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> Thekompany.com Is Porting It's Progs To The 770!, Pims plus more. It should help a LOT.
neuroshock
post Feb 25 2006, 12:59 AM
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Hey folks,

I've been watching the 770 stuff carefully for the last little while as I'm looking to it for my next venture purchase. My antiquated RCA REB1100 is aging ungracefully lately and I've had my eye on the 770 as a Ebook reader on steroids upgrade. One of the things I've been dissapointed about was the lack of PIM and productivity software available for it right now. I know they aren't positioning themselves in the market against pda's directly but at >$350usd I would REALLY like to get some productivity work out of the thing when I do get around to buying one as well as fun and games.

Soooo I was VERY excited when I checked in for some software upgrades at www.thekompany.com and found that they are busy porting their embedded programs to the Nokia 770 platform! This is HUGE great news as thekompany.com offers PIMS and productivity software that is every bit as good as ANY software on the market for any of the Zaurus models! Okay, I know it's sad but I own EVERY embedded piece of software for both the SL-5500 and clamshell models that they offer. Together they account for about 60-70% of the progs I currently use on my Zaurii. So yes they do cost money (no freeware here) but they are all very reasonably priced for what you get - I've never regretted a single purchase I've made with them yet. The moment they get the basic PIM's ported I'll be a new 770 owner. The rest of their embedded offerings being ported will be just the icing on the cake. =)

By the way - I have no connection whatsoever to thekompany.com in any way shape or form. I AM as I said already a very happy customer however. The only negative about the company I can think of is that if you ever need tech support you will find that the gentleman who responds to all emails (I think he's also the president) is named Shawn and while you'll get good support you'll find he has all the personality of a rock. The good news is however that you purchased the program and intellectual support of their product not someone to make you feel good about yourself.

Maybe I'll be a 770 owner sooner than I thought!

-NeuroShock
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mulveyr
post Feb 25 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(neuroshock @ Feb 25 2006, 04:59 AM)
Hey folks,

I've been watching the 770 stuff carefully for the last little while as I'm looking to it for my next venture purchase. My antiquated RCA REB1100 is aging ungracefully lately and I've had my eye on the 770 as a Ebook reader on steroids upgrade.  One of the things I've been dissapointed about was the lack of PIM and productivity software available for it right now.  I know they aren't positioning themselves in the market against pda's directly but at >$350usd I would REALLY like to get some productivity work out of the thing when I do get around to buying one as well as fun and games.

Soooo I was VERY excited when I checked in for some software upgrades at www.thekompany.com and found that they are busy porting their embedded programs to the Nokia 770 platform!  This is HUGE great news as thekompany.com offers PIMS and productivity software that is every bit as good as ANY software on the market for any of the Zaurus models!  Okay, I know it's sad but I own EVERY embedded piece of software for both the SL-5500 and clamshell models that they offer.  Together they account for about 60-70% of the progs I currently use on my Zaurii. So yes they do cost money (no freeware here) but they are all very reasonably priced for what you get - I've never regretted a single purchase I've made with them yet.  The moment they get the basic PIM's ported I'll be a  new 770 owner.  The rest of their embedded offerings being ported will be just the icing on the cake. =)

By the way - I have no connection whatsoever to thekompany.com in any way shape or form. I AM as I said already a very happy customer however.  The only negative about the company I can think of is that if you ever need tech support you will find that the gentleman who responds to all emails (I think he's also the president) is named Shawn and while you'll get good support you'll find he has all the personality of a rock. The good news is however that you purchased the program and intellectual support of their product not someone to make you feel good about yourself.

Maybe I'll be a 770 owner sooner than I thought!

-NeuroShock
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One thing you'll want to do is to make sure you look at the screen of the 770 you'll purchase *before* you lay down the cash. I bought a 770, mostly for ebook reading... and discovered, much to my dismay, that the LCD backlighting system is really, really bad. I mean, simply awful. There's a tremendous amount of inconsistency - a large dark area on the left side of the screen, and awful stage-light effects and darkening on the right. So much so, that reading an ebook with dark text on a light background was just horrible because of the dark and bright spots.

Just a one-off problem? Nope. All of the other ones at my local CompUSA had the same problem. Then I started seeing other comments about the same problems online. You can see examples of other people's screen at http://www.internettablettalk.com/gallery/...hoto/62/cat/504 , http://www.internettablettalk.com/gallery/...hoto/53/cat/504 for example.

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the C3K's screen, but I ended up taking my 770 back for a refund.
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post Feb 25 2006, 09:18 PM
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I wouldn't really consider the 770 to be an ebook reader on steroids. It does have a large screen, but when using it in ebook mode I don't go fullscreen because the screen is so wide. Also, the best ebook reader for the 770 is fbreader, which is also available on the zaurus I believe -- so you might want to check it out to see if it has the features you need. Fbreader has some nice features, but for me opie-reader has better features and compatibility for the formats I use.

Personally, I like the clamshell formfactor of the C-Zauruses for reading. I can prop the Z on a table or the bed and read without having to hold it.

With respect to thekompany -- let's just say that the majority of the money I spent with them (zaurus and desktop) would have been better off donating to open source projects. The music player and image viewer are okay, but the other apps I purchased disappointed. Don't even get me started on kapital (embedded and desktop) . . .

The GPE pim apps on the 770 are okay, but not too robust.
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post Feb 28 2006, 10:42 PM
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Hey Again,

A quick update - I recieved an email response from Shawn which can be found at the bottom of this post for anyone interested. Oh and I take back the personality comment I made about Shawn -- he was VERY polite and in sunny spirit's this time. That'll teach me to be overly critical!

About the screen lighting issues mentioned:
Hmmm. I hadn't heard about that yet. But as soon as you started describing it I immediately conjured the memory of how the SL-5500 had a dark spot at the top right of the lcd display that irked the snot out of me the whole time I used it. I'll have to look into it and see if it's a deal-breaker for me.

About the comments on TheKompany.com's software:
I guess it's a YMMV thing. Myself, my wife and both children use many of the tkc apps very rigorously, my wife even runs her business out of them exclusively. I can see however that if you were primarily looking to tkc for Video playback and such it would be dissapointing- it's their weakest app as far as I'm concerned. The games, email, PIM progs are all first rate with very little competition at their level imho. I can't really say anything concerning Rekall - it's the only one of their apps that I do not own. It's MUCH more expensive than most of thier offerings and seemed to be massive overkill for my uses.
The negatives that I can think of off the top of my head are things like data sync'ing in the PIM's - it only works on the SL-5500, which would be completely unaccpetable except for the fact that with most ROM's available for the Zaurii right now it is an almost universal problem affecting every other PIM suite I can think of as well to one degree or another. The other negative is that they seem totally unconcerned about releasing thier products in packages that would run off of the most popular Zaurii Rom's in use today. I think he could GREATLY expand their sales if they would simply recompile for the other OS's and work towards porting them to pdaXrom etc. But for now anyway it looks like I'm still stuck with Sharp/Cacko if I'm going to be able to enjoy my investments in their software. =(

I'm still glad to see they are porting to the Nokia 770. It shows good health in the developer's eyes to Nokia in general. I still may end up buying a 770 even with the negative issues simply because I think they'll get those things wrinkled out in future products - I just can't convince myself that a company that is working so hard to help the grass-roots community would turn a deaf ear to the grass-roots complaints and suggestions for improvements in their physical product. And I must admit - compared to Sharps side of things the Grass is DEFINITELY greener on the Nokia 770 side of the fence!

OK...here's that email:

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At 01:10 AM 2/25/2006, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm a longtime customer of your embedded products, (I believe I've
>purchased every available embedded offering you've ever released for both
>the SL-5500 and the clamshell models.) Naturally I was very excited to
>find that you announced on your website on December 5, 2005 that you were
>in the process of porting your embedded offerings to the Nokia 770
>platform! I can't seem to find any further information on your site about
>that though. Can you please tell me what kind of time frame we may be
>looking at for the release of these versions? Also which apps are you
>working on porting first?

Actually we just finished our game tkcPanels (got distracted with a
bunch of VOIP work the last 2 months) yesterday and made it available
for sale, but I'm not announcing it until I get the screenshots up,
just waiting on the webmaster right now.


>Thank you very much, I will be posting your response in the Nokia 770
>forum at the OESF Zaurus forums website so that others will know what's up
>and hopefully generate some excitement for both the 770 platform and
>thekompany.com as well. I think you guys can REALLY fill a whole that is
>left in the PIM and productivity software area for the 770 right now.
>There is GREAT sales potential if you can beat others to the market as
>you'll have complete dominance in this niche. At the VERY least it's
>definitely exciting news - I hope you guys can pull it off.

well, we're trying to figure out what applications make sense for us
to port, I didn't think PIM would sell well on the Zaurus and it
ended up being our biggest seller, so I guess I'm not that great and
understanding the market smile.gif. I'm also trying to arrange with nokia
so that we can sell the devices and at least make them available for
a bit cheaper than at other places, and/or include some piece of
software. Anyway, I appreciate your enthusiasm, and we'll do stuff
as fast as we can, but remember, these are total re-writes of the
applications, there is virtually no code that can just be ported
because the 770 is C based and not C++, it's a bit slow going.

best,
shawn


>Hope to hear from you soon!
>
>-NeuroShock


Regards,

Shawn Gordon
President
theKompany.com
www.thekompany.com
www.mindawn.com
949-713-3276
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Be Safe All,

-NeuroShock
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post Mar 15 2006, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(mulveyr @ Feb 26 2006, 04:15 AM)
    One thing you'll want to do is to make sure you look at the screen of the 770 you'll purchase *before* you lay down the cash.  I bought a 770, mostly for ebook reading... and discovered, much to my dismay, that the LCD backlighting system is really, really bad.  I mean, simply awful.  There's a tremendous amount of inconsistency - a large dark area on the left side of the screen, and awful stage-light effects and darkening on the right.  So much so, that reading an ebook with dark text on a light background was just horrible because of the dark and bright spots.

  Just a one-off problem?  Nope.  All of the other ones at my local CompUSA had the same problem.  Then I started seeing other comments about the same problems online.  You can see examples of other people's screen at http://www.internettablettalk.com/gallery/...hoto/62/cat/504 , http://www.internettablettalk.com/gallery/...hoto/53/cat/504 for example.

  Maybe I'm just spoiled by the C3K's screen, but I ended up taking my 770 back for a refund.
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I use white text on a black background and it's a wonderful ebook device. (FBreader) I've used it for sometimes hours at a time (airplane flights mostly) and the size and display are beautiful. Yes, I know the banding/stage-light effect you're talking about, and it mostly occurs with very bright, monochromatic graphics. Busy, colorful graphics or dark graphics, on the other hand, look great. It's unfortunate that the default color scheme and ebook reader displays are usually black text on white background.
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