Dec 28 2005, 06:00 PM
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EDIT 20070502 - working on Angstrom in chroot without patching kernel, package coming sometime.
--- http://www.tomtom.com/page.php?Page=gpl my wife bought me a TomTom GO 300, and I discovered that it runs linux when I, naturally, googled to see what hacks had been done. I was quite surprised to find it ran linux. interestingly, TT originally used 2.4.18 but now 2.6.10. they provide useful downloads and all the patches for the kernel, so those with a particular predilection for low-level hackery might find that page interesting or useful.... especially if it'd be possible to use TT's bluetooth hands-free system. all we need now is to hack a GPS receiver into our Zauruses along with wifi and bluetooth, and we've got it made! oh yeah, there's an OpenTom project too: http://www.opentom.org/index.php/Main_Page |
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Mar 9 2006, 10:11 AM
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This really is exciting! I agree with Tovarish, a good GPS application would be a killer app (for me anyway
Have you thought about adding a link to your page for sponcership? I think that this is a really worth while project and would support it. Its probably fairly unlikely but you could even point out the size of the Japanese Z market to TomTom and see if they'd also sponcer you.... |
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Mar 9 2006, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(ltrm @ Mar 9 2006, 07:11 PM) This really is exciting! I agree with Tovarish, a good GPS application would be a killer app (for me anyway Have you thought about adding a link to your page for sponcership? I think that this is a really worth while project and would support it. Its probably fairly unlikely but you could even point out the size of the Japanese Z market to TomTom and see if they'd also sponcer you.... The snag here is that I am treading a thin line with TT's s/w rights... because I own a GO 300 I figure that I am simply seeking to allow me to run the software on an alternative device. As I understand it, the maps and stuff are all locked to the device hardware (it tries to read a specific section of flash to get the device ID), possibly even encrypted using a key unique to the device. Now, I am created "look-alike" devices/files which will make the ttn think it's running on a GO 300, *but* it will be running on a copy of *my* device. If I then released a file system dump, it'd mean everyone would be using my license key which would be a Bad Thing. If I get it running, I can tell people how to do it, and if they have a GO, they can use their own licenses! And if they want to donate a beer, that's fine. If I can turn round to TT and say "look, it's really easy, why not release it for the Zaurus, it will run with very little modification", then maybe they will - if enough Z users ask! Maybe we should ask them anyway - or maybe there's no way they could lock it down? Does each Z have a unique ID somehow? From vague memory, the Picsel browser is somehow locked to the memory card they supply it on? This post has been edited by speculatrix: Mar 9 2006, 10:40 AM |
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Mar 9 2006, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE The snag here is that I am treading a thin line with TT's s/w rights... because I own a GO 300 I figure that I am simply seeking to allow me to run the software on an alternative device. As I understand it, the maps and stuff are all locked to the device hardware (it tries to read a specific section of flash to get the device ID), possibly even encrypted using a key unique to the device. Now, I am created "look-alike" devices/files which will make the ttn think it's running on a GO 300, *but* it will be running on a copy of *my* device. If I then released a file system dump, it'd mean everyone would be using my license key which would be a Bad Thing. I thought that something like this might be the case. The best scenario for me would be if the Z did have something (processor id?) that could be used as a key so that I could just buy the closed source map data from TT and use it with the open source software. I fully understand TT wanting to keep control of that. Since they do sell software only packages for other platforms I guess there is an outside chance they might go for just selling the maps, unsupported, on SD if they could still DRM it somehow. As for time scales, I'm not too fussy about that. Just knowing it was possible would be enough for me to start pestering TT Failing getting a legal working copy on my 860, I think that I'm going to have to get a symbian phone and run GPS software on there. Seems like a shame to miss out on the Zaurus screen though.... |
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speculatrix Working Tomtom Nav On Angstrom Dec 28 2005, 06:00 PM
loc4me That is pretty neat. I am thinking of getting one ... Dec 28 2005, 07:21 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(loc4me @ Dec 29 2005, 04:21 AM)That is ... Dec 29 2005, 02:38 AM
loc4me Thanks for the info. That is kinda what i have rea... Dec 29 2005, 08:49 AM
Mickeyl The TomTom guys did some good things to bluez and ... Dec 30 2005, 04:41 AM
speculatrix Update.
I haven't checked it carefully yet, b... Jan 1 2006, 05:37 AM
loc4me QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jan 1 2006, 08:37 AM)Upda... Jan 1 2006, 10:25 AM
speculatrix I got this message off the opentom mailing list fr... Jan 4 2006, 05:00 AM
albertr That's great news, indeed! Good to hear th... Jan 4 2006, 05:26 AM
albertr speculatrix,
Just curious if it would be possible... Jan 4 2006, 05:29 AM
loc4me QUOTE(albertr @ Jan 4 2006, 08:29 AM)speculat... Jan 4 2006, 07:19 PM

speculatrix QUOTE(loc4me @ Jan 5 2006, 04:19 AM)Also what... Jan 4 2006, 11:50 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(albertr @ Jan 4 2006, 02:29 PM)Just cur... Jan 4 2006, 11:55 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(albertr @ Jan 4 2006, 02:29 PM)Just cur... Jan 10 2006, 03:08 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(albertr @ Jan 4 2006, 02:29 PM)Just cur... Oct 3 2006, 01:11 PM
speculatrix you can download the update image for the TomTom G... Jan 5 2006, 09:37 AM
speculatrix yup... there's a program to do it:
http://svn.... Jan 5 2006, 02:49 PM
chiark Sorry for the daft question, but does this mean it... Jan 23 2006, 02:05 AM
speculatrix I note that the only kernel module is the sd.ko fi... Jan 5 2006, 02:54 PM
Mickeyl QUOTEI note that the only kernel module is the sd.... Jan 22 2006, 04:06 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(Mickeyl @ Jan 23 2006, 01:06 AM)QUOTEI ... Jan 23 2006, 12:03 AM
DrWowe QUOTE(Mickeyl @ Jan 22 2006, 06:06 PM)We have... Jan 30 2006, 12:53 PM
gab74 i've a C3100 with Cacko ROM. I'm very inte... Jan 16 2006, 11:39 AM
speculatrix I had a go at getting tomtom nav to run on my 860;... Jan 23 2006, 04:28 AM
speculatrix I started a WIKI entry for GPS in general.
http:/... Jan 29 2006, 03:06 PM
chiark Sorry to hear that . At least there seems to be ... Jan 30 2006, 01:08 AM
speculatrix Life has been "interesting" as of late..... Mar 8 2006, 02:23 PM
speculatrix I should add that ttn barely opens the framebuffer... Mar 8 2006, 02:42 PM
speculatrix ha! copied across tinylogin + the softlink to ... Mar 8 2006, 03:36 PM
tovarish wow but you are indeed making progress. why dont y... Mar 9 2006, 12:26 AM
speculatrix p.s. there's also the matter of time, which I ... Mar 9 2006, 10:42 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(speculatrix @ Mar 9 2006, 07:42 PM)p.s.... Mar 14 2006, 03:20 PM
Tarquin Before I start getting too excited about this, is ... Mar 24 2006, 07:31 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(Tarquin @ Mar 24 2006, 04:31 PM)Before ... Mar 27 2006, 09:58 PM
speculatrix BTW, there was recently a positive step on Opentom... Mar 27 2006, 10:00 PM
Da_Blitz At the moment i have a copy of the SD_Pysical_Spec... Mar 29 2006, 06:12 PM
speculatrix this update has been a long time coming... having ... Apr 10 2006, 05:47 AM
Da_Blitz I would say that perhaps it has some stuff to do w... Apr 14 2006, 08:05 PM
speculatrix strace has worked its magic and I found that the e... Apr 17 2006, 02:10 PM
Mickeyl Exciting stuff, thanks for keeping us posted! Apr 17 2006, 02:17 PM
scoutme what's the actual status at this time? Jul 5 2006, 06:27 AM
speculatrix I had to sell my 860, so I had to start again with... Jul 5 2006, 06:40 AM
koen QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jul 5 2006, 02:40 PM)I am... Jul 5 2006, 06:46 AM

speculatrix QUOTE(koen @ Jul 5 2006, 03:46 PM)QUOTE(specu... Jul 5 2006, 07:28 AM

speculatrix QUOTE(koen @ Jul 5 2006, 03:46 PM)QUOTE(specu... Jul 24 2006, 01:30 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jul 5 2006, 03:40 PM)Of c... Jul 24 2006, 01:32 PM
speculatrix I have resumed work, now using OZ 3.5.4.1-beta-ker... Jul 25 2006, 04:08 AM
Mickeyl Which protocol does the tomtom software expect on ... Jul 27 2006, 09:27 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(Mickeyl @ Jul 27 2006, 06:27 PM)Which p... Jul 28 2006, 12:42 AM
LukeLuke this tomtom that you using is replaced by a TOMTOM... Jul 28 2006, 12:47 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(LukeLuke @ Jul 28 2006, 09:47 AM)this t... Jul 28 2006, 02:11 AM
LukeLuke why not use the source ?
Bye Jul 28 2006, 02:40 AM
Da_Blitz Well what do you know, they provide the source cod... Jul 28 2006, 03:15 AM
Mickeyl Of course they need to provide the source, it... Jul 28 2006, 05:36 AM
Da_Blitz But is this for the software or the kernel, from ... Jul 29 2006, 05:45 AM
koen QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Jul 29 2006, 01:45 PM)But is... Jul 29 2006, 05:56 AM
Da_Blitz thats a shame, linux could really do with some goo... Jul 30 2006, 04:51 AM
speculatrix I appreciate it's been a while, folks, but I... Sep 30 2006, 02:20 PM
offthefront QUOTE(speculatrix @ Sep 30 2006, 10:20 PM)and... Oct 2 2006, 03:01 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(offthefront @ Oct 2 2006, 12:01 PM)QUOT... Oct 2 2006, 04:53 AM
speculatrix photo added to http://www.zaurus.org.uk/opentom/in... Oct 2 2006, 01:23 PM
Lurker Awesome!
::drooooooooool::
Will any map card... Oct 2 2006, 03:16 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(Lurker @ Oct 3 2006, 12:16 AM)Will any ... Oct 3 2006, 03:12 AM
speculatrix video on youtube of the Z running ttn in demo mode... Oct 6 2006, 06:41 AM
harvell Nice... does it talk to you? Oct 6 2006, 07:09 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(harvell @ Oct 6 2006, 04:09 PM)Nice... ... Oct 6 2006, 01:27 PM
speculatrix Things are definitely getting a bit hotter with To... Oct 17 2006, 07:30 AM
xamindar Wow, cool. So what are the requirements to get th... Oct 17 2006, 08:08 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(xamindar @ Oct 17 2006, 05:08 PM)Wow, c... Oct 17 2006, 08:52 AM
koen QUOTE(speculatrix @ Oct 17 2006, 04:52 PM)alt... Oct 17 2006, 08:55 AM
speculatrix I have permission to publish the website of the li... Oct 17 2006, 08:42 AM
koen QUOTE(speculatrix @ Oct 17 2006, 04:42 PM)I h... Oct 17 2006, 09:14 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(koen @ Oct 17 2006, 06:14 PM)QUOTE(spec... Oct 17 2006, 09:23 AM
koen QUOTE(speculatrix @ Oct 17 2006, 05:23 PM)QUO... Oct 17 2006, 09:41 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(koen @ Oct 17 2006, 06:41 PM)I haven... Oct 17 2006, 12:18 PM
speculatrix I see that the Nokia 770 tablet is going to have a... Oct 17 2006, 08:54 AM
koen If you have gpsd you can have a much lighter solut... Oct 17 2006, 12:59 PM
zaurick I'm searching people who can help me to port t... Nov 3 2006, 01:03 PM
Ling I am interested in this and would like to get the ... Dec 28 2006, 10:07 AM
Da_Blitz so how exactlly are they outputting sound? is it a... Dec 28 2006, 06:11 PM
zaurick QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Dec 29 2006, 03:11 AM)so how... Dec 29 2006, 12:00 AM
offthefront I think I have all the bits together to give this ... Dec 29 2006, 06:20 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(offthefront @ Dec 29 2006, 03:20 PM)I t... Dec 30 2006, 06:39 AM
Da_Blitz coolsound seems to be an alsa device, hmmm
why no... Dec 29 2006, 10:54 PM
zaurick QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Dec 30 2006, 07:54 AM)coolso... Jan 4 2007, 08:46 AM
Da_Blitz i assume that there needs to be a bind mount on th... Dec 30 2006, 04:35 PM
speculatrix QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Dec 31 2006, 01:35 AM)i assu... Jan 1 2007, 06:19 AM
Da_Blitz troust me a bind mount of dev and a remount of pro... Jan 6 2007, 03:40 AM
Ling Speculatrix,
Is there any update on this since Mr... Feb 25 2007, 03:54 PM
xjqian I've bought a Tomtom go 700 specifically for t... Mar 4 2007, 01:09 PM
scoutme any news? I'd like to test, and I have all I n... Apr 3 2007, 04:51 PM
the2nd QUOTE(scoutme @ Apr 4 2007, 01:51 AM)any news... Apr 15 2007, 09:39 AM
portalgod QUOTE(the2nd @ Apr 15 2007, 10:39 AM)QUOTE(sc... May 11 2007, 06:45 AM
speculatrix I've got OZ 3.5.4.1 running stably on my 3100 ... May 13 2007, 01:30 PM
tetrabit Let's wait for this how-to
QUOTE(speculatri... Jun 1 2007, 12:52 AM
speculatrix OK, a quick update. OZ 3.5.4.1 will NOT run zomtom... Jun 1 2007, 01:27 AM
Da_Blitz wahhoooo!!! Jun 2 2007, 04:32 AM![]() ![]() |
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