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> Open Linux Mobile Phone By Trolltech, This might be what weve been waiting for
lpotter
post Aug 17 2006, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Mickeyl @ Aug 18 2006, 03:04 AM)
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If they do flash GPE or Opie, they wont be able to really access any GSM functions, thus turning there cool Greenphone into a Greenpda.

Why is that? How is the GSM part accessed?
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as far as I know, neither opie nor gpe has any gsm capabilities. Of course, that it not saying it is not possible.
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post Aug 17 2006, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(mars @ Aug 18 2006, 05:08 AM)
Slightly OT for Greenphone, but this is a qtopia phone with built-in keyboard and 640x240 resolution that just made the news and slashdot:  http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/08/17/ro..._targets_nokia/

It is by German manufacturer Road and includes quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Apparently it has been vapourware until now (maybe still is).
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I wouldnt say its too off topic, as this device does ship with Qtopia on it.
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post Aug 18 2006, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE(lpotter @ Aug 17 2006, 09:35 AM)
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I can't help but agree ...
While it may be a good thing for developers and geeks , mainstream isnt going to be convinced unless apps are developed, not kernel hacks.
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Developers and geeks is exactly who this if for! Not Joe Grandma barely-can-make-mobile-phone-calls, or even general mobile phone consumer.
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Of course, understanding that is not for Joe six pack or Jane Grandma, what I want to stress on is the point that more apps on the Greenphone framework will make such an open based phone platform more attactrctive to "mainstream" phone manufacturers and ISP's et all, not consumers. Its adaptability factor will increase if mfrs can see that with an open platform they can have more apps on it, which will make it more attractive to consumers in turn.

Maybe, just maybe, that will also convince the carriers some what (though they are the the staunch opponents of freedom).

Its like all the apps for Palm made Palm PDA's such a in-demand product when palm started shelving out app development to the community (free and paid).
Windows CE intially didn't take off because of the lack of third-party apps.
The same maket paradigm can (and should) work for phones after all.
After all, phones are not only for making calls anymore and neither should it be only for apps (like Vcast GPS by verizon) sold and mandated only by the carriers. The general user should be able to buy a phone app from Handango (not counting the few Java game apps) and use it straightway on such a open phone.

So in the long run, such an open framework (or call it reference deisgn) like the greenphone is a very good step in making the market see the advantages of a open phone platform.
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Mickeyl
post Aug 18 2006, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(lpotter @ Aug 17 2006, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE(Mickeyl @ Aug 18 2006, 03:04 AM)
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If they do flash GPE or Opie, they wont be able to really access any GSM functions, thus turning there cool Greenphone into a Greenpda.

Why is that? How is the GSM part accessed?


as far as I know, neither opie nor gpe has any gsm capabilities. Of course, that it not saying it is not possible.


Aha, thanks. I was merely questioning the feasibility of accessing the GSM part with open source software at all, not the fact that currently(!) neither Opie nor GPE come with a telephony app.
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post Aug 19 2006, 05:24 AM
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GSM and modems are basically the same, normally the are connected to a serial part and use tha ATA command set with a few extra things for SMS and such so as long as you have pppd you can use gprs and if you have a modem dialing program and alsamixer you can make calls and route the audio
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post Aug 19 2006, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 19 2006, 11:24 PM)
GSM and modems are basically the same, normally the are connected to a serial part and use tha ATA command set with a few extra things for SMS and such so as long as you have pppd you can use gprs and if you have a modem dialing program and alsamixer you can make calls and route the audio
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True. but most mobile phone modems handle more than just communications. It' s the AT commands that aren't documented or in the GSM/GPRS spec that you would probably want most.
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post Aug 20 2006, 12:52 PM
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On the note of the Opie and GPE phone programs, don't forget that Gommunicator and it's sub-port Qommunicator (Designed FOR GPE and OPIE respectively) are currently in development.
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post Sep 9 2006, 03:29 AM
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Hi all

Interesting article and photos here.

Cheers
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post Sep 11 2006, 01:52 PM
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If I can still afford it when it's released, I'll be getting one methinks.
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post Sep 12 2006, 06:26 AM
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you can now buy a greenphone with the development kit:
http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/...9-11.5308424158
US$695 and up.

some pix at silicom.com
http://networks.silicon.com/mobile/0,39024...39162166,00.htm
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post Sep 13 2006, 05:01 AM
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QUOTE(speculatrix @ Sep 12 2006, 03:26 PM)
you can now buy a greenphone with the development kit:
http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/...9-11.5308424158
US$695 and up.

some pix at silicom.com
http://networks.silicon.com/mobile/0,39024...39162166,00.htm
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It is reported that it does not (yet) have WLAN. Is this true?

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post Sep 13 2006, 05:27 AM
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lpotter,

is there any chance to get a group discount for oesf users? $695 it's a quite hefty price ...., twice a zaurus ....
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post Sep 13 2006, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE(dhns @ Sep 13 2006, 08:01 AM)
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Sep 12 2006, 03:26 PM)
you can now buy a greenphone with the development kit:
http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/...9-11.5308424158
US$695 and up.

some pix at silicom.com
http://networks.silicon.com/mobile/0,39024...39162166,00.htm
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It is reported that it does not (yet) have WLAN. Is this true?

-- hns
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It is true. There is no Wifi on the Greenphone.
I think somewhere even Lpotter confirmed it.
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post Sep 13 2006, 10:41 AM
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... There is no Wifi on the Greenphone ...


Of course not! Companies are hungry for money! One company that makes
devices, has to partner with another company for telephony "stuff". The end
result is, that they want you (to be forced) to connect to a phone carrier's
network (for $) when you want to connect to the internet!

The "Green Phone", get it! smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2006, 11:06 AM
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'open'? Show me the sources!
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