 Yet Another Bluetoothed Simpad, a mod using unexpensive USB dongle |
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  Dec 28 2006, 12:23 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 5-October 04 From: konstanz, germany Member No.: 4,874  |
Hi Nev,
nice to see your mods ... possible to get more infos on which bluetoth and mmc/sd card module you use? I will try to make a bt and mmc/sd mod for my SimPad SL4 because I missing some additional FlashROM and a bt module! What about use a dual wlan / bt module licke a cheap MSI one? MSI Computer WLAN BT USB dongle found on eBay! Thanks Martin |
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Dec 28 2006, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Martin @ Dec 28 2006, 08:23 PM) Hi Nev, nice to see your mods ... possible to get more infos on which bluetoth and mmc/sd card module you use? I will try to make a bt and mmc/sd mod for my SimPad SL4 because I missing some additional FlashROM and a bt module! What about use a dual wlan / bt module licke a cheap MSI one? MSI Computer WLAN BT USB dongle found on eBay! Thanks Martin  802.11x is not as simple to hook up, you'd have get a USB host CF card, or wire in a USB host chip(good luck with that). The bluetooth chip in the USB dongle used here is actually compatable with RS-232, which is availible inside the Simpad. It's not connected via USB, it's just a cheap way to get the chip. I believe there is a thread with more info on what USB dongles have RS232 serial compatable chips inside, try this one. |
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Dec 30 2006, 09:10 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 5-October 04 From: konstanz, germany Member No.: 4,874 |
Thanks Tom61,
yes I know about it and connection on rs232 port inside simpad ... yes but all usb host adapters I know are only 1.1 and very expensive for that project! Hi Niv, I saw this photo and recognized a sd/mmc slot inside ... which sort auf adapter / socket do you use? I saw a little board at the mmc/sd slot. is it possible to switch the bt module on / off per software (using an unused bit of the port)? What about using a hardware switch? Thanks Martin |
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Dec 30 2006, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(Martin @ Dec 30 2006, 07:10 PM) I saw this photo and recognized a sd/mmc slot inside ... which sort auf adapter / socket do you use? I saw a little board at the mmc/sd slot. I used this reader: Bonzai you need to I removed the one chip it has and the usb metal connector. then used the on-board 5V->3.3 converter I also noticed that some readers had a lengthier board (usb connector to the card socket , wise). this one has one that fits fine. QUOTE is it possible to switch the bt module on / off per software (using an unused bit of the port)? What about using a hardware switch? no. using the adapter ,albertr suggested, one may only reset the unit. but one may hold the reset line , thus effectively turning the unit off. I have yet to see any of this work as there is no current open embedded version , that can fit the simpad. why? because OE migrated to 2.6. there is currently no driver for the simpad screen driver that works under 2.6. and so , I am unable to add the code provided in the site and test bluetooth , or/and mmc. |
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Dec 30 2006, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(niv @ Dec 30 2006, 09:14 PM) I have yet to see any of this work as there is no current open embedded version , that can fit the simpad. why? because OE migrated to 2.6. there is currently no driver for the simpad screen driver that works under 2.6. and so , I am unable to add the code provided in the site and test bluetooth , or/and mmc. ?????? OE didn't 'migrate to 2.6' and certainly not for simpad. it even has a big fat MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION ?= "2.4" line in the machine description |
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Dec 30 2006, 02:34 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: 3-June 05 Member No.: 7,261 |
thanks koen for this quickly
The info I gave was according to the advice I got at the #OE irc channel. btw, they also claimed this forum is not up to date.. pls tell me then what to put in local.conf to build a proper simpad image. 1) which of these lines to comment? PREFERRED_PROVIDERS = "virtual/qte:qte virtual/libqpe:libqpe-opie" PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11" PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc-initial:gcc-cross-initial" PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc:gcc-cross" PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}g++:gcc-cross" 2) should TARGET_MACHINE = be simpad? assuming its not defined: 3) TARGET_ARCH="arm" and DISTRO = "generic" right? (to all other ppl that may get here and read my post, please look in oe getting started to understand what I am seeking) Niv |
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Jan 1 2007, 08:21 PM
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My knowlege of the openembedded.org tree is a bit to old to answer your question correctly.
But you can follow this description to get a Familiar SIMpad Image (Nodedog has written it): http://opensimpad.org/index.php/HowTo_Make_your_own_image AFAIK the Familiar distribution has forked from the openembedded.org tree. And AFAIK Frederik is working on the Familiar Distribution. Frederik is doing a lot for SIMpad users there. regards nice |
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Jan 12 2007, 04:09 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: 3-June 05 Member No.: 7,261 |
found the usb dongle albertr suggested on the web :
23$ |
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Jan 13 2007, 02:36 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 4-April 05 Member No.: 6,787 |
The SIMpad kernel in Familiar should have bluetooth and MMC support, although I never could test it, since I don't have a modded SIMpad.
The Familiar installation guide for SIMpad is available at: http://opensimpad.org/index.php/Linux and http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SimPad Please pick images at: http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0....ll/files/simpad (use gpe-image-v0.8.4-simpad-rootfs.jffs2) (if you select "download" from the familiar homepage, you won't be able to ge these, use the above direct link instead) I hope you'll manage to get the whole thing working! cheers, Fred |
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