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handheld-linux
post Jan 28 2006, 02:56 AM
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Dear Community,

there have been just 7 new entries on ELSIX since beginning of December 2005 and the last contribution in this board goes back to September, we have thought that it is time for a fresh approach we want to donate to the community.

Looking back, Killefiz was a very popular database before it was more or less abandoned by its moderator (although there have been some 10 updates in last year and 20 more this January). After that, ELSIX was started with great efforts, the killefiz dtaabase was integrated and authors updated their applications. But if you look at the statistics, it is by far less popular than killefiz.

We think this might have several reasons (as discussed here before): missing ease of use in operating the system for software developers and Zaurus user and missing links from this forum to ELSIX. We think that the main purpose must be a communication platform between people (authors and potential users) so it must be designed to ease communication.

Therefore we thought that a different approach is required and have worked on new tool and hope that it gains more acceptance. To do that we have

* copied the clean layout of Killefiz (as much information on one page - but still easy to read)
* added logins to allow users to subscribe to change requests and to write comments
* allows users to get moderator status - this allows a more community based approach in approving changes and is no longer on the shoulders of a single person
* improved management of screenshots
* imported the Killefiz data (status December - but only the approved entries) Thanks to Sven!!

After some hard work we are now happy to make it public:

http://www.handheld-linux.com/swi/index.php

So, please

* use the database
* bookmark it
* link to it on your pages
* tell everybody you know about it
* ask others to link to it
* start submitting updates and new software
* mark old entries
* note on bugs
* make proposals for improvement
* ask to become moderator
* sponsor this effort by looking at the www.handheld-linux.com shop

Comments welcome!

Nikolaus Schaller
http://www.handheld-linux.com
Germany
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cybersphinx
post Feb 1 2006, 11:10 AM
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Nice. Hopefully we'll get one maintained Software Index soon.

The RSS feed has a little problem though: The links are missing a '/' and have an 's' too much.
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post Feb 2 2006, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(cybersphinx @ Feb 1 2006, 08:10 PM)
The RSS feed has a little problem though: The links are missing a '/' and have an 's' too much.
Many thanks! We will fix that.
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post Feb 2 2006, 06:07 PM
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Seriously, it's his interface that he created. Not to get his permission is definitely a no no and goes against the spirit of things. You need to get his permission imo.

He can choose not to respond at all and it'd be his right. I'm sure having his old site there generates quite a lot of traffic.

You may want to consider a separate domain name rather than something so long (something easier to remember).

Also, elsix suffered from people knowing about it. Which would be the same issue your website would have.

While it does have the benefit of a simple interface, I'm sure the old issues that killefiz had would come about (spammed entries) which took up a lot of his time.

That's something that elsix addressed.

Please make a concerted effort to contact him.
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post Feb 2 2006, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(ken @ Feb 3 2006, 03:07 AM)
Seriously, it's his interface that he created.  Not to get his permission is definitely a no no and goes against the spirit of things.  You need to get his permission imo.

He can choose not to respond at all and it'd be his right.  I'm sure having his old site there generates quite a lot of traffic.

Please make a concerted effort to contact him.
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I do not know how the impression came up that we did not talk to him about the interface before switching the new system online. The author of Killefiz even told us that he himself doesn't like it anymore himself - but we do...

Where we did not get a response yet is about installing a link or forward from his address because we did not have this idea before.

And of course he is free to respond or not. As free as he is to switch killefiz off over night. Or to restart maintaining it regularly. It is a voluntary community.

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Nikolaus Schaller
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handheld-linux   Announcement: New Zaurus Software Index Online   Jan 28 2006, 02:56 AM
tombraider   This is great! Thank you, thank you. Have al...   Jan 28 2006, 04:30 AM
Cresho   ohh my god! this is exactly what i needed. I...   Jan 28 2006, 05:25 AM
pgas   Cool, so now we have: - an index that is old and ...   Jan 28 2006, 07:40 AM
rokugo   OK, this is rather embarassing to admit, but after...   Jan 28 2006, 09:14 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(pgas @ Jan 28 2006, 04:40 PM)I don...   Feb 2 2006, 01:12 AM
Cresho   you are absolutly right pgas. but maybee this one...   Jan 28 2006, 07:50 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(Cresho @ Jan 28 2006, 04:50 PM)the prob...   Feb 2 2006, 01:13 AM
xamindar   Good to hear that there is a new source of zaurus ...   Jan 28 2006, 11:13 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(xamindar @ Jan 28 2006, 08:13 PM)There ...   Feb 2 2006, 01:17 AM
rrnwexec   Perhaps this information could be collected by way...   Mar 20 2006, 11:33 AM
dz   If the community agrees, I can shut down elsi. If...   Jan 28 2006, 09:44 PM
ken   QUOTE(dz @ Jan 28 2006, 07:44 PM)If the commu...   Feb 1 2006, 11:57 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(dz @ Jan 29 2006, 06:44 AM)Nikolaus, if...   Feb 2 2006, 01:18 AM
bluedevils   roy, elsix.org was very much appreciated by me an...   Jan 29 2006, 05:18 AM
Cresho   Nothing wrong with elsix. Just nobody knew about ...   Jan 29 2006, 11:24 AM
cybersphinx   Nice. Hopefully we'll get one maintained Softw...   Feb 1 2006, 11:10 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(cybersphinx @ Feb 1 2006, 08:10 PM)The ...   Feb 2 2006, 01:20 AM
ken   Seriously, it's his interface that he created....   Feb 2 2006, 06:07 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(ken @ Feb 3 2006, 03:07 AM)Seriously, i...   Feb 2 2006, 10:27 PM
ken   QUOTE(handheld-linux @ Feb 2 2006, 08:27...   Feb 3 2006, 05:11 AM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(ken @ Feb 3 2006, 03:07 AM)While it doe...   Feb 2 2006, 10:30 PM
bluedevils   totally agree with cresho. Do a google on zaurus ...   Feb 1 2006, 01:50 PM
rokugo   The new software site is still not getting any hit...   Feb 20 2006, 09:25 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(rokugo @ Feb 21 2006, 06:25 AM)The new ...   Feb 20 2006, 10:29 PM
ralphrmartin   How about putting entries from the Zaurus Treasure...   Feb 21 2006, 01:22 AM
matthis   I'd say he the biggest problem is that no new ...   Feb 27 2006, 04:15 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(matthis @ Feb 28 2006, 01:15 AM)I'd...   Mar 19 2006, 03:28 AM
cre8nlove   The new software site ... And as we all know, if i...   Mar 18 2006, 04:04 PM
handheld-linux   QUOTE(cre8nlove @ Mar 19 2006, 01:04 AM)The n...   Mar 19 2006, 03:39 AM
brashley46   I doubt you'll find any converted to English y...   Mar 22 2006, 07:01 PM
DaemonsGR   QUOTE(cre8nlove @ Mar 19 2006, 02:04 AM)The n...   Mar 23 2006, 12:23 AM
Cresho   made a backup image with english support. downloa...   Apr 4 2006, 09:49 PM
handheld-linux   Hi all, the Zaurus Software Index http://www.handh...   May 2 2007, 11:32 PM
daniel3000   Hello Nikolaus, what a coincidence, in my next em...   May 3 2007, 04:18 AM


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