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> Rss Aggregator/reader, Would like a nice RSS reader on the Z
JohnKiniston
post Mar 28 2005, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(eji @ Feb 24 2005, 12:58 AM)
I've tried ZauRSS, but it's really rough-looking. I also don't think it supports anything beyond RSS 0.1.

It would be great to see an RSS aggregator/reader like NetNewsWire or NewsFire for the Z. I certainly wouldn't expect all the whistles and bells, but one that supports RSS 2.0 and Atom with an intuitive GUI layout.
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http://www.elsix.org/index.php?w=project&p=jvMiniRSS

QuackNews is new and works on my 5500 under OZ, It's Java based.
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post Mar 31 2005, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(JohnKiniston @ Mar 29 2005, 05:54 AM)
http://www.elsix.org/index.php?w=project&p=jvMiniRSS

QuackNews is new and works on my 5500 under OZ, It's Java based.
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Works on Cacko too.
As John said its new and the developer is open to sugestions for fixes/features.
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post Mar 31 2005, 02:03 AM
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I gave QuackNews a whirl. It's new and it shows. It's as rough-looking as ZauRSS and it gave me quite a bit of hassle (resolution, .conf file error etc) on the SL-6000.

DMblogger, which was suggested earlier in this thread, is excellent. I've been using it since ashikase pointed it out and I'm very pleased. It's a lot more polished than QN and it also has a blogging feature for those of you who have Moveable Type sites. I love seeing new Z apps appear and dedicated developers behind them, but it's going to be a while before QN is on par with DMB. When it is, though, I'll certainly give it another try. smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2005, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(eji @ Mar 31 2005, 11:03 AM)
I gave QuackNews a whirl. It's new and it shows. It's as rough-looking as ZauRSS and it gave me quite a bit of hassle (resolution, .conf file error etc) on the SL-6000.


Did you let the Guy know you had a problem?

I dont think he has access to a 6000 to test it so I'm sure he'd appriciate the feedback.
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Strijar
post Apr 11 2005, 09:03 PM
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What about http://liferea.sourceforge.net/ ?
I want try build for pdaXrom...
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post Apr 13 2005, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(eji @ Mar 11 2005, 06:40 PM)
After using DMBlogger for a few days, I'm reporting back to say it's very close to what I was looking for.
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hi eji,
I am not able to sucessfully use DMBlogger. It installed ok. I went through the *.rb to replace the unreadables (Japanese) to English using the function names as a guide. After adding a rss site. The CTRL_G function fails to update. It returns an error. I am not sure if it something to do with file permissions. Any pointers
Thanks.
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eji
post Apr 13 2005, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(ensign @ Apr 13 2005, 05:59 PM)
QUOTE(eji @ Mar 11 2005, 06:40 PM)
After using DMBlogger for a few days, I'm reporting back to say it's very close to what I was looking for.
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hi eji,
I am not able to sucessfully use DMBlogger. It installed ok. I went through the *.rb to replace the unreadables (Japanese) to English using the function names as a guide. After adding a rss site. The CTRL_G function fails to update. It returns an error. I am not sure if it something to do with file permissions. Any pointers
Thanks.
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There are a bunch of Ruby-related files that you have to install in addition to the DMblogger ipkg. I think ashikase listed them in one of his posts above. Did you install those as well?

If so, the problem might be that you changed a term that you shouldn't have, resulting in the refresh error. Or your text editor is altering the format when saving them. I can post my widget files for you to copy into /home/QtPalmtop/bin/dmblogger/gui/ -- but keep in mind I'm still running 1.3.0-1, not the newer 1.3.1. Because it's such a pain the bum to convert it all to English, I'm only going to update out of necessity. tongue.gif
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Mongoosefred
post Apr 14 2005, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(eji @ Mar 31 2005, 10:03 AM)
I gave QuackNews a whirl. It's new and it shows. It's as rough-looking as ZauRSS and it gave me quite a bit of hassle (resolution, .conf file error etc) on the SL-6000.


eji,
Sorry to hear about the problems. Can you do me a favour and give me a list of the issues you had with QuackNews. As was mentioned, I only have access to a SL-5500 runing OZ so any feed back from a completely different system would be a great help.

Also if there any killer features that stop you, or anyone else, from wanting to use QuackNews I'd love to hear about them, I'm adding a page download feature at the moment, to download the URL linked to the Item and hope to add Atom support for verson 0.5 as well, but anything else that people think would be good will help me.

At the end of the day, a product is only as good as the people who come up with the ideas for the features, so all ideas welcome.

-MF
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tovarish
post Apr 14 2005, 02:17 AM
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There is this feature I would like in QuackNews. It is a bit complicated so i'll try and explain.

this is the NYtimes op-ed feed
http://www.nytimes.com/services/xml/rss/nyt/Opinion.xml

this is a sample article link
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/14/opinion/...&partner=rssnyt

this is the same article's printer friendly format link
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/14/opinion/...print&position=

You can see that the printer friendly format is more suited for viewing in a pda and the difference in the urls is "&pagewanted=print&position=".
What I would like is a bit of light scripting support (maybe javascript or ecma) within quacknews so that rss links could be changed to something more pda friendly.
Most websites have a printer friendly page.

I know it is asking too much but it would be a great functionality for a pda based rss reader.

tovarish
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eji
post Apr 14 2005, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(Mongoosefred @ Apr 14 2005, 10:00 AM)
QUOTE(eji @ Mar 31 2005, 10:03 AM)
I gave QuackNews a whirl. It's new and it shows. It's as rough-looking as ZauRSS and it gave me quite a bit of hassle (resolution, .conf file error etc) on the SL-6000.


eji,
Sorry to hear about the problems. Can you do me a favour and give me a list of the issues you had with QuackNews. As was mentioned, I only have access to a SL-5500 runing OZ so any feed back from a completely different system would be a great help.

Also if there any killer features that stop you, or anyone else, from wanting to use QuackNews I'd love to hear about them, I'm adding a page download feature at the moment, to download the URL linked to the Item and hope to add Atom support for verson 0.5 as well, but anything else that people think would be good will help me.

At the end of the day, a product is only as good as the people who come up with the ideas for the features, so all ideas welcome.

-MF
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No worries. I've been meaning to e-mail you the list of errors as suggested above but I was alternately too lazy and too busy.

The resolution is for 320x480. When I run it as unmaginified, it shrinks the size of the window to about 1/3 of my screen size. It also kept reporting an "error reading .conf file," even when I ran it as root.

Sorry to say that after these problems I immediately uninstalled it, so I can't report on any more.

I'm no good at programming and weak at diagnostics, but I can make you a new icon (maybe borrowing from Adium) if you like.
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post Apr 14 2005, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE(tovarish @ Apr 14 2005, 11:17 AM)
There is this feature I would like in QuackNews. It is a bit complicated so i'll try and explain.

What I would like is a bit of light scripting support (maybe javascript or ecma) within quacknews so that rss links could be changed to something more pda friendly.
Most websites have a printer friendly page.

I know it is asking too much but it would be a great functionality for a pda based rss reader.

tovarish
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I suspect that each site has diffrent setup which would be best for PDA's so it would be dificult to get the "best" page from each site...

For example:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/04/1...e_of_ownership/
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/04/1...ship/print.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4443569.stm
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools...ion/4443569.stm

http://news.google.com/
http://news.google.com/news?ned=tus
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post Apr 14 2005, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE(Moonshadow @ Apr 14 2005, 10:37 AM)
QUOTE(tovarish @ Apr 14 2005, 11:17 AM)
There is this feature I would like in QuackNews. It is a bit complicated so i'll try and explain.

What I would like is a bit of light scripting support (maybe javascript or ecma) within quacknews so that rss links could be changed to something more pda friendly.
Most websites have a printer friendly page.

I know it is asking too much but it would be a great functionality for a pda based rss reader.

tovarish
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I suspect that each site has diffrent setup which would be best for PDA's so it would be dificult to get the "best" page from each site...

For example:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/04/1...e_of_ownership/
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/04/1...ship/print.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4443569.stm
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools...ion/4443569.stm

http://news.google.com/
http://news.google.com/news?ned=tus
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Thanks for the surgestions. I was already thinking along these lines, but didn't know how much of a requirement it would be. I'll give it some thought and see if I can do it at the same time as the page downloading.
-MF
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tovarish
post Apr 14 2005, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE(Moonshadow @ Apr 14 2005, 11:37 AM)



yes each site has its own way to show the printer friendly links but its nothing a regex search and replace cannot solve.


QUOTE(Mongoosefred @ Apr 14 2005, 12:36 PM)
Thanks for the surgestions.  I was already thinking along these lines, but didn't know how much of a requirement it would be.  I'll give it some thought and see if I can do it at the same time as the page downloading.
-MF
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The idea is not original as it has been implemented in sunrise, an offline browsing tool outputting plucker documents. I am pasting sample scripts sunrise uses.

For NYTimes
CODE
<script>
    document.onanchorlink = function(link)
    {
 if (link.depth == 1)
 {
     // Append "printable version" parameter to query string
     link.uri += "&pagewanted=print";
 }
    };
</script>


for washington post
CODE
<script>
    document.onanchorlink = function(link)
    {
 if (link.depth == 1)
 {
     link.uri = link.uri.replace("http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/", "http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/");
     link.uri = link.uri.replace(".html?nav=rss_world", "?language=printer");
 }
    };
</script>


Sunrise has been developed in java so this functionality may not be too difficult.

If you need any help, I'll be glad to assist. I am a bit of a java programmer myself

tovarish
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post Apr 14 2005, 06:12 AM
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tovarish

I did install all the ipks listed earlier in the thread.

I may have been overzealous in converting to english. I actually when through all the subdirectories under /home/QtPalmtop/bin/dmblogger/*. Overkill, I know.

I will appreciate it if you send me (or make available to download) your version of /home/QtPalmtop/bin/dmblogger/* - maybe compressed, to try out.

Thanks.
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post Apr 14 2005, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(ensign @ Apr 14 2005, 02:12 PM)
tovarish

I did install all the ipks listed earlier in the thread.

I may have been overzealous in converting to english. I actually when through all the subdirectories under /home/QtPalmtop/bin/dmblogger/*. Overkill, I know.

I will appreciate it if you send me (or make available to download) your version of /home/QtPalmtop/bin/dmblogger/* - maybe compressed,  to try out.

Thanks.
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I've attached the entire gui folder as a .zip archive. Just unzip it and drop it in to /home/QtPalmstop/bin/dmblogger/ to replace the old one. Should work, I hope. Also keep in mind that I haven't translated everything, just the basic daily-use stuff.

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