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dhns
post Dec 20 2005, 02:57 AM
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Dear early adopters of the N770,
as a potential platform for some of my Zaurus applications I consider to add Nokia 770 versions.

Since I am still waiting to get one and have to learn the (different) SDK first, I would like to use the time to hear about your experiences compared to a Zaurus.

Some questions coming to my mind:
* how does the display compare (brightness)?
* is the screen resolution of 400x800px a recognizable improvement?
* how good can it be used without a built-in (clamshell) keyboard?
* what about operation time?
* device handling (thicker, thinner, larger, smaller)?
* how stable and complete is the software compared to a Zaurus Sharp/Qtopia ROM?
* how is performance compared to a Zaurus?

Many thanks,

-- hns
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post Jan 11 2006, 07:43 AM
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I look forward to more impressions from you. I currently use my 6000 as a home web machine and wonder how it stacks up. This was purchased at a simlar price to the msrp of the nokia and has built in wifi. The main hardware diff would then be the keyboard, display width and built in bluetooth.
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post Jan 14 2006, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(bluedevils @ Jan 11 2006, 04:43 PM)
I look forward to more impressions from you.
*

Now,
after some days of getting used how to operate the N770 here are some more impressions (compared to SL5500G, C860 and C3000).

First and very important note: my N770 uses software version 3.2005.51-13 which is the latest available dated 31 Dec 2005 (http://europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,,79636,00.html)

Here the positive impressions:

+ works right out of the box for WLAN
+ has very good WLAN sensitivity - much better than my G4 Powerbook
+ sleep mode has a nice solution - sleeps after approx. 30 seconds and wakes up when touching the screen or removing the cover
+ screen-keyboard comes up when needed (at least mostly)
+ slightly thinner than a C860 (60% without cover, 80% with)
+ It was very easy to install Xterm through the Browser and a WLAN connection.
Takes approx. 5 minutes to enable WLAN,
type (see below) http://www.maemo.org,
locate the X-term package within the downloads,
click the link to download, and choose a location to store it in memory,
find the downloaded package in the file manager and double-click.
That is all.
+ Managing the WLAN-connection is easy but still slightly more complex than on MacOS X (e.g. you have to reselect the network from time to time while MacOS X remembers networks)

Neutral:

O larger display makes no noticeable difference for Web-Pages
O Screen layout is so that the active area for application windows (e.g. the Xterm or a Web page) is not larger than on a Zaurus
O same width&height as C860 + SanDisk WLAN card
O Speed is the same (in average). Some functions feel to be slower others faster but there is no specific pattern (I have not timed anything in detail).

Drawbacks:

- protection Cover is difficult to handle - you have to unplug the N770 from the charger to remove the cover; and removing it separates the device completely into two parts which is more difficult to manipulate (needs two hands) than the C860/C3100 twistable display
- typing on the screen keyboard is not really optimized. Important characters like : and * are only available by using the shift key. It is *very* difficult to type UNIX commands into the Xterm. For that, a Zaurus is unbeatable
- Software is focussed around Web surfing. To have a decent PIM, you have to install GPE-calendar etc. first.

So, my first impression:
* good device (I don't see the word excellent fit compared to a Zaurus)
* good software, mostly stable
* a Zaurus is much better and easier to use if you want to type and take notes on your portable device (Terminal, Text-Editor)
* Any PDA is better for PIM applications (this might change of course by a new software download)
* is better suited for connectivity
* larger screen resolution and size doesn't make a significant difference in daily life
* expandability of the Zaurus is much more advanced (has SD and CF slots); The Zaurus SD slot is much easier to operate
* a Zaurus gives a more advanced mechanical impression

Finally, I come to the conclusion that a Zaurus C3100 with built-in WLAN and Bluetooth could cost twice a Nokia N770 and I would still prefer a Zaurus... (Sharp - do you listen???)

The next things I will try with it (unfortunately my WLAN access point is broken):
* how to access the Xserver from external or how to access an external Xserver (i.e. use my Mac as a large screen and keyboard)
* how to write software, compile and install from a non-Linux system (i.e. Mac & Xcode)

-- hns
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dhns   What Are Your N770 Experiences Compared To Zaurus?   Dec 20 2005, 02:57 AM
lardman   A quick response QUOTE* how does the display comp...   Dec 20 2005, 07:06 AM
fpp   QUOTE* how does the display compare (brightness)? ...   Dec 20 2005, 09:35 AM
mk500   QUOTE* how does the display compare (brightness)? ...   Dec 20 2005, 11:41 AM
adf   .02 I played with one for a little while at compus...   Dec 20 2005, 06:28 PM
fpp   QUOTE(adf @ Dec 20 2005, 06:28 PM)  I wo...   Dec 21 2005, 01:36 AM
dhns   QUOTE(fpp @ Dec 21 2005, 10:36 AM)so.... :-)....   Dec 21 2005, 07:48 AM
fpp   QUOTE(dhns @ Dec 21 2005, 07:48 AM)... it aga...   Dec 21 2005, 01:36 PM
mk500   QUOTE(dhns @ Dec 21 2005, 07:48 AM)QUOTE(fpp ...   Dec 21 2005, 04:26 PM
mk500   QUOTE(adf @ Dec 20 2005, 06:28 PM)I wonder if...   Dec 21 2005, 04:58 PM
dhns   So, I finally received my N770. Here some very fir...   Jan 11 2006, 06:36 AM
bluedevils   I look forward to more impressions from you. I cu...   Jan 11 2006, 07:43 AM
dhns   QUOTE(bluedevils @ Jan 11 2006, 04:43 PM)I lo...   Jan 14 2006, 07:29 AM
Gondola   I've been using my Nokia 770 for a few days no...   Jan 14 2006, 03:36 PM
lardman   Make sure you upgrade to the latest flash image as...   Jan 11 2006, 08:51 AM
slackwaresupport   how good have you gotten to know it?? i just got o...   Jan 14 2006, 05:32 PM
Gondola   QUOTE(slackwaresupport @ Jan 15 2006, 01:32 A...   Jan 15 2006, 02:42 PM
dhns   So, now here some more experiences with the N770. ...   Jan 20 2006, 12:17 PM
Gondola   dhns: I had to flash into R&D mode (see the W...   Jan 21 2006, 02:33 PM
dhns   QUOTE(Gondola @ Jan 21 2006, 11:33 PM)I had t...   Jan 22 2006, 04:10 AM
lardman   QUOTEBut I have some difficulties with the power d...   Jan 22 2006, 05:52 AM
dhns   So, here again experiences. This time with softwar...   Jan 23 2006, 06:20 AM
mars   Here are some of my initial thoughts on the the No...   Feb 8 2006, 10:17 AM
lardman   QUOTE* Seems that applications have to be modified...   Feb 8 2006, 11:31 AM
mars   QUOTEThey have to be modified if they are to be la...   Feb 8 2006, 11:56 AM
lardman   QUOTEWould they have the same problem like the por...   Feb 9 2006, 04:00 AM


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