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 Feb 17 2005, 03:55 PM
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I just bought this Zaurus prototype at ebay Germany (picture attached).
Can anybody tell me details about this Zaurus? I found this this link related to my new toy  http://www.geek.com/pdageek/features/zaurus/ Hope somebody can give me some information. Thanx marx
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Feb 17 2005, 03:58 PM
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First time I've seen that. Wow, they changed a lot in the design from the prototype...
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Feb 17 2005, 06:34 PM
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It is a phone prototype that Sharp scrapped. We have a few of these devices around the office.
EJ00 is what it says on the back. D1 is printed on the front. |
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Feb 18 2005, 03:31 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
Thank you for your quick response!
Zaurus EJ00 or Sharp EJ00 does not bring anything usefull at google. The D1 probably stands for the German Mobile-Provider "T-Mobile". Perhaps this prototype was developed for the German market? The keyboard at my picture and at the picture of geek.com has a german layout (QWERTZ). Are there any info's about the operating system? Is its functionality the same as of a "normal" Zaurus? Does the buildin GSM really work? Thanx marx |
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Feb 18 2005, 10:59 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
I did some more research (can't wait till my new toy arrives
 ). Here German site with some more information:http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/25817 In short it says, it is a Linux smartphone by Sharp called "Iris" developed for T-Mobile. Operating system and GUI are "quiet" like the Zaurus SL-5500G. Technical details: 206 MHz StrongARM-CPU, 64 MByte RAM, 16 MByte Flash-ROM, 16-Bit-color-touchscreen. Start of selling should have been summer 2002. Price unknown, alltough in the related comments they say about 700,- Euro. If it was ever really sold I don't know yet, but I have still a lot of time waiting  marx |
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Feb 19 2005, 03:19 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
My "Iris" has still not arrived yet
 To shorten the waiting-time, I continued my google search. This (German) link I found is less encouraging: http://www.linux-magazin.de/Artikel/ausgab.../news/news.html They say the Iris is a "stripped down" version of the Zaurus running with a 70 Mhz Strongarm processor. Confusing  marxx |
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Feb 19 2005, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(marx @ Feb 17 2005, 04:55 PM) I just bought this Zaurus prototype at ebay Germany (picture attached). Can anybody tell me details about this Zaurus?  What was it listed as in eBay? a Zaurus? Can we read the auction? |
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Feb 19 2005, 10:30 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
I won't post the ebay-link for privacy reasons, but I can give you description of the auction.
It was listed at ebay germany as a MDA prototype. The seller did not know what kind of device he owned. There seemed to be no serial numbers or other clues on the device. The seller also wrote, that he had no expeariance with linux and was not able to make a phonecall with this "smartphone". He supposed that there where only 10 of these prototypes build (whereever that information may came from). Before I did my bid on that auction I did some google search. With the keywords linux smartphone (http://images.google.com/images?q=linux%20...lr=&sa=N&tab=wi) I found a picture of the offered device (linked to www.geek.com). There it said it should be the future of the zaurus. That's why I bought the "strange prototype"  I'm still looking for more technical details to shorten my waiting time. any info is welcome. When the smartphone arrives I can post the details I will find out. marx |
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Feb 20 2005, 08:48 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 27-November 03 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 1,001 |
QUOTE(marx @ Feb 19 2005, 04:59 AM) If it was ever really sold I don't know yet, but I have still a lot of time waiting marx Like I said, Sharp never released this device. It was to to be sold with Qtopia on it. |
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Feb 24 2005, 04:48 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
It arrived! Finally So my first impression: - It has one Cardslot on top (no CF) - It starts a very strange operating system (does not look like qtopia) - Most applications seem not to fit into the display - Only a few applications really run - The SIM-Card is detected, I can enter the SIM-Code, which is accepted - The phone can't connect to it's network - It often crashes - I have not found a way into the system yet - The only way to look at the filesystem is with the "Packetplayer" - It is very slow What I would like to do: - Find a way into the system to find out the hardware details - Backup the system on a mmc or sd card - Try to bring a qtopia on the device - Keep the phone functionality So my questions: - Does anybody knows a way to a console (there an installer in the operating system)? - Has anybody an original qtopia operating system with support for the intergrated phone? Thanx marx |
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Feb 24 2005, 02:01 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 3-December 03 From: US Member No.: 1,034 |
too bad its not in any working condition.
Maybe if you could lay your hands on Qtopia Phone  ?After all, lpotter says Qtopia was supposed to be on it. Is Qtopia phone as open as Qtopia PDA ? |
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Mar 17 2005, 04:40 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
What happend until now:
I bought a 256MB mmc card. The card is recognized well by the device. My idea was accessing the card with the "netfront" browser, start a index.html which calls a signed java applet filebrowser and then copy the systemfiles to the card. I wrote such an applet and it works great in normal browsers. It's bewildering to see how easy you can get full file-access by a signed applet. The problem is, that the netfront browser on my prototype doesn't support java  Next I tried was starting the buildin filemanger by the HTML functionality "input type=file". No way. Netfront does not support this feature either. So I'm stuck now. No way to copy the files from the system. Does anybody has any ideas? In the worst case I will flash an other system on the device, but I really would like to keep the gsm-drivers. Flashing is a problem too. The normal Zaurus-Keys won't start the flashing process. @lpotter: Do you have a clue for me, how to start the flashing?` Thanx marx |
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Oct 2 2005, 09:04 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-February 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,490 |
Ok, I quit
As there was now way for me to get into the system, I decided to sell the "strange prototype". If you interested in the device, just go to: Ebay Germany. Foreign bidders are welcome, just contact me first for shipping details. Silently crying marx |
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Oct 2 2005, 02:13 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 27-November 03 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 1,001 |
Did you try a serial cable?
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Oct 3 2005, 02:49 AM
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i remeber that zlib had a buffer overflow problem that was recently corrected (some one correct me if i'm wrong) one thing apache can do is serve up gzip encoded webpages which netfront supports so that could have been one way to get somthing to run.
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