 Sd And Sdio Support Coming Into Openbsd, not on Zaurus just yet |
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 Oct 11 2006, 03:28 AM
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QUOTE(coreilly @ Oct 11 2006, 11:19 AM) Hopefully Brett at Conics will realize that if *bsd supports this device relatively well, then some (rich) people out there might be buying them! http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php...68b961f899f96fe I'm pretty sure NetBSD will run perfect on this device, maybe even FreeBSD 6.2. Not sure about OpenBSD. I already told Brett that I would buy one tommorrow (and I'm sure a few of my freinds would buy one also) if he provided me with verification that the keyboard, mouse, video, and sound worked correctly. I could care less about the camera and other little hot keys. The dmesg outputs should provide us with almost everything we need to know. Hopefully he will give it a shot. |
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Oct 11 2006, 04:33 AM
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They will all run *bsd... but support might be crap. That OQO model from jcs laptop page had problems with wireless internet. What wireless device does the Sony use? Also, X11 was messed on the OQO, could be same on Sony.
I'd look for the specs, but I'm at work and these comps suck.. must be 13 years old. |
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Oct 11 2006, 04:40 AM
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OpenBSD support for alot of wireless devices is lacking since they dont accept the whole blob concept (Which is great!), but FreeBSD and the others have a little thing called ndis which allows them to use Microsoft Windows wireless device drivers!
 (I currently use ndis on my HP laptop running FreeBSD) If FreeBSD will load on this device then there shouldn't be any issues with the wireless device in the sony. Bluetooth support in FreeBSD is great so I'm sure this would work also. Alot of the problems seen on the Sony OQO were most likely due to OpenBSD lacking device support. QUOTE(coreilly @ Oct 11 2006, 12:33 PM) They will all run *bsd... but support might be crap. That OQO model from jcs laptop page had problems with wireless internet. What wireless device does the Sony use? Also, X11 was messed on the OQO, could be same on Sony.
I'd look for the specs, but I'm at work and these comps suck.. must be 13 years old. |
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Oct 11 2006, 04:46 AM
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I'm still not sold on this thing... though it would be sweet to have! I dont care about the buttons either on the side, just basic support, x11, wireless, etc. I'll have to look later for the chipset on the Sony.
update: looks like an Intel 3945ABG might be in there, and with Damien's firmware, it would be work in OBSD |
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Oct 11 2006, 05:32 PM
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Hello all,
I'm in HK for ElectronicAsia 12-16th October... I can try these live CDs for you when I get back and send the dmesg. regards, -Brett |
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Oct 11 2006, 07:11 PM
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I'm pretty close to "sold" on those things (not literally as the price is a little ridiculous). I'd need to see some proof that a linux or BSD OS supports the hardware, though. Would be pretty dissapointed to spend the coin on one only to be stuck using Windows on it.
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Oct 11 2006, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(coreilly @ Oct 11 2006, 07:19 AM) Why do I have the feeling that the Sony VGN-UX90PS will never fully support OpenBSD? haha christ we haven't even got everything on the Z working. One thing to keep in mind is that the Vaio UX runs the free VMWare Player and Server very well. Put the virtual machine on a 4GB memory stick, network to the hard disk for more storage, run it full screen, and you've got a snappy Linux handheld laptop -- without install/driver hassles and dead hardware. Power management, suspend/resume, magnifier button and so forth continue in the background in XP. Installing VMware tools (mainly to get faster graphics) in some unsupported distributions isn't documented and can be a hassle, as directory structure varies and it is very picky about how it is compiled. But there are a couple dozen community virtual machines now that come with VMware tools already installed, so you can just download the configurations files and virtual disk and then apt-get to update. No install needed. Fedora, OpenSUSE, DSL and various Ubuntu variants all run well. There are OpenBSD and FreeBSD virtual machines available, but I haven't tried them. Xubuntu seems the best compromise of features and performance to me so far, actually not much of a compromise at all (if you can stand knowing that XP is lurking beneath). |
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Oct 12 2006, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE(conicsnet @ Oct 12 2006, 01:32 AM) Hello all, I'm in HK for ElectronicAsia 12-16th October... I can try these live CDs for you when I get back and send the dmesg. regards, -Brett Brett you are awesome! Thanks for doing what you do!!! QUOTE There are OpenBSD and FreeBSD virtual machines available I couldn't/wouldn't except a virtual machine install of OpenBSD with MS Windows running in the back ground. The whole MS thing would drive me bonkers and is one of the reasons why I bought a Zaurii over the HP Jornada 720 PDA which NetBSD supports. It has to be the real deal for me. QUOTE I'm pretty close to "sold" on those things (not literally as the price is a little ridiculous). I'd need to see some proof that a linux or BSD OS supports the hardware, though. Would be pretty dissapointed to spend the coin on one only to be stuck using Windows on it. I've trusted Brett at https://conics.net/ with over $1K of my money and have never had any issues regarding honesty, so if he says that the device works with the LiveCD's I'll take his word for it. I'll buy one and then post my results.(I'll take one for the team )
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Oct 12 2006, 04:51 AM
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I agree with math, I had a shipment of stuff from Brett go wrong and he was unbelieveably quick in correcting the problem. I would have no problem buying stuff from conics if Brett says it works.
Then again I am so tempted by the new UX90 with 32gig Flash Memory Drive... maybe it's not a good idea. |
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Oct 12 2006, 05:44 AM
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QUOTE(coreilly @ Oct 12 2006, 12:51 PM) Then again I am so tempted by the new UX90 with 32gig Flash Memory Drive... maybe it's not a good idea.  Yeah the flash drive might not be such a good idea. I'll stick with what I know will work unless Brett says that the flashdrive is supported. |
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Oct 12 2006, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(mathemajikian @ Oct 12 2006, 10:37 AM) I've trusted Brett at https://conics.net/ with over $1K of my money and have never had any issues regarding honesty, so if he says that the device works with the LiveCD's I'll take his word for it. I'll buy one and then post my results.(I'll take one for the team )I didn't mean it as an issue of trust. I'd just like someone to try it and say it works. I'm not going to risk $2000 to end up with a Windows machine.
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Oct 13 2006, 08:19 AM
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This is sort of interesting:
http://netbsd.default.co.yu/contrib/projects.html#zaurus http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/evbarm/ # Intel DBPXA250 ("Lubbock") DBPXA250 (a.k.a. Lubbock) is an evaluation and development platform for the Intel PXA250 XScale Core application processor. More information about the DBPXA250 can be found at Intel web site. Support for the DBPXA250 was written by Hiroyuki Bessho, and contributed by Genetec Corp. * On-chip timers (saost used as system clock) * On-chip 2 serial port (com) * On-board SMC91C96 ethernet (sm) * On-board SA-1111 StrongArm companion chip (sacc) * PS/2 keyboard (pckbd) * 640x480 LCD (lcd) * PCMCIA and CF card slots # Arcom Viper The Arcom Viper is a single board computer based on the PXA255 XScale processor. Support for the Arcom Viper was written by Antti Kantee. * On-chip timers (saost used as system clock) * On-chip serial ports (com) * On-board SMC91C111 ethernet (sm) |
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Oct 31 2006, 12:54 AM
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We should have the dmesg outputs from the livecds soon. I just got an e-mail from Brett saying he was going to give it a try this week.
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Nov 4 2006, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(coreilly @ Oct 11 2006, 08:19 PM) Hopefully Brett at Conics will realize that if *bsd supports this device relatively well, then some (rich) people out there might be buying them! I've tested the UX90 (16GB flash drive) model with olive: http://downloads.conics.net/sony-ux/olive/ it might take me a while to test the others, but I'll see if I can do it soon. regards, -Brett |
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Nov 6 2006, 05:57 AM
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