you have a quality headphone. And this statement comes from a musician ;-)
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post Mar 31 2004, 12:21 PM
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i am talking about the sound quality through the headphones of course. Like i said the sound quality is very good but there is no bass. I like progressive house and i am using excellent deep ear canal sony headphones. With my rio mp3 cd player they sound amazing. So the question is/ is there a way to increase the bass.
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post Mar 31 2004, 12:45 PM
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Hmm, I don't know many details, but I have the follwing: An SL5500 with OZ 3.3.6pre-1, which is compiled with gcc 3.*, which in turn means that applications compiled with gcc 2.9* have to use the compat libraries. I think this only works for executables, but not for libraries (I tried, but I wouldn't make sense to me anyway). Thing is, when I use xmms to listen to music, it has to use the compat libs. My opie-player-2 is compiled with gcc-3.*, so it doesn't have to. Now the point: xmms sound soooo lousy, right out of a can. Opie-player-2 sounds MUCH better (yes, I do have quality headphones from Koss). I think the reason lies somewhere in that compiler-stuff I explained above, because some libraries are needed to play mp3's. Maybe you have the same kind of problem? Maybe you want to try another media player...

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post Mar 31 2004, 12:58 PM
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Guys thanks for all your replies so far/ but again sound is very crisp but the low end sucks. No bass. I need the bass.
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post Mar 31 2004, 04:03 PM
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I would imagine that your RIO MP3 CD player is boosting the lower frequencie if it's the same MP3 track.

What we need is a 'graphic equaliser' function on the Zaurus audio playback apps.
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post Mar 31 2004, 05:59 PM
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I've also noticed the lack of bass from the Zaurus. I've used the same headphones with my C700 and my amp, and the Zaurus has far less bass. The amp has the bass and treble controls set to neutral and the equalizer on Winamp is off. Even a lowly original Tungsten|T has a basic EQ, so it seems like it would be possible on a Z.
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post Mar 31 2004, 08:13 PM
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Yes. That is my point exactly. It is kind of depressing as I was hoping to eliminate the Rio MP3 player from my commute and running around the city, it is big and clunky, I thought the Zaurus would do a good job. It has thus far failed me, and their is no solution is site. Funny, when i tried the Cacko rom, XMMS wouldnt play the sound at all. Hmph, oh well. Anyone have any suggestions for how to port a mixer to boost the bass, is their a console mixer that someone can suggest?
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post Mar 31 2004, 08:59 PM
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I would think that any mixer software is going to work only if the sound hardware in the Z supports it. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that mixing is typically done by the hardware. While it is technically possible to alter sound data in software to shape the sound, I'd expect it would be difficult to do in real-time. What type of sound hardware is in the Z?
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post Mar 31 2004, 10:32 PM
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BlackCardinal,

Actually, personally I was under the impression that mixing is done at the software level, especially doing things such as wave-forming in order to achieve a different acoustic effect, for example in order to multiply the low-end. But I don't know for sure so I may be talking out of my ass.
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post Apr 10 2004, 05:50 PM
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Does anyone know if there is fix to make XMMS play files on OZ 3.3.6 without sounding like you are in a tin can? I'm using the compat libs. Based on what was said earlier in the post, is this something caused by the compat libs? Thanks.

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post Apr 11 2004, 02:34 AM
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Hmm, I don't know many details, but I have the follwing: An SL5500 with OZ 3.3.6pre-1, which is compiled with gcc 3.*, which in turn means that applications compiled with gcc 2.9* have to use the compat libraries. I think this only works for executables, but not for libraries (I tried, but I wouldn't make sense to me anyway). Thing is, when I use xmms to listen to music, it has to use the compat libs. My opie-player-2 is compiled with gcc-3.*, so it doesn't have to. Now the point: xmms sound soooo lousy, right out of a can. Opie-player-2 sounds MUCH better (yes, I do have quality headphones from Koss). I think the reason lies somewhere in that compiler-stuff I explained above, because some libraries are needed to play mp3's. Maybe you have the same kind of problem? Maybe you want to try another media player...


Intersting idea, but I think xmms is just acting as a front end to mplayer. Mplayer is generally just linked to C libs (like libc) so it doesn't require the use of the compat libs (even though it was probably compiled with GCC 2.95.x), so I think your theory may be out the window. However it might be worth trying to use mplayer on it's own and compare the difference with xmms.

That said, you may be right and I might be talking rubbish - perhaps the data is piped though xmms and degraded there ??. The other thing to look at is the version of mplayer (and the libs) you are using. To tell the truth I felt that mplayer (as I can't get xmms running) sounded marginally better than opie-mplayer2, but this was a non-scientific test and also just a gut feeling. I'll do some more listening over the rest of the weekend and decide.


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post Dec 7 2004, 03:46 PM
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A bump and another datapoint...

Running XMMS under a n Xqt/debian environment has the same qualities- good range, nice treble, low bass. And a killer equalizer. That kills the application. Drat.

Anyone?

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post Dec 9 2004, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(BlackCardinal @ Mar 31 2004, 08:59 PM)
I would think that any mixer software is going to work only if the sound hardware in the Z supports it. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that mixing is typically done by the hardware.

No. On PC and machines with decent sound hardware, you can mix channels in hardware, buth the mp3 decoding is only done on hardware on specialized devices (players).
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