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 Nov 15 2005, 12:31 PM
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Fellow tosa-lovers, beware!
The following pictures may offend your eyes... http://www.sharp-ssp.co.jp/products/kigyou...003/shiyou.html I love my 6000W, but I find what they did to it so disgusting. I really wonder what sharp is doing to its linux base with such moves :-/ |
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Nov 15 2005, 01:58 PM
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Yeah... remeber the silver 6000w clone w. 128 ram that hitachi announced last year? makes me even more sure the hitachi was a z in drag.
Would love to get my hands on one, though (hitiachi 128m z... not wince for my 6k) Does this mean that sharp has more 6ks? that sharp is well on the road to abandoning linux? or is this some weird in-country marketing thing that only makes sense in japan? |
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Nov 15 2005, 02:37 PM
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If these sell well, it may at least mean that batteries won't be so hard to find.
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Nov 15 2005, 03:17 PM
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Let's all cross fingers for new production batteries...
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Nov 15 2005, 03:25 PM
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my opinion - the zaurus line won't last for long...
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Nov 15 2005, 07:22 PM
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Look at it this way, at least we know we can put linux on it!
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Nov 15 2005, 08:16 PM
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If it could dual boot, that wouldn't suck. Windows Mobile has some useful applications.
Or better yet, VMware for ARM. |
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Nov 15 2005, 09:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(guylhem @ Nov 15 2005, 11:25 PM) my opinion - the zaurus line won't last for long...  ugh. then what? nokia? oqo? laptops? weird ipod keyboard hacks? Surely some kind of reasonable reference design based on commonly available parts (and off the shelf batteries, my crusade of the season) could generate interest somewhere? maybe gamepark could be convinced to do a vga clamshell? Vmware for arm? hmmmm |
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Nov 15 2005, 11:34 PM
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Really Nokia seems like the best bet. They've already given more back to the open source community in 1 year or so than Sharp has in more than 3. The 770 is a little big to use as a handheld, but it seems more like a test platform anyways. Maybe a Nokia phone/pda based on Linux?
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Nov 19 2005, 05:15 PM
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There's also the Motorola Linux phones, though they're not fully open.
Best hope right now for linux on handhelds simular to Zaurus is PalmOS for Linux, pending Palmsource ever releases it. |
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Nov 28 2005, 10:52 AM
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Personally, I don't care what OS a gadget comes pre-installed with, as long as it can be reflashed. If Sharp can improve on the Zaurus hardware and grow their market by developing PocketPCs, I say it's good for all of us too. Maybe it would even bring them back outside Japan.
All you "yuck yuck PocketPC" complainers should think about the big picture. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy batteries again? |
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Nov 28 2005, 11:55 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(DrWowe @ Nov 28 2005, 06:52 PM) Personally, I don't care what OS a gadget comes pre-installed with, as long as it can be reflashed. If Sharp can improve on the Zaurus hardware and grow their market by developing PocketPCs, I say it's good for all of us too. Maybe it would even bring them back outside Japan. All you "yuck yuck PocketPC" complainers should think about the big picture. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy batteries again? Yeah.... but... Think about what a pain it is to get linux on an axim (if it goes at all) with NO linux support at all everything would have to be back engineered from scratch, possibly putting new roms years after hardware releases. Not a good situation. I am hoping: a). we get the off-the shelf battery packs for the Z's going  . sharp sticks with linuxc). nokia makes a clamshell 770 with a cf slot d). something new comes along e). the tiqit gets built etc. otherwise the future holds a small laptop and a big linux smartphone. |
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 Nov 28 2005, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(adf @ Nov 28 2005, 08:55 PM) Think about what a pain it is to get linux on an axim (if it goes at all) with NO linux support at all everything would have to be back engineered from scratch, possibly putting new roms years after hardware releases. Not a good situation. otherwise the future holds a small laptop and a big linux smartphone. sadly, I agree. If linux on undocumented hardware was not very hard (i.e. not trivial but not difficult) then * linux on axims would be commonplace * the HTC universal would already be running linux I am wondering why the Zaurus C3100 and 1000 models have become relatively cheap of late compared to when they were first released... I hope it's not because Sharp is dumping stock and discontinuing the models? If they are thinking of it, we can only hope they will do a version with mickeysoft mobile on it and at least preserve it. |
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Nov 28 2005, 01:30 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Nov 28 2005, 08:46 PM) I am wondering why the Zaurus C3100 and 1000 models have become relatively cheap of late compared to when they were first released... I hope it's not because Sharp is dumping stock and discontinuing the models? If they are thinking of it, we can only hope they will do a version with mickeysoft mobile on it and at least preserve it. I was under the impression that the prices reflected an adjustment of the value of the yen, which had been high (at least vs. the USD) for the past few years. |
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Nov 28 2005, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(adf @ Nov 28 2005, 04:30 PM) I was under the impression that the prices reflected an adjustment of the value of the yen, which had been high (at least vs. the USD) for the past few years. If you look at the cost history in yen, that will eliminate any price changes due to the fluctuation of the USD to yen conversion rate. The C1000 and C3100 have dropped about 33% from MSRP.SL-C1000 price history MSRP: 49,800 street: 33,490 SL-C3100 price history MSRP: 79,800, street: 54,000 SL-6000W price history MSRP: 79,800, street: same 
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