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> Carbon Fibre/kevlar Zaurus Body, Feeler for interest
maytagman
post Mar 25 2006, 07:57 PM
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Greetings. I am new to the forum with the purchase of my new SL-C1k from Conics. I am trying to gauge interest in customized composite body replacements for the clamshell design. Since I own a 1k and the body style is common amongst 1k-3200, I have decided to do only this model as a pilot. I will be investigating into either a full kevlar/CF and epoxy resin replacement body to fit your Z, hand molded from my own.

I also have a connection for vinyl auto graphics who has agreed to provide customized logos at a very fair price (<$5 per iteration). This means that your choice of graphics at approximately $5 per color will be laser cut and placed directly on the composite body before it is coated in a gloss epoxy resin. This will give a very clean and professional look to your Zaurus, and is far, far more durable than the plastic outer casing. You will also experience a degree of weight savings over the plastic/metalic bodies.

At this time I am modeling only the top screen portion and the bottom cover of the case, to include the battery cover. The inner case (keyboard surround) is outside my ability to produce to a high degree of accuracy, but can be done on a custom basis for a larger amount of cash if you're composite obsessed wink.gif

Carbon fiber is available in a number of colors, but I will be using the standard carbon pattern that you see on performance cars, etc. The kevlar is standard tan/creme color, and looks quite industrial. Kevlar will be cheaper as it is easier to work with, and less material expense.

I'm shooting to keep the cost under $100 for the complete carbon body set, or kevlar. This is of little or no profit to me, but gives me some nice experience in working with the materials. Please let me know if this sort of arrangement would be of interest to you. Also in the works may be a molded, exact form fitting case for the clamshell 1000 and beyond series. Again, at a cost of less than $100 if possible, including a custom graphic. The case material is strong enough to withstand being thrown at a brick wall by a pro baseball player and will be padded to withstand the most clumsy zaurus user. Oh, and waterproof, and floating. And with less bulk and weight than a leather case (which is only about $25 less than my target price for real carbon fiber!) biggrin.gif

Keep in mind though, carbon fiber is in a general shortage right now due to Airbus, Boeing, and the US's lust for carbon fighter aircraft >.>
So, these prices are totally tentative.

Opinions?
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BarryW
post Mar 25 2006, 08:12 PM
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I think if you do build one and show the quality, you'll probably get more responses. I for one would love to see it.
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maytagman
post Mar 25 2006, 08:19 PM
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Well buying a sample amount of material is very expensive. I just want to know how many people would be interested, so I can buy bulk. Of course I'm not stupid enough to ask anyone to commit to anything before theres a product, but I just would like to know who would be interested in a high quality composite replacement. For now just respond as if it were perfect product ;P
I'll always have a use for carbon, so its not like I'm wasting my money buying a roll if nobody actually grabs one wink.gif
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post Mar 25 2006, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(BarryW @ Mar 25 2006, 08:12 PM)
I think if you do build one and show the quality, you'll probably get more responses.  I for one would love to see it.
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Jesus barry!! what's going on with you? hehe. I thought you sold the z.
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BarryW
post Mar 25 2006, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(Cresho @ Mar 25 2006, 08:40 PM)
QUOTE(BarryW @ Mar 25 2006, 08:12 PM)
I think if you do build one and show the quality, you'll probably get more responses.  I for one would love to see it.
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Jesus barry!! what's going on with you? hehe. I thought you sold the z.
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I did! Still hanging around though.
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Srono
post Mar 26 2006, 12:01 AM
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Interesting. but i would like to see the real one also tongue.gif
If it's nice, i believe u can sell a lot.
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post Mar 26 2006, 02:31 AM
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If the pics are good i would buy one

What i am looking for:
Slightly larger internal capacity
Redesighned outer body (i need one or 2 groves to allow a docking station to click in and stay held, see sig)
Prefrebly the keyboard area as well (can be normal plastic, may be able to get that made see slashdot (http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/25/2054200)

i dropped my case and chiped the paint on a conner as well as denting it, at the moment i estimate it would cost me $100 AUD to replace with a c3100 case (i hate the white)

as soon as you have good quality pics of a good product then i will buy one
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pepilo
post Mar 26 2006, 07:51 AM
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I'am also interested.
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maytagman
post Mar 26 2006, 09:25 AM
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The problem with the keyboard surround is that it is quite difficult to machine 50+ tiny holes to exact accuracy. Although it would look very cool, it would be extremely difficult to make consistent productions of that detail. As to body modifications, if you can create a mold out of a non-expanding modeling material, it is relatively simple to lay the product to your specifications. I'll give it a week or so before I put in my material order to see what the deal is.

I've done numerous automotive components of equal or greater detail to the Z, but that keyboard area is just too much of a pain to justify doing at the target pricepoint. The goal is to make a rugged exterior that you can simply take some auto paint compound to when it becomes scratched or dull, and restore it to new. Also, it will look very cool! I am casting my molds tonight if I have the time smile.gif

If you can source the keyboard elsewhere, that would probably be your best decision. I don't think you'll find a vendor who is willing to do a composite faceplate unless they are using a very expenisve CNC machine to cut extremely accurate holes after the epoxy binding has been cured.

Edit: I've been getting some questions as to installation. If this goes down, I will be providing the *parts*, to be installed by the end user. As I've mentioned previously I don't have a safe, clean, static free environment to be doing that sort of work, and I'm risking my own Z just by leaving it out naked on my desk rolleyes.gif
But, the case doesnt seem all that difficult to disassemble so far, so I doubt it will give you any issues.
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post Mar 26 2006, 10:44 AM
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I am interested too. Even better if it is "modified" to include a bit of extra space for electronic (internal) add-ons.

I'd love to see a SL-6000 version as well.

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Randall.
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cycle_55
post Mar 26 2006, 11:19 AM
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sign me up. I'd take two depending on the cost of course. You can always email me at hotmail.

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zeigerpuppy
post Mar 26 2006, 01:22 PM
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interested, especially if it allows access to the internal cf slot or space for internal usb/serial bluetooth/wifi
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post Mar 26 2006, 02:56 PM
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same here, a little extra space, just enough to slide in a bt and wifi dongle.....(.125" will do)
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post Mar 26 2006, 03:42 PM
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I always have liked how people are so paranoid about static, i have dropped the bare board on the carpet and watched it slide with no ill effects

the enviroment can play a huge part in static buildup, a slightly mosit enviroment can keep static to a minimum, but i guess most people dont want to risk a device like this like i do smile.gif]

installation cant be that hard if its the same procedure as taking off the case

about the case size mdoification and extra groves for a docking station, would you be able do do the molds or would i have to, i dont mind modifing the standard case by extendeding the top of the bottom half and placing groves along the outside, however i would much prefer a more angular case that meshes to the top of the doking staion better

somthing a bit more rectangular, should i just contact you directly?
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alban42
post Mar 27 2006, 12:41 AM
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I am VERY interested I have a Z3200 on Order ...
PLEASE Make It Waterproof I got My Z3100 Wet & it Died ... (;-{)
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