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May 25 2005, 07:27 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,662 |
Nokia has announced a new Linux based PDA (Internet Tablet).
Key features: * 640x800 display, 4.13 inch (slightly larger than Zaurus Cx000) * 141x79x19 mm (slightly larger but thinner) * 230g (less weight) * touch * NO QWERTY * integrated WLAN and Bluetooth * processor unclear * 1500mAh battery (3h operation, 7 days standby) * Linux (seems to be Debian) * uses X-Server and GTK * own development platform www.maemo.org * availablility seems to be 3Q 2005 (i.e. September) * price is rumoured to be 400 EUR (indicating availability in Europe) I have set up an info page: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=770 Nikolaus Here is a FAQ page: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,75108,00.html |
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May 25 2005, 07:43 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 1,210 |
hmm they use the matchbox window manager, but not gpe
Processor will be an arm ("Building ARM packages to maemo devices ") "Open Embedded Integration" is on the roadmap |
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May 25 2005, 08:16 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 3-December 03 From: US Member No.: 1,034 |
They announced this at the LinuxWorld in New York - maybe that also indicated a US release.
More details here at Infosync. I was quite surprised Nokia going the Linux way. But as usual its handicapped in certain ways - no keyboard and no CF expandibility. Features I like - Bluetooth offers profiles for connectivity to Nokia phones (and maybe others too), file transfer etc (no crippled BT here) and it does say USB connectivity to PC (not sure if USB host is there). I read the infosync site saying 4" screen, maybe thats incorrect. But just 64 MB RAM ? Thats it ? |
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May 25 2005, 08:53 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 86 Joined: 21-January 04 Member No.: 793 |
It says on the Nokia site that it's not yet compatible with USB keyboards which would imply that it's got USB host.....it's just not implemented in software.
Could be reading too much into it though. |
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May 25 2005, 09:09 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 578 Joined: 2-January 04 From: Texas USA Member No.: 1,324 |
The most interesting thing I saw was that it is shipping with a Flash 6 player.
http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,75023,00.html It's compiled for linux ARM. Very interesting... |
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May 25 2005, 09:13 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,662 |
QUOTE(stupkid @ May 25 2005, 06:09 PM) And did you see the Supported File Formats? Audio: MP3, Real Audio, MPEG4, AAC, WAV, AMR, MP2 Image: JPEG, GIF, BMP, TIFF, PNG, Animated GIF format, SVG-tiny, ICO Video: MPEG1, MPEG4, Real Video, H.263, AVI, 3GP |
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May 25 2005, 09:35 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 10-March 05 From: Lisboa, Portugal Member No.: 6,606 |
<flame-bait>Too bad the ui is gnome based</flame-bait>
Maybe is they opensource the ui it could be added to oe, might be interesting to run it on the c1000. Now if they had based it on opie... |
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May 25 2005, 09:59 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 30-July 03 Member No.: 320 |
QUOTE(handheld-linux @ May 25 2005, 09:27 AM) Nokia has announced a new Linux based PDA (Internet Tablet). Key features: * 640x800 display, 4.13 inch (slightly larger than Zaurus Cx000) * 141x79x19 mm (slightly larger but thinner) * 230g (less weight) * touch * NO QWERTY * integrated WLAN and Bluetooth * processor unclear * 1500mAh battery (3h operation, 7 days standby) * Linux (seems to be Debian) * uses X-Server and GTK * own development platform www.maemo.org * availablility seems to be 3Q 2005 (i.e. September) * price is rumoured to be 400 EUR (indicating availability in Europe) I have set up an info page: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=770 Nikolaus Here is a FAQ page: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,75108,00.html This is exactly the direction the next Zaurus clamshell should go....a wireless multi-media platform (WiMP ??). Well, the acronym falls short but a SL-C3000 with 802.11g & BT built-in and better video playback would blow this thing away, not to mention the host of available software. Let's go Sharp! The competition is about to overtake you. |
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May 25 2005, 09:59 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,014 Joined: 4-January 05 From: Enschede, The Netherlands Member No.: 6,107 |
QUOTE(jbbrs @ May 25 2005, 05:35 PM) <flame-bait>Too bad the ui is gnome based</flame-bait> Maybe is they opensource the ui it could be added to oe, might be interesting to run it on the c1000. Now if they had based it on opie... Build opie with QT/X11 and you can run it without messing to much with the device. GPE allready runs on it: http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/maemo/ . |
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May 25 2005, 10:33 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 19-December 04 Member No.: 5,974 |
The Inq is reporting that it will cost only $349! Sounds too cheap for the great screen and features. 400 €uros sounds more like it, but lets hope it's less.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23494 Sounds like a good device, and apparently it has a TI OMAP Processor (http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=11991&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_1710) Just slap on a keyboard and camera and it's almost perfect! Maybe Sharp needs to stay sharp if it's not to loose out. |
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May 25 2005, 10:45 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
Hmmmm.... I think i might keep more of an eye on nokia
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May 25 2005, 10:58 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 3-December 03 From: US Member No.: 1,034 |
I don't think Sharp is that worried, since this doesn't seem to be slated for the Asian (Japanese markets) where Sharp is focussing.
And the Japsnese and Asians like keyboards a lot (even on phones), hence the popularity of SMS out there - so something without a keyboard might not cust mustard with the discerning Asian market. Now in the US market its a whole different equation. People might be content to buy this thing if only for movie playback and Audio (what with the multiple formats its supporting). But if Sharp were to reconsider the US markets again, then they had better spruce up their (US/Europe) act. Apart from the bigger screen and Wifi/BT, I don't see what extras it brings that the Zaurus doesnt. just my 2 cents here |
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May 25 2005, 11:20 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 19-December 04 Member No.: 5,974 |
QUOTE Apart from the bigger screen and Wifi/BT, I don't see what extras it brings that the Zaurus doesnt. Those alone make it worth considering for me! Also, it adds a Mic, decent video support, Flash Player 6, internet radio streaming (So, mainly software benefits) and it's thinner. Not sure about PIM though? |
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May 25 2005, 11:29 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(davidmcnaught16 @ May 25 2005, 07:20 PM) QUOTE Apart from the bigger screen and Wifi/BT, I don't see what extras it brings that the Zaurus doesnt. Those alone make it worth considering for me! Also, it adds a Mic, decent video support, Flash Player 6, internet radio streaming (So, mainly software benefits) and it's thinner. Not sure about PIM though? \ But... my 6k already does internet radio streaming(I only checked shoutcast ,but I guess that's good enough) the existence of their flash player might well mean one we can use in the near future. I'm ok with my video playback. basically --it is a step in the right direction. I wouldn't trade my 6k for it... but i might find myself buying my next handheld from nokia instead of sharp--if nokia learns faster than sharp does. |
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May 25 2005, 09:47 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Germany Member No.: 6,662 |
QUOTE(davidmcnaught16 @ May 25 2005, 08:20 PM) QUOTE Apart from the bigger screen and Wifi/BT, I don't see what extras it brings that the Zaurus doesnt. Those alone make it worth considering for me! Also, it adds a Mic, decent video support, Flash Player 6, internet radio streaming (So, mainly software benefits) and it's thinner. No need for a keyboard? |
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