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Nov 29 2007, 12:07 PM
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I just found the best-looking web browser I've seen in a long time!
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ It's installed on Puppy Linux (what I'm using for now off my USB drive after nuking my HDD), renders really well (just like FF), and seems lightweight. I'm having trouble building it, though. It appears to be looking for "lemon" Anybody know what that is? Thanks! Screenshot from my laptop just now. EDIT: Found some build instructions. Trying them soon...
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Nov 29 2007, 01:45 PM
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I'm getting a couple of errors (meaning it won't run). I'll post them later if I don't get them sorted out (no time now). I think I saw them mentioned in one of my searches on how to compile it.
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Nov 30 2007, 06:32 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 11-November 07 Member No.: 20,935 |
I'm getting a couple of errors (meaning it won't run). I'll post them later if I don't get them sorted out (no time now). I think I saw them mentioned in one of my searches on how to compile it. I am always searching a good alternative for firefox. This browser seems very good. I hope you can compile it |
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Nov 30 2007, 07:29 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 217 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 3,590 |
I tried this webbrower on debian because it is already built in debian. For my experience, the page rendering is too slow to use compared to others such as dillo, epiphany-webkit and epiphany-gecko.
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Jan 4 2008, 05:25 PM
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I'm still working on getting this to work, and it appears that pdaXrom's glibc is to blame for the crashes. I'm looking into building a newer version of it and trying that.
Just trying to keep people informed. |
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Feb 16 2008, 09:55 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,837 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Illinois USA Member No.: 8,821 |
Any news on this?
I would love to replace my Firefox/Epiphany combination. (I like epiphany, but it still requires mozilla/firefox files to work). |
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Feb 16 2008, 09:55 PM
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I got it working on Angstrom, but it loads pages slowly (kind of like elinks does). I don't think it's such a good option anymore.
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Feb 17 2008, 01:26 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,277 Joined: 29-July 04 From: Cambridge, England Member No.: 4,149 |
I got it working on Angstrom, but it loads pages slowly (kind of like elinks does). I don't think it's such a good option anymore. is there a reason for it to be slow - lack of CPU, memory? have you set up all the right options for cache? just speculating that there might be some tweaks to make it faster? |
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Feb 17 2008, 02:58 PM
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It doesn't feel like a CPU/memory issue. I think the engine is just inefficient at processing web pages.
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Feb 18 2008, 02:10 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,277 Joined: 29-July 04 From: Cambridge, England Member No.: 4,149 |
It doesn't feel like a CPU/memory issue. I think the engine is just inefficient at processing web pages. yes, but if that were the case it'd be cpu bound. could it be that to save memory it doesn't cache (or not much) so it has to fetch everything from the web server all the time? try installing "iptraf" or doing this: while [ /bin/true ] ; do netstat -i ; sleep 1 ; done and see how much traffic you're pushing when browsing, and compare with a better browser? |
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Feb 18 2008, 04:04 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 4-December 06 From: Lake Constance, Germany Member No.: 13,087 |
It doesn't feel like a CPU/memory issue. I think the engine is just inefficient at processing web pages. Hmm, according to this review here http://www.drobe.co.uk/riscos/artifact2191.html performance should be quite good, at least on RISC OS. I am wondering which pages you have taken to evaluate performance, there are plenty of reasons why performance under Angstrom might be not so good and most of them are curable (remove debug symbols, other compile options, etc.). However the lack of JavaScript support is a killer for me anyway ... Oliver |
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Feb 18 2008, 07:26 AM
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I didn't use any specific tests, it was all subjective. I'd also have to rebuild it to do more stuff (I was too lazy to make an ipk and deleted the source).
I don't think I left debugging stuff in it, and, IIRC, was using "-O3 -mtune=xscale -mcpu=xscale -fomit-frame-pointer" |
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Feb 23 2008, 02:27 PM
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I'm working on getting it recompiled and will do my best to provide more concrete results than last time (this is on Angstrom, though).
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Feb 24 2008, 04:43 PM
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It's done building (no, it wasn't building the whole time). What test results would people like to see?
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Feb 25 2008, 04:12 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 4-December 06 From: Lake Constance, Germany Member No.: 13,087 |
It's done building (no, it wasn't building the whole time). What test results would people like to see? Suggestion: The link mentioned above includes several tests browing different web sites so you could use this as a starting base running the same tests to compare how it performs under Angstrom. Oliver |
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