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johnw
post Oct 24 2004, 04:44 PM
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The best & cheapest web site I've found for all sorts of cables is Cable & Connector Technologies.
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el_borak
post Oct 24 2004, 05:56 PM
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For the GoldX QuickConnect cables, the best price by far that I've found is CablesPlus.
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coolass
post Oct 24 2004, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(lumi @ Oct 24 2004, 11:36 AM)
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I have a multi-card reader in my desk at work which I believe is a lexar. The plug looks the same but does not fit my SL6000. Its so close that just looking at it you would think it would work. Maybe filing it down would get it to fit but I decided to just go ahead and order a cable for the Z.


I don't have a Lexar but I do have a multi-card reader. It has a mini-B connector. Please don't modify the mini-B connector to fit in the mini-A plug of the Zaurus. They are not electrically compatible. Just like you can't modify an A connector (goes into your PC) into a B connector (the large "house" shaped connector) which goes into devices.

Mini-A is new connector for smaller host devices. Smaller than PC's at least. In the USB world there are host devices and client devices and the cable ends for each are intentionally different. We just have one of the new devices which have the mini-A connector.

Get the mini-A Male to A Female connector from IRiver or the GoldX set or one of the two GE sets I mentioned.

Dave

Actually you can modify the mini-b to fit the mini-a because I did it in March when I got my Sl-6000 but be careful in doing so ,also I wrote a thread about the mini-a adapters and different devices to use with the Z so try a search and see what comes up. The Lexar is one of the devices that I plug into my 6k.
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post Oct 24 2004, 07:24 PM
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firstly, i just want to say great job!

now, i may just be dense, but i've scoured the iriver link in the first post but i can't find the cables you mentioned. do you perhaps have a part number so i can search further for it? i've just spent the last two days trying to figure out how to connect my mp3 player to my 6000L so i was very excited to find this post.

thanks.
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post Oct 25 2004, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE(etherised @ Oct 24 2004, 10:24 PM)
i've scoured the iriver link in the first post but i can't find the cables you mentioned.

Accessories / Portable Multimedia Accessories / scroll to the bottom
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xenophobe
post Oct 26 2004, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(coolass @ Oct 25 2004, 01:58 AM)
Actually you can modify the mini-b to fit the mini-a because I did it in March when I got my Sl-6000 but be careful in doing so ,also I wrote a thread about the mini-a adapters and different devices to use with the Z so try a search and see what comes up. The Lexar is one of the devices that I plug into my 6k.


Can you sync you SL-6000 with PC by this modified mini-b cable?
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lumi
post Oct 26 2004, 08:31 AM
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Actually you can modify the mini-b to fit the mini-a because I did it in March when I got my Sl-6000 but be careful in doing so ,also I wrote a thread about the mini-a adapters and different devices to use with the Z so try a search and see what comes up.


Coolass,

I tried to hunt down your earlier postings on modifying mini-B connectors into mini-A connectors but no luck... searched under "coolass" and mini-a or usb. Great stuff but nothing I could find on mini-A.

Any specific pointers?

Dave
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post Oct 26 2004, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(xenophobe @ Oct 26 2004, 04:27 AM)
QUOTE(coolass @ Oct 25 2004, 01:58 AM)

Actually you can modify the mini-b to fit the mini-a because I did it in March when I got my Sl-6000 but be careful in doing so ,also I wrote a thread about the mini-a adapters and different devices to use with the Z so try a search and see what comes up. The Lexar is one of the devices that I plug into my 6k.


Can you sync you SL-6000 with PC by this modified mini-b cable?

No you can't sync because both are acting as a usb host and they cancel out both the usb upstream and downstream.
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post Oct 26 2004, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(lumi @ Oct 26 2004, 11:31 AM)
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Actually you can modify the mini-b to fit the mini-a because I did it in March when I got my Sl-6000 but be careful in doing so ,also I wrote a thread about the mini-a adapters and different devices to use with the Z so try a search and see what comes up.


Coolass,

I tried to hunt down your earlier postings on modifying mini-B connectors into mini-A connectors but no luck... searched under "coolass" and mini-a or usb. Great stuff but nothing I could find on mini-A.

Any specific pointers?

Dave

You need a nice nail file a pair of needle nose pliers ,(pointed tip) and a little patience. First place the mini-b to the Zaurus port so that you can see the fit and then slowly start rounding the top corners all the way back for a good fit. The newly rounded corners might need to be slightly pintched together to give it a soft arch on top of the plug but be careful. If it is done correctly it will fit both the Z and the base. I take no responcesiblity for any damages done and I'm just sharing my experience. Use at your own risk.BUT it's not to risky anyway.
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post Oct 26 2004, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(Pirate @ Aug 24 2004, 10:15 PM)
Hey
I found a USB to mini A cable that works on a SL 6000.
You can plug USB peripherals such as keyboards, mice, externally powered USB hard drives and card readers into the Zaurus.

http://www.dcables.com/catalog/1_8_meter_u...in__3239068.htm

Do you realize that their page specifically states:

Please note: This cable is not compatible with the Sharp Zaurus SL-6000.
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post Oct 26 2004, 11:17 PM
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I have a CP Technologies 4-in-1 USB Card Reader which has a cable that is normal USB on one end and mini USB on the other. I don't yet know what the whole mini-A vs. mini-B thing is, but I do know that the mini-USB end does not fit my 6k. :(

I really would like to get one of those adapters that's male-female so I can plug a keyboard or whatever straight into it. I didn't see a gender changer in the USB kits and I can't seem to find the iriver one that was mentioned earlier.
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post Oct 27 2004, 10:09 AM
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hm... i was worried about this... i think we've encountered the same issue that scared me off chiefing a mini-b connector to fit... before mini-b became the absolute standard (also before there was anything handheld that could behave as a usb host) mini-a, mini-b, and the mini-four pin connector (looks like a very small full size B) were all competing to become the standard. I have an old mp3 player with the mini four pin, which is already hard to find in stores. I don't think mini a ever made it off the ground as a client, but the cable on that site is for that use. When a mini host plug was needed they just decided to use a shape that was already defined. What you're looking for is a five pin, not a four pin. The i-river cable i linked to in my other post is listed as a mini host cable, and it's just a pigtail that gives you a full size a female to plug your peripherals into... as soon as devices with full WIMP interfaces get too small for the full size usb A, we'll see companies come out with mini-mice and the like with mini-a males. Fujitsu and sony laptops have already gone to the four pin 1394 female, which is the mini version of "firewire" that you see on DV video cameras.

There seemed to be some confusion over the link to the host pigtail in the other post, so I won't post it here, but it's found over on the iriver site under accessories (picture of headphones), then portable media player (picture of a mpeg playing handheld). it's at the bottom of the screen.
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post Oct 28 2004, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(coolass @ Oct 26 2004, 06:40 PM)
No you can't sync because both are acting as a usb host and they cancel out both the usb upstream and downstream.

Has SL-6000 an OTG host or simply an USB-1.1 host?
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el_borak
post Oct 28 2004, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(el_borak @ Oct 24 2004, 08:56 PM)
For the GoldX QuickConnect cables, the best price by far that I've found is CablesPlus.

I just got in my CablesPlus order. I ordered:
  • GoldX QuickConnect, 5in (GXQU-05)
  • GoldX QuickConnect, 6ft (CPCGXQU-06)
I received:
  • GoldX QuickConnect "Bonus Pack - 2 Cables", 18in and 36in
  • GoldX QuickConnect, 10ft
So certainly a good deal (3 cables instead of 2, a more expensive 10' in place of the 6'), but a bit odd. Looking more closely, the packaging for the Bonus Pack is indeed marked GXQU-05, so I'm guessing the "5in" is just an error on their web site.
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post Oct 28 2004, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(xenophobe @ Oct 28 2004, 04:44 AM)
QUOTE(coolass @ Oct 26 2004, 06:40 PM)
No you can't sync because both are acting as a usb host and they cancel out both the usb upstream and downstream.

Has SL-6000 an OTG host or simply an USB-1.1 host?

OTG is basically a limited usb host but depending on the peripheral it can also act as a client.
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