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Varti
post Apr 24 2017, 04:35 AM
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Just found this interesting Zaurus on sale on Craigslist, btw I'm not affiliated in any way with the seller, just in case anyone from the San Francisco area is interested:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/6099684355.html

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post Apr 24 2017, 05:43 AM
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Ah, the infamous weeXpc! It is a commercial version pdaxii13 that Daniel3000 used to sell through his website. It caused a bit drama with some on the pdaXrom dev team.
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post Apr 25 2017, 01:58 PM
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I'm in the SF Bay Area....so, interesting to see this little Z....not sure I need it as I have my 3200....with 32GB CF drive in it.....


I picked a 3200 a few years ago that had weeXpc on it.....

Ran quite well, other than fact that it was out of date, especially, browser-wise....
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post Apr 25 2017, 08:07 PM
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Thanksfully, as I read all the doubts regarding it were at the end sorted out, once all the sources were made available for download. weeXpc has become freeware in the meanwhile, I have now mailed Daniel to ask him for a copy of this distro, I'd like to try it out. I have also asked him if he'd be interested in mirroring it here.

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post Apr 26 2017, 07:53 AM
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Sounds good, Varti.......

Have found Daniel to be a very nice and helpful guy in the past.

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post Apr 29 2017, 04:49 AM
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I can confirm that, ArchiMark, he has replied me and allowed me to host the archive, plus he'll put the sources online too, he indeed sound like a nice guy.

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post May 1 2017, 06:43 AM
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Great, Varti....

Now if we could get an up to date version of it, we'd be all set....


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post May 2 2017, 07:18 AM
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It would be great, but unfortunately weeXpc is now unsupported since some years, and I'm not sure Daniel would be interested to resume its development. He's anyway interested to know how's the forum doing lately, I'll suggest him to stop by here for a quick greeting smile.gif

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post May 2 2017, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(Varti @ May 2 2017, 08:18 AM) *
It would be great, but unfortunately weeXpc is now unsupported since some years, and I'm not sure Daniel would be interested to resume its development. He's anyway interested to know how's the forum doing lately, I'll suggest him to stop by here for a quick greeting smile.gif

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Thanks, Varti......

I was just joking about weeXpc being updated.

I know it won't happen at this point. As you say, it's been too many years.

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post May 3 2017, 05:31 PM
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That is great news. WeeXpc/pdaxii13 along with Cacko were the most feature complete of all the Zaurus ROMs. In fact WeeXpx/pdaxii13 really was the first distro for the Zaurus with all the polish that Meanie put into it.
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post May 16 2017, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Varti @ Apr 24 2017, 05:35 AM) *
Just found this interesting Zaurus on sale on Craigslist, btw I'm not affiliated in any way with the seller, just in case anyone from the San Francisco area is interested:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/6099684355.html

Varti

Thank you, Varti. I couldn't believe my luck when I contacted the seller last week, as this was still available.

I made the trip to SF, and picked it up. I've been running the weeXpc installation, but I think I'm going to install my customized pdaXii13 build, which I made a NAND backup of.

The problem with weeXpc in the SL-C1000 as I see it is that it uses a partition in the SD card as swap, and I've been getting issues (input/output errors and so forth) while I was playing music from it. Also, the WM (I believe it is LXDE) is too heavyweight compared to fluxbox, which is what I was running. The machine is in beautiful condition though. The seller was nice enough to add a bunch of extras as well.

Let me know about the possibility of hosting those feed backups I told you about in the other thread.
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post May 17 2017, 12:55 AM
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I'm glad that my post has been useful to you. Lately most of the Zaurus stuff can be only found on japanese auction sites, so it's nice to find stuff that can be picked up locally. I'll post more similar ads (outside Amazon/Ebay) from American or European sellers in the future as soon as I find them, especially those who allow for local pickups.

Regarding weeXpc, FluxBox is indeed more indicated for a low specced device like the Zaurus. The problem with the swap memory is that it is almost necessary for most recent applications (especially on Arch Linux ARM) to overcome the 64MB RAM limit, but on the other side it quickly kills any SD/CF card since they have not been designed to handle that many read/write operations. An ideal solution would be an SSD to CF adapter, to connect an SSD disk to it and use it for the swap partition. Looks like I'm not the only one with this idea:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5470.475

The USB port can be also used, of course, but AFAIR it is slower than the internal CF port.

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post May 17 2017, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(Varti @ May 17 2017, 01:55 AM) *
I'm glad that my post has been useful to you. Lately most of the Zaurus stuff can be only found on japanese auction sites, so it's nice to find stuff that can be picked up locally. I'll post more similar ads (outside Amazon/Ebay) from American or European sellers in the future as soon as I find them, especially those who allow for local pickups.

Regarding weeXpc, FluxBox is indeed more indicated for a low specced device like the Zaurus. The problem with the swap memory is that it is almost necessary for most recent applications (especially on Arch Linux ARM) to overcome the 64MB RAM limit, but on the other side it quickly kills any SD/CF card since they have not been designed to handle that many read/write operations. An ideal solution would be an SSD to CF adapter, to connect an SSD disk to it and use it for the swap partition. Looks like I'm not the only one with this idea:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5470.475

The USB port can be also used, of course, but AFAIR it is slower than the internal CF port.

Varti

Yes, I am very grateful for your tip. I will do the same thing, and post in the forum if I find any Zaurus for sale online which I think is a good deal. The funny thing is that just a few weeks ago I had sent an offer to an eBay user which is selling an SL-C1000 for $300 (which I believe is abusive), for much less (but still more than the $50 I ended up paying for this one).

I hear you about the RAM limit. Fluxbox is incredibly efficient though, which adds to its usefulness for the Zaurus. In my configuration, I create a swap file whenever I need it. What I don't like about the weeXpc setup is that it is like that by default, so in order to remove the SD card you need to halt the system (in the SL-C1000). I think I have all that mapped out to some keyboard shortcuts, but I don't remember for certain, as it has been at least 3 years since I used my system last.

Quick question: Does the Zaurus write a lot to the area where the OS resides, or is that for the most part static? I seem to remember that when I configured my system I made an effort to eliminate writing of logs, storage of configuration files, etc in internal memory, in an effort to minimize the wear of internal memory, since once that goes the Zaurus would be pretty much a brick.

I really wish they had equipped these machines with internal wifi and bluetooth, as it really would have freed that CF slot to be used as a semi-permanent expansion drive, and the SD as removable media.
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post May 21 2017, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(ToneBlind @ May 18 2017, 12:07 AM) *
Yes, I am very grateful for your tip. I will do the same thing, and post in the forum if I find any Zaurus for sale online which I think is a good deal. The funny thing is that just a few weeks ago I had sent an offer to an eBay user which is selling an SL-C1000 for $300 (which I believe is abusive), for much less (but still more than the $50 I ended up paying for this one).

It might be a NOS unit, inside a never opened box, but that price is still too high, considering the prices on places like the japanese Yahoo Auctions...

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I hear you about the RAM limit. Fluxbox is incredibly efficient though, which adds to its usefulness for the Zaurus. In my configuration, I create a swap file whenever I need it. What I don't like about the weeXpc setup is that it is like that by default, so in order to remove the SD card you need to halt the system (in the SL-C1000). I think I have all that mapped out to some keyboard shortcuts, but I don't remember for certain, as it has been at least 3 years since I used my system last.

You can use the swapoff command to free the SD card, but still it's not that practical to do that everytime.

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Quick question: Does the Zaurus write a lot to the area where the OS resides, or is that for the most part static? I seem to remember that when I configured my system I made an effort to eliminate writing of logs, storage of configuration files, etc in internal memory, in an effort to minimize the wear of internal memory, since once that goes the Zaurus would be pretty much a brick.

No idea... These days I'm in touch with weeXpc's author, I'll ask him if he remembers this.

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I really wish they had equipped these machines with internal wifi and bluetooth, as it really would have freed that CF slot to be used as a semi-permanent expansion drive, and the SD as removable media.

That's every Zaurus user's thought smile.gif

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