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  Jan 31 2007, 08:19 AM
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Folks from russian zaurus community installed gentoo on zaurus. It's not a gentooforzaurus port, it's just usual gentoo with minor changes placed on SD card with portage files via NFS and xorg-server based on ebuild from ipaq hx4700 overlay
Actually it's "ready to make ready to use" , rather then "ready to use" It's slightly tested on c1k and c3k Screenshots can be found at screenshot 
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Jan 31 2007, 08:50 AM
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Yeah, check it out!
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=115yf.png http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=221qq7.png http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn17202ku.jpg http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn17220gy.jpg Think the last post on page 18, sums it up nicely..... http://www.zaurus.ru/board/viewtopic.php?t...r=asc&start=255 
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Jan 31 2007, 10:24 AM
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yeah!
now we ve to find an english install howto 
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Jan 31 2007, 10:53 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 22-April 04 From: Belgium Member No.: 2,962 |
QUOTE(jpmatrix @ Jan 31 2007, 07:24 PM) yeah! now we ve to find an english install howto  Indeed, I tried to read the russian pages through bablefish, but that didn't help me that much. I understand they use the pdaXrom uboot loader and there is an "sd-snapshot" available. But then again, I might be completely wrong, "translation bablefish through always that isn't good" A quick howto and a list of files to download would be nice to do a few tests and take a look at it, Please ... Chero. |
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Jan 31 2007, 12:15 PM
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I understand Russian ... will check it tomorrow
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Jan 31 2007, 01:21 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(kkazakov13 @ Jan 31 2007, 08:15 PM) I understand Russian ... will check it tomorrow Please, please do! I've been wanting to see gentoo on zaurus since the early opensystemas anouncement. Are you going to try it out and post a how to after, maybe? |
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Jan 31 2007, 01:30 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,398 |
warning: opinions abound
i use gentoo on all my linux boxes at home, including my home servers. I like it because of portage and emerge, which, IMO is the only reason to use gentoo. compiled performance enhancements are normally imagined. a gentoo based *image* for a zaurus is a great thought and portage/emerge can also handle binary packages. maybe a zaurus model specific, binary (read arm pre-compiled), portage overlay would work well enough. portage / emerge would then have the same concept as feeds / ipkg. if someone were to try and emerge an app that wasn't in the binary ovelay, then it could dl the src and compile it. emerge -a would be your friend. i'm not a developer by any means, but i would think that most of the already arm compiled apps for pdax/oz would be compatable, although making the ebuilds for them might be a pain. file destinations and paths might be an issue; alot of ebuilds currently in portage "gentoo-ify" file destinations when installing the finished app/lib. however, i do agree with the gentoo dev on the last post of ArchiMark's link. doing a source based distro for a z is just plain asinine. i even curse it on my pc's at times. if gentoo's biggest pains (install and source compiling) could be removed / limited from the general z user, then it might be worth while. leaving the arm compiling to people with more than one z and people who like punishment another distro choice for the z isn't necessarily a bad thing. Just my $.02 --webslngr edit: i found a portage pda overlay in the gentoo forums, looks like it is for an ipaq. [link: forums.gentoo.org] |
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Jan 31 2007, 02:03 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 28-November 04 From: NM, US, sometimes Asia Member No.: 5,633 |
Interesting ... gentoo on Z would make yet another full distro on Z.
It's good to have choices ... but isn't this bordering on "because we can" kind of choice? |
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Jan 31 2007, 02:50 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(Snappy @ Jan 31 2007, 10:03 PM) Interesting ... gentoo on Z would make yet another full distro on Z. It's good to have choices ... but isn't this bordering on "because we can" kind of choice? Unless it is relatively easy to continue with gentoo from there-- this would help proof us in case OZ moves on and pdax goes static |
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Jan 31 2007, 05:12 PM
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Don't know about others. Gentoo holds no interest to me. Much too big a pain in the butt to setup and having to compile everything on the Z would get old in a hurry. I would get much more excited about Ubuntu on the Z.
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Jan 31 2007, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(Ling @ Jan 31 2007, 08:12 PM) I would get much more excited about Ubuntu on the Z. I second that! |
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Jan 31 2007, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jan 31 2007, 09:29 PM) QUOTE(Ling @ Jan 31 2007, 08:12 PM) I would get much more excited about Ubuntu on the Z. I second that! <Roberts Rules of Order> We have a second, and that opens the floor to discussion. </Roberts Rules of Order> Embedded Ubuntu is being discussed here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmbeddedUbuntu |
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Jan 31 2007, 07:16 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 3-June 04 From: Virginia, US Member No.: 3,563 |
I run Kubuntu on my other boxes. I imagine that KDE (or Gnome) would be a bit heavy for the Z. Maybe Xubuntu would be the right fit. i know less than nothing, but I wonder with the Debian ARM packages if this is a possibility? Maybe a new distro with XFCE tailored for the Zaurus called Zubuntu! Yeah baby.
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Jan 31 2007, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(jpmatrix @ Jan 31 2007, 10:24 AM) yeah! now we ve to find an english install howto very-very quick `how to install that snapshot to c1k/c3k SD card` for pdaxrom users in english Notes: This snapshot is not a system to use, it's for test and play. More usable snaps will be in future, i believe Packeges in snap listed in ftp://gentoo.ru/projects/handhelds/zaurus...i.pack_list.txt This snap is EABI More details about EABI you can get at http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort Download files: ftp://gentoo.ru/projects/handhelds/zaurus...gnueabi.tar.bz2 Format SD card as ext3 and extract archive to mounted card c3100/c3200 users need to replace SD_CARD/kernel.img with image from ftp://gfz:gentoofz@civil.mine.nu/2.6.19.2-vanilla/kernel.img and extract modules to SD_CARD/lib/modules from archive at ftp://gfz:gentoofz@civil.mine.nu/2.6.19.2.../modules.tar.gz You can compile your own kernel image, but note that you need to enable EABI in kernel config and boot options: CONFIG_CMDLINE="console=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty1 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootfstype=ext3 rw fbcon=rotate:1 rootdelay=5" Remove battery for 5 seconds or press `reset` button and press and hold the "OK" button. you will booted into emergency ram system, it runs autoboot.sh that offers you to install kernel to NAND, so press Y and install it. (similar to installing pdaxrom, but this autoboot.sh install new kernel.img only. If you want to turn back your pdaxrom system, just copy kernel.img from pdaxrom archive to SD card and repeat this procedure.) root's password is `qq` thats all |
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Jan 31 2007, 07:54 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
I think it is BECAUSE gentoo compiles that it is possible to put it on a Z. and even the tiniest speed increase helps. I have kubuntu on my desktop, debian on my server. going gentoo on the desktop wouldn't kill me, much as I like my kubuntu. I like pdaX on my Z, but would spend the time to see how gentoo works
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