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> New Zaurus Successor?, Kohjinsha SA1F00A/B UMPC 7'', x86@500MHz
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post Jun 23 2007, 12:21 AM
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btw, is it just me, or is there a wave of zaurus sellers? I sense that this is in anticipation of or a response to the whole series of kohjinsha and sub-lite notebook that is going for cheap.

One thing I do on my zaurus akita that I don't do on my kohjinsha is to write my diary or journal before I sleep at night; sure the korigami is very small and light for a tabletpc or notebook, but still a bundle to hold and prop up while typing in bed. With my Z, I can thumb away laying in bed and it's quite ok.

How are you guys using your Kohjinsha?
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post Jun 23 2007, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(Snappy @ Jun 23 2007, 09:21 AM)
btw, is it just me, or is there a wave of zaurus sellers? I sense that this is in


there are quite a few C1000s being sold in the UK too; I am wondering if people are upgrading to 3200s in the anticipation of them disappearing.
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post Jun 23 2007, 05:48 AM
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QUOTE(Snappy @ Jun 23 2007, 03:21 AM)
How are you guys using your Kohjinsha?
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My real Zaurus replacement is my Nokia E61. I've found there is a lot of value in having a pocketable device with a full keyboard and good app support (i.e. a decent OS). The Z sort of filled that role, but the lack of built in voice and data connectivity (WiFi needs a fragile card sticking out the side and I still had to carry a phone for voice) eventually got too annoying for me.

My Kohjinsha picks up nicely where the E61 starts hitting its limits. Web browsing, music/movies, software development, and working with documents. Some of these (music/movies) I used to do on the Z, but for the others I had to either carry a big bag of Z accessories (portable keyboard and such) or a full laptop.

So the Kohjinsha has allowed me to go from phone+Zaurus+laptop to smartphone+Kohjinsha. So far I'm pretty happy with how this new arrangement is working out smile.gif
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post Jun 23 2007, 07:42 AM
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How are you guys using your Kohjinsha?
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I am using mine mostly like you do, I use my Z to write articles and take notes during the day as things pop into my head. The K is used for everything else and I still have a small office where I have a desktop which does all the intensive stuff I do such as downloading. I am still looking for an appropriate phone.

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post Jun 23 2007, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(kopsis @ Jun 22 2007, 06:43 AM)
I am curious about the "feel" and accuracy of this different model. Have you tried it out using the USB port? How does it compare to the SA1's keyboard? It looks like it's about the same size so an entire keyboard transplant may be theoretically possible.
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The feel and accuracy are somewhat better than the SA1 ... it doesn't seem to miss keystrokes, however there is still a little play in the keys (nothing serious).
The opening for the keyboard on the Kohjinsha is about 1/32" more in both length and width than on the USB keyboard.
As far as a "transplant", I havent a clue, but I think it would be a big improvement if it could be done.

It does work very nicely as a USB keyboard on the K ... using the English(United States) language option, all the keys work as displayed on the keyboard.

All in all, it's a nice working little keyboard and I've decided I'm going to keep it.
For $20 it's not worth the hassle of going around with the seller about it.
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post Jun 27 2007, 09:40 PM
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Official info for the new Kohjinsha:

http://www.kohjinsha.com/models/sh/sh6wb04a/index.html
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post Jun 28 2007, 07:27 AM
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So is it correct to say that for tabletPCs or Kohjinshas running MS Vista, it would be considered tablet enabled? ie, there is no Vista TabletPC edition right? Vista has handwriting natively built in right?
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post Jun 28 2007, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(Snappy @ Jun 28 2007, 08:27 AM)
So is it correct to say that for tabletPCs or Kohjinshas running MS Vista, it would be considered tablet enabled? ie, there is no Vista TabletPC edition right? Vista has handwriting natively built in right?
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I think all Vista editions EXCEPT for Vista Home Basic have the tablet PC functionality built-in.....

HTH...
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post Jun 28 2007, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Jun 29 2007, 01:17 AM)
QUOTE(Snappy @ Jun 28 2007, 08:27 AM)
So is it correct to say that for tabletPCs or Kohjinshas running MS Vista, it would be considered tablet enabled? ie, there is no Vista TabletPC edition right? Vista has handwriting natively built in right?
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I think all Vista editions EXCEPT for Vista Home Basic have the tablet PC functionality built-in.....

HTH...
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*ouch* ... MS is beginning to get on me with all their 'flavors' of Vista ... becoming a joke!
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post Jun 28 2007, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(kopsis @ Jun 23 2007, 09:48 PM)
QUOTE(Snappy @ Jun 23 2007, 03:21 AM)
How are you guys using your Kohjinsha?
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My real Zaurus replacement is my Nokia E61. I've found there is a lot of value in having a pocketable device with a full keyboard and good app support (i.e. a decent OS). The Z sort of filled that role, but the lack of built in voice and data connectivity (WiFi needs a fragile card sticking out the side and I still had to carry a phone for voice) eventually got too annoying for me.

My Kohjinsha picks up nicely where the E61 starts hitting its limits. Web browsing, music/movies, software development, and working with documents. Some of these (music/movies) I used to do on the Z, but for the others I had to either carry a big bag of Z accessories (portable keyboard and such) or a full laptop.

So the Kohjinsha has allowed me to go from phone+Zaurus+laptop to smartphone+Kohjinsha. So far I'm pretty happy with how this new arrangement is working out smile.gif
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Aye ... That's true for me as well ... although the Kohjinsha is bigger and heavier, it has more things built in, and so I end up with lesser things to bring but still have equal if not more functionality than carrying the Z with the accessories.
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post Jun 28 2007, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(cycle_55 @ Jun 23 2007, 11:42 PM)
I am using mine mostly like you do, I use my Z to write articles and take notes during the day as things pop into my head. The K is used for everything else and I still have a small office where I have a desktop which does all the intensive stuff I do such as downloading. I am still looking for an appropriate phone.

cycle_55
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Aye ... the kohjinsha is really beginning to sink into me, or me into it. It is still too heavy to lay down on one's back and read or surf with it, no matter which way I turn, but it is truly meeting most if not all my other needs. wink.gif
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post Jun 28 2007, 08:54 PM
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Can someone write up a quick table of these new handhelds emerging including a possible street price? It would be amazingly helpful! Especially with new ones like the Asus Eee, Kohjinsha, Via's UMPC. It get's very confusing also to know what's currently available and release dates. So much info! tongue.gif

Hope that the request isn't an annoying one.
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post Jun 28 2007, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(zodttd @ Jun 29 2007, 12:54 PM)
Can someone write up a quick table of these new handhelds emerging including a possible street price? It would be amazingly helpful! Especially with new ones like the Asus Eee, Kohjinsha, Via's UMPC. It get's very confusing also to know what's currently available and release dates. So much info! tongue.gif

Hope that the request isn't an annoying one.
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No worries, it's not much of a hassle ... especially when these info is easily found in some of the umpc sites. wink.gif

In any case, AFAIK, only Kohjinsha is out in the market, on the shelf, below the bed, in the toilet, ... you get the idea? biggrin.gif

Kohjinsha - ~ US$680 to US$780 depending on model. Available in Singapore, US (via parallel importers like conics, dynamism etc)
Asus Eee -
Via's UMPC -

ok, here's a better idea ... tongue.gif ... Prices are on individual pages...
http://www.umpcportal.com/products/
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post Jun 28 2007, 11:35 PM
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Thanks Snappy! Never knew about umpcportal!
The Kohjinsha sounds cool, but may be considered pricey depending how the Asus Eee does when it arrives.

I liked the looks of the Pepper Pad on there. It looks like a gaming PocketPC. tongue.gif
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post Sep 1 2007, 03:38 PM
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thought people might be interested in a video review of the nanobook aka packard bell XS; this looks like a real rival to the Asus eee - depending on price, cheaper by far than the Fuj U8420/U1010 but less sexy!

http://www.ultramobilelife.com/index.php?o...ask=view&id=340
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