Zaurus Port Of Treeline, Out the door Options

[zenyatta]

Hi all,

I started working on a Zaurus port of the fine TreeLine outliner early last year but later got distracted. I haven't touched it in about 7 months now and it isn't really ready for a release but I do use it daily and absolutely can't do without it, despite the bugs. As I have trouble finding the time to finish it, I have decided to release it in its crude present state. Either someone will pick it up or enough users will find it promising enough to nag me into activity Or maybe it won't interest anyone, which is fine. In any case, it is there, on my homepage.

Cheers,
z.

[Flandry]

Thanks for your work on porting, and for bringing this program to my attention. This looks like a neat program, but may i ask if anyone knows how functional it is on Z (particularly the clamshells), and how fast? Specifically, is it slow when the number of nodes gets large? The spreadsheet can be annoyingly slow, so i'm looking for svelte in new apps.

I'm looking for a decent replacement for the notepad PIM app on the Palm, and although this doesn't allow handwritten doodling, it does allow internal links and tree structure, something which i often found a need for with notes on the Palm. So perhaps this is the missing link in the K/pi PIM suite. Is that more or less how you use it?

[zenyatta]

Thanks for your work on porting, and for bringing this program to my attention.  This looks like a neat program, but may i ask if anyone knows how functional it is on Z (particularly the clamshells), and how fast?  Specifically, is it slow when the number of nodes gets large?  The spreadsheet can be annoyingly slow, so i'm looking for svelte in new apps.

My .trl files come in at around 50 nodes each and responses are perfectly swift. There is one exception, though. If I have a node with lots of children, I select the node and switch to the Editor tab, it takes a few seconds for the view to appear (this is because a relatively complex widget tree is being built on-the-fly). A workaround is to switch off View > Selection w/ children.

Another thing is start-up time (up to 10 seconds on my 5500) so I like to keep TreeLine open at all times and use the Home button to "minimize" it. Start-up time would definitely improve if we got TreeLine to work with python-quicklauncher (not sure how python-quicklauncher itself is progressing, Mickeyl should know).

I'm looking for a decent replacement for the notepad PIM app on the Palm, and although this doesn't allow handwritten doodling, it does allow internal links and tree structure, something which i often found a need for with notes on the Palm.  So perhaps this is the missing link in the K/pi PIM suite.  Is that more or less how you use it?

I keep most of my information in node names and the tree structure. It allows me to quickly zoom in on what I'm after. I have little need for rich data (such as doodles ) within the node itself. Having said that, you should get familiar with the current desktop version of TreeLine (0.11.1), see which features you would like to have in the Zaurus port and then voice it somewhere around here. A plug-in infrastructure has been in place in TreeLine since 0.10.0 so maybe it wouldn't be too hard to write a doodling plug-in if you desire. You can also sign up to the treeline-users mailing list and ask whether anyone is working on something along those lines.

My own distant plans include developing a plug-in that would let me connect to a SQL database and browse self-referencing tables as trees (with TreeLine data types dynamically generated from table structure etc.).

Cheers,
z.