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kopsis
post Jul 18 2005, 01:53 PM
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From some of the discussion in the General topics, it's become clear that getting the Zaurus SDK up and running is a stumbling block for aspiring Zaurus developers. In an effort to lower the bar, I've created an entire development environment (based on Damn Small Linux) that has the toolchain and SDK pre-installed in a complete lightweight Linux distro and ready to run.

I've written an article that details the advantages of this approach along with download and installation instructions. You can find the article at
http://kopsisengineering.com/kopsis/SharpZaurusSdkDsl

I had initially hoped that this solution would be radically simpler than the tool installation itself. I'm not entirely certain that I've succeeded in that. I may just be pushing the complexity into a different area (getting Damn Small Linux and possibly QEMU running) so I'm very interested in getting feedback from anyone who tries my approach.

Note that these tools are for Sharp ROM development only. They will definitely not work for OpenZaurus, and I suspect they won't work for pdaXrom either. If this approach proves to be sufficiently easy for people, then I may try to set up similar DSL based environments for those systems.

Good luck!
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jens
post Apr 24 2006, 12:22 PM
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Hello!

I'm posting both to share experiences and to ask for help/info:

I'm very happy about this ready-setup environment. It's a very good way to go, not only for Zaurus development; all kinds of SDK's could ship a complete system, instead of letting people spend weeks with configuration errors before becoming productive.. I would not have done my things at all if I had to spend that meaningless time! So thanks very much for this.

I have already used the environment to fix a severe map projection error in the Zaurus qpegps GPS application (though I have not yet shipped the fix back to Sourceforge). Now I have just started with another (flight) navigation program, where I have got stuck because NOW I NEED GDB. And it's not part of the environment. Suspect it has to be some special version/release? Can anybody give instructions what/how to install?

And here's the experience list:

- QEMU newer releases can't be started exactly like described. There's some modification to sound handling, which makes it necessary to put something else in the zsdk.bat. Mine is below.

- Immediately found that 128MB memory is too little to compile most real applications. Discovered the parameter in QEMU. 192MB has been enough for all my compiles.

Here's my zsdk.bat file, which works for me:

REM Start qemu on windows.
REM @ECHO OFF
START qemu.exe -L . -m 192 -hda C:\zdev\sharp_zsdk_dsl_disk.img -hdb C:\zdev\qemu\jens.img -soundhw sb16,es1370 -localtime
CLS
EXIT

Hope it helps somebody. And please tell me how to gdb debug...

Cheers
Jens
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kopsis   Sharp Zaurus Sdk The Easy Way   Jul 18 2005, 01:53 PM
lpotter   hey, great idea! We have an sdk iso that we h...   Jul 18 2005, 09:45 PM
daniel3000   QUOTE(lpotter @ Jul 19 2005, 07:45 AM)hey, gr...   Jul 19 2005, 04:12 AM
kopsis   QUOTE(daniel3000 @ Jul 19 2005, 07:12 AM)Howe...   Jul 19 2005, 08:07 AM
Orchid   Here are my first comments about your document (wh...   Jul 26 2005, 03:04 AM
Gondola   Kopsis, I installed QEMU and the Sharp/Qtopia dev...   Aug 9 2005, 12:44 PM
drakecoldwinter   Humm... I tried Suse with the rpm Zaurus tools(hal...   Aug 17 2005, 09:09 AM
drakecoldwinter   4 - DSL is installed on my hd, I have a sda1 now, ...   Aug 17 2005, 09:25 AM
magicbb   just install everything according to your instruct...   Aug 24 2005, 08:21 AM
slapout   Wow Kopsis, this sounds great. I was just about to...   Aug 24 2005, 12:12 PM
Ragnorok   QUOTE(slapout @ Aug 24 2005, 08:12 PM)Wow Kop...   Oct 26 2005, 08:29 AM
GadgetGuy   I have installed QEMU and the Sharp environment on...   Oct 26 2005, 10:40 AM
titimoby   In fact, I decided to register to the oesf forums ...   Nov 10 2005, 02:00 PM
bluedevils   woohoo! this might mean I can get rid of my r...   Aug 24 2005, 12:17 PM
slapout   Great work kopsis. I was finally able to get a Z p...   Aug 26 2005, 07:57 AM
qx773   Thanks for the information. I have Windows XP. ...   Aug 27 2005, 03:36 AM
slapout   Kopsis, I've got a question about the boot...   Aug 30 2005, 10:35 AM
slapout   OK, I think I found the answer in the DSL Forums: ...   Aug 30 2005, 01:04 PM
doseas   kopsis, I keep forgetting to ask... how does your...   Aug 30 2005, 08:31 PM
qx773   If that is the Live CD that I am thinking of, then...   Aug 31 2005, 06:44 PM
Meanie   I think this livecd idea is great coupled with the...   Nov 10 2005, 05:03 PM
kopsis   One of my reasons for picking DSL is that it's...   Nov 11 2005, 04:50 AM
craigtyson   QUOTE(kopsis @ Nov 11 2005, 12:50 PM)One of m...   Nov 11 2005, 08:07 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(craigtyson @ Nov 12 2005, 02:07 AM)QUOT...   Nov 17 2005, 05:41 PM
polito   Ever seen puppy linux, Meanie? Puppy Linux can boo...   Nov 17 2005, 07:35 PM
speculatrix   Now that there's a free version of vmware, is ...   Apr 4 2006, 04:36 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 4 2006, 10:36 PM)Now ...   Apr 4 2006, 04:47 AM
ShiroiKuma   This is really great, I tried to compile the test ...   Apr 6 2006, 03:33 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 6 2006, 09:33 PM)This ...   Apr 6 2006, 04:13 AM
ShiroiKuma   QUOTE(Meanie @ Apr 6 2006, 01:13 PM)it doesn...   Apr 6 2006, 04:41 AM
ShiroiKuma   QUOTE(Meanie @ Apr 6 2006, 01:13 PM)it doesn...   Apr 6 2006, 06:08 AM
qx773   If you are running Linux through QEMU, you can mou...   Apr 6 2006, 06:39 AM
speculatrix   have you tried using samba shares to share files b...   Apr 6 2006, 04:39 AM
ShiroiKuma   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 6 2006, 01:39 PM)have...   Apr 6 2006, 04:49 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 6 2006, 01:49 PM)QUOTE...   Apr 6 2006, 06:55 AM
speculatrix   p.s. google for winscp it's a really easy way ...   Apr 6 2006, 04:40 AM
ShiroiKuma   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 6 2006, 01:40 PM)p.s....   Apr 6 2006, 04:54 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 6 2006, 01:54 PM)Do I ...   Apr 6 2006, 06:57 AM
ShiroiKuma   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 6 2006, 03:57 PM)run ...   Apr 6 2006, 07:04 AM
ArchiMark   Thanks to David for providing 'the easy way to...   Apr 6 2006, 03:21 PM
ShiroiKuma   There seems to be a problem with cross-compiling Z...   Apr 6 2006, 05:07 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 7 2006, 11:07 AM)There...   Apr 6 2006, 05:12 PM
uth   QUOTE(ShiroiKuma @ Apr 6 2006, 09:07 PM)There...   Apr 6 2006, 05:13 PM
matthis   Thank you for your great image! Using it from ...   Apr 21 2006, 07:28 PM
jens   Hello! I'm posting both to share experien...   Apr 24 2006, 12:22 PM
speculatrix   vmware player? I've been playing with DSL ima...   May 12 2006, 02:31 PM
stbrock   QUOTE(speculatrix @ May 12 2006, 06:31 PM)vmw...   May 12 2006, 06:33 PM
wrc4   What's the su password? Is that dsl? I tried t...   Aug 25 2006, 01:08 AM
kopsis   QUOTE(wrc4 @ Aug 25 2006, 04:08 AM)What's...   Aug 25 2006, 03:52 AM
speculatrix   I found it was quite easy to run Kopsis' DSL s...   May 16 2006, 05:00 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(speculatrix @ May 16 2006, 11:00 PM)I f...   May 20 2006, 12:10 AM
lpotter   nice. I might be able to mirror this... after I te...   May 16 2006, 11:29 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(lpotter @ May 16 2006, 08:29 PM)nice. I...   May 17 2006, 02:27 AM
lpotter   actually, if I have time, I might do a nice vmware...   May 19 2006, 10:18 AM
DoTheDog   speculatrix, Very cool stuff. I got it up and runn...   May 28 2006, 06:36 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(DoTheDog @ May 28 2006, 03:36 PM)specul...   May 29 2006, 11:29 AM
malik   hello, i tried the vmware image and it works gre...   Jul 31 2006, 05:01 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(malik @ Jul 31 2006, 02:01 PM)dsl uci s...   Jul 31 2006, 06:40 AM
kopsis   QUOTE(malik @ Jul 31 2006, 08:01 AM)where do ...   Jul 31 2006, 07:13 AM
matthis   I agree that having SDL cross-libs would really be...   Aug 22 2006, 04:58 PM
Dobby   Thanks for this SDK. Looks great. Hopefully try it...   Sep 28 2006, 02:58 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(Dobby @ Sep 28 2006, 11:58 AM)Thanks fo...   Sep 28 2006, 03:18 AM
xjqian   QUOTE(speculatrix @ May 16 2006, 08:00 AM)4) ...   Jan 30 2007, 03:03 AM
xjqian   Thanks kopsis for making the DSL image available. ...   Jan 30 2007, 11:46 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(xjqian @ Jan 30 2007, 08:46 PM)Well, I ...   Jan 30 2007, 02:09 PM
speculatrix   *bump* for those who don't want to play with ...   Sep 24 2007, 12:38 PM


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