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post Feb 8 2006, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(phisch @ Feb 8 2006, 03:41 PM)
Hopefully later.  Hentges has recruited at least some level of beta testers for 3.5.4 and poodle (I was one of them).

My OZ 3.5.4-test program got more then 10 poodle users. There was some feedback but noone found how to fix some bugs which that machine looks to have.
QUOTE(phisch @ Feb 8 2006, 03:41 PM)
Seriously nobody on the OZ team has a poodle?  Anyone have one to donate or want to pitch in to get them one?

Currently noone has poodle in OZ team. We have several collie machines, few c7x0 ones, iirc 2-3 tosa (mostly used for developing 2.6 kernel support), 2 akitas, 2 spitz, there are also few company developers with borzoi machines which can test sometimes our code. I have collie and c760.
QUOTE(phisch @ Feb 8 2006, 03:41 PM)
I love OZ on my poodle, but for the life of me I cannot get my IrDA keyboard to work with it, and I've never met anyone that could.  Perhaps we should donate one of these too?

Irda keyboards.. I do not know do we have developer with one or not. Did you tried irk variants from OZ? I'm curious how irda keyboards works at all ;)
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post Mar 29 2006, 11:23 PM
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What are currently the big problems with OZ on the 5600?
What aspects of the Watapon ROM made it better?

I can take a quick look at the the major issues and port any patches in the Watapon buildroot over to the OE tree, but unfortunately I don't have the time to take it on as a project.
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post May 20 2006, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(TheMasterMind1 @ Mar 30 2006, 03:23 AM)
What are currently the big problems with OZ on the 5600?
What aspects of the Watapon ROM made it better?

I can take a quick look at the the major issues and port any patches in the Watapon buildroot over to the OE tree, but unfortunately I don't have the time to take it on as a project.
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I used OZ 3.5.2 for a long time on my 5600. I was wary of 3.5.3 because of bugs people seemed to be encountering. (I also bricked my Z at one point while reinstalling OZ, but that was my fault. Nonetheless, it made me a bit gun-shy.) I installed OZ 3.5.4 with GPE, which looked absolutely fantastic (in 3.5.2 I was using Opie). However, as in 3.5.2, most of the internal flash was taken up by the ROM, which I didn't like. I wanted more room on the internal, in case I needed it for anything at all. Granted, most of what I was doing was linked on the SD card, but there were times when I wanted more than a few megabytes of memory. GPE seemed to run very slowly, and I was finding various bugs in different apps. Sorry I'm not giving enough specifics here - I'm just trying to give some general impressions.

Watapon was really a breath of fresh air for me. Everything seems to "just work" - I have very few problems with it. And it also takes up a relatively small amount of room on the internal flash - right now the PDA is filled with pretty much every app I need and then some, and I still have 17 mb left. Those are the two main reasons I like Watapon - usability and its small footprint.

For example, I had tremendous problems with Konqueror. Granted, it's amazing to have it working. And I'm a staunch supporter of free software - I run nothing but Linux on my home computers, and find it painful to have any proprietary stuff on them. I think the only thing I have that's nonfree right now is Java, which drives me insane since I'm trying to learn it. At some point I'd like to remove it entirely and just use something like gcj. But the browsing under 3.5.2 was just ridiculously difficult for me. Some pages would load fine. I'd say a third of the time it worked ok. But at other times, either the browser couldn't load a page in a readable way (text would run off the right side of the screen and it's just too annoying to read something by constantly moving the horizontal scrolling bar back and forth), or it would just crash. Even for something seemingly simple, like the documentation from www.python.org, loading from my own SD card, would crash.

On the other hand, Opera can compress most pages to fit in a column, and has far, far fewer crashes - I can probably count on one hand how many times it's crashed.

I like to think of Watapon as the Ubuntu of the Zaurus 5600 world, at least from a usability standpoint. This is not to point fingers as anyone - this has as much to do with me as with anyone else. I could have filled out bug reports, and I could have tried to do more to help with Openzaurus. But I simply don't have enough time. Nothing would make me happier than to have an entirely free Zaurus, but I need to be able to use it as well.

I wish the work on Openzaurus all the best - I think it is probably the most important work being done in the Zaurus software world by far. And I wish development on Watapon hadn't stopped - but the developer didn't have the time either. Hope what I wrote is helpful.
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post May 20 2006, 02:25 PM
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Two Poodles were donated to OZ recently, and
work on a kernel 2.6 port has already begun smile.gif
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post Aug 27 2006, 05:17 PM
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Does anyone have the feed for the watapon rom? Chaos apparently isnt allowing users to access the feed webpage anymore, and I reinstalled the 1.4.1 version.

I like the 1.4.1 version best imho. smile.gif
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post Aug 27 2006, 05:57 PM
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Here is the closest thing to a feed for the Watapon ROM that is still up. Not sure if it current or not.

http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/5600/watapon/feed/

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post May 15 2007, 10:57 PM
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Try here.

Watapon 1.6 and 1.6.1 hosted.
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/77

EDIT:
The uploads are corrupted. I'm going to reupload them for Antikx.

Edit 2:
Reuploaded and verified. The links should be good.
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post Nov 5 2007, 11:58 AM
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Bringing this back up from the dead...
All my Watapon stuff is back online (images, feed, themes, and misc other stuff) @ http://zaurus.nayr.net

I will try to keep it up for as long as is reasonable, if I have forgotten about it again and its unavailable please send me an email dreadlocks _at_ gmail _dot_ com

its been known for a while but I am going ahead and announcing the END OF LIFE for Watapon.. Without any development in the last several years I think it is safe to say there will be no future development into this project.

Best compliment I have gotten in a while, Watapon is the Ubuntu for Zaurus.. that was our goal at the time and it makes me happy to hear it..

Ive had alot of fun on this project and I want to thank everyone, epically Chaos for making this niche rom such a success.. its a testament to the OSS community. I still have my 5600 sitting on the shelf in the closet.. I used it as a usb wifi router for a while before retiring it.. I just didnt have much use for it when I was done with school.. I have moved on, I now work for Jabber and have a plate load of projects that time does not permit for. What I learned working on this has been carried on in many other projects.. from embedded routers and carputers to commercial plug in appliances.

The Zaurus will always be a big part of me, it was a revolutionary device that allowed me to work in extraordinary ways.. This little device made getting my degree a snap, and when I bricked my 5000D in the middle of a semester I realized how much I relied on it for absolutely everything.. I carried no book bag, pen, paper, or pencil to class.. I had my Zaurus and my IR keyboard in my pocket and that was all I ever needed.. Taking notes, recording lectures, watching daily show while standing in line for hours for basketball ticket, hell I even met a cute cheer leader who wanted my notes; I was completely lost without my Z.. I sold belongings to buy a 5600 that I still have, I glided through the rest of my classes with everything I would need in my pocket and my head.. blink.gif

Thank you and Take Care Zaurus Community.
Ryan Hunt
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post Nov 5 2007, 02:11 PM
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Out of retirement you come my little poodle!
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post Dec 5 2007, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(dreadlocks @ Nov 5 2007, 11:58 AM) *
I still have my 5600 sitting on the shelf in the closet.. I used it as a usb wifi router for a while before retiring it..

I have a Poodle and although I found Watapon one of the best ROMs I've ever come across, I've eventually found myself back to the Sharp ROM. I would like to know how you managed to get this working though.

The Watapon ROMs were surely difficult to find but thankfully, I managed to unearth them. This is a great rom and I hope it is picked up and built on again.

Thanks for hosting it, dreadlocks!
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