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> Announcement: New Zaurus Software Index Online, Based on Killefiz database and design
post Jan 28 2006, 02:56 AM
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Dear Community,

there have been just 7 new entries on ELSIX since beginning of December 2005 and the last contribution in this board goes back to September, we have thought that it is time for a fresh approach we want to donate to the community.

Looking back, Killefiz was a very popular database before it was more or less abandoned by its moderator (although there have been some 10 updates in last year and 20 more this January). After that, ELSIX was started with great efforts, the killefiz dtaabase was integrated and authors updated their applications. But if you look at the statistics, it is by far less popular than killefiz.

We think this might have several reasons (as discussed here before): missing ease of use in operating the system for software developers and Zaurus user and missing links from this forum to ELSIX. We think that the main purpose must be a communication platform between people (authors and potential users) so it must be designed to ease communication.

Therefore we thought that a different approach is required and have worked on new tool and hope that it gains more acceptance. To do that we have

* copied the clean layout of Killefiz (as much information on one page - but still easy to read)
* added logins to allow users to subscribe to change requests and to write comments
* allows users to get moderator status - this allows a more community based approach in approving changes and is no longer on the shoulders of a single person
* improved management of screenshots
* imported the Killefiz data (status December - but only the approved entries) Thanks to Sven!!

After some hard work we are now happy to make it public:


So, please

* use the database
* bookmark it
* link to it on your pages
* tell everybody you know about it
* ask others to link to it
* start submitting updates and new software
* mark old entries
* note on bugs
* make proposals for improvement
* ask to become moderator
* sponsor this effort by looking at the www.handheld-linux.com shop

Comments welcome!

Nikolaus Schaller
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post Jan 28 2006, 09:44 PM
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If the community agrees, I can shut down elsi. If this new site is what you guys want and it works better, than we'll adapt to this one.

I don't want to get into a long debate about anything, just because there's nothing to say that hasn't been said. I'm just happy that someone who has more time than I has decided to step forward and actually do something about it rather than just sit and complain that elsi wasn't good.

Nikolaus, if your developer PMs me I have a list of ideas that Mike and I originally had for the elsi that I can pass onto you guys that you hopefully can do.

Good luck with it. Hopefully we can all agree on one definite one and stick with that.

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post Feb 1 2006, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(dz @ Jan 28 2006, 07:44 PM)
If the community agrees, I can shut down elsi.  If this new site is what you guys want and it works better, than we'll adapt to this one.

nothing wrong with elsix, imo. The issue is trying to code it, which takes time. Elsix is an ambitious project, and like any project, needs people to work on it.

The basic info in Elsix is fine, just the interface isn't as enticing as killefiz. Unfortunately, after a while, he no longer responded to changes. I tried to update the info there, but it never went anywhere.

Elsix at least has a lot of updated info.

I suppose I can yet again, try to work on updating info on this new site. I think it would be prudent to first ask killefiz if it's okay if we copied his layout.
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handheld-linux   Announcement: New Zaurus Software Index Online   Jan 28 2006, 02:56 AM
tombraider   This is great! Thank you, thank you. Have al...   Jan 28 2006, 04:30 AM
Cresho   ohh my god! this is exactly what i needed. I...   Jan 28 2006, 05:25 AM
pgas   Cool, so now we have: - an index that is old and ...   Jan 28 2006, 07:40 AM
rokugo   OK, this is rather embarassing to admit, but after...   Jan 28 2006, 09:14 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(pgas @ Jan 28 2006, 04:40 PM)I don...   Feb 2 2006, 01:12 AM
Cresho   you are absolutly right pgas. but maybee this one...   Jan 28 2006, 07:50 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(Cresho @ Jan 28 2006, 04:50 PM)the prob...   Feb 2 2006, 01:13 AM
xamindar   Good to hear that there is a new source of zaurus ...   Jan 28 2006, 11:13 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jan 28 2006, 08:13 PM)There ...   Feb 2 2006, 01:17 AM
rrnwexec   Perhaps this information could be collected by way...   Mar 20 2006, 11:33 AM
dz   If the community agrees, I can shut down elsi. If...   Jan 28 2006, 09:44 PM
ken   QUOTE(dz @ Jan 28 2006, 07:44 PM)If the commu...   Feb 1 2006, 11:57 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(dz @ Jan 29 2006, 06:44 AM)Nikolaus, if...   Feb 2 2006, 01:18 AM
bluedevils   roy, elsix.org was very much appreciated by me an...   Jan 29 2006, 05:18 AM
Cresho   Nothing wrong with elsix. Just nobody knew about ...   Jan 29 2006, 11:24 AM
cybersphinx   Nice. Hopefully we'll get one maintained Softw...   Feb 1 2006, 11:10 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(cybersphinx @ Feb 1 2006, 08:10 PM)The ...   Feb 2 2006, 01:20 AM
ken   Seriously, it's his interface that he created....   Feb 2 2006, 06:07 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(ken @ Feb 3 2006, 03:07 AM)Seriously, i...   Feb 2 2006, 10:27 PM
ken   QUOTE(handheld-linux @ Feb 2 2006, 08:27...   Feb 3 2006, 05:11 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(ken @ Feb 3 2006, 03:07 AM)While it doe...   Feb 2 2006, 10:30 PM
bluedevils   totally agree with cresho. Do a google on zaurus ...   Feb 1 2006, 01:50 PM
rokugo   The new software site is still not getting any hit...   Feb 20 2006, 09:25 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(rokugo @ Feb 21 2006, 06:25 AM)The new ...   Feb 20 2006, 10:29 PM
ralphrmartin   How about putting entries from the Zaurus Treasure...   Feb 21 2006, 01:22 AM
matthis   I'd say he the biggest problem is that no new ...   Feb 27 2006, 04:15 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(matthis @ Feb 28 2006, 01:15 AM)I'd...   Mar 19 2006, 03:28 AM
cre8nlove   The new software site ... And as we all know, if i...   Mar 18 2006, 04:04 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(cre8nlove @ Mar 19 2006, 01:04 AM)The n...   Mar 19 2006, 03:39 AM
brashley46   I doubt you'll find any converted to English y...   Mar 22 2006, 07:01 PM
DaemonsGR   QUOTE(cre8nlove @ Mar 19 2006, 02:04 AM)The n...   Mar 23 2006, 12:23 AM
Cresho   made a backup image with english support. downloa...   Apr 4 2006, 09:49 PM
handheld-linux   Hi all, the Zaurus Software Index http://www.handh...   May 2 2007, 11:32 PM
daniel3000   Hello Nikolaus, what a coincidence, in my next em...   May 3 2007, 04:18 AM

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