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grog
post Jun 21 2006, 06:54 PM
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Hi all. I'm really interested in trying out PocketWorkstation and/or PocketWorkstationXQT on my C860, but can I please get a few questions answered first?

For starters, I am in the right forum (X/QT = PocketWorkstationXQT)? And what's the diff between the above two? Do the above pages have the right info to get me started, or should I go through the main pinned topic first? It seems that if I want a 'true' X desktop I'll have to go the PocketWorkstationXQT way, correct?

And what's pdaxqtrom all about? That seems to be entirely pdaxrom based, right?

And it seems either needs a 'base' install of something else. Do I have to use the official sharp rom, or can I use cacko? Can I use OZ/OPIE? And after I get comfortable with debian, do I ever have to boot back into the other for any reason? Is there any way to install just PocketWorkstation to flash?

thanks in advance
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McChubby
post Jul 8 2006, 05:07 AM
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I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200 but I keep having problems...

Will pocketworkstation work with OZ? If so, OPIE or GPE? And if so, any links to useful docs?

It seems that all the docs I've read talk about using it with a Sharp-based ROM (or Cacko etc.), which I don't want to use.
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post Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM
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QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 01:07 PM)
I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200 but I keep having problems...

Will pocketworkstation work with OZ?  If so, OPIE or GPE?  And if so, any links to useful docs?

It seems that all the docs I've read talk about using it with a Sharp-based ROM (or Cacko etc.), which I don't want to use.
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As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps.

PS: reponses like "OMG!!!!1!! Debian has m0r3 p4ck4g3s, duh..." are NOT helpfull
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post Jul 8 2006, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 02:58 PM)
As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps.

PS: reponses like "OMG!!!!1!! Debian has m0r3 p4ck4g3s, duh..." are NOT helpfull
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Good point - I had read similar points from you recently in other posts, and I agree! I wasn't trying to stir anything up; more a case of just seeing what pocketworkstation had to offer by trying it out - as I haven't had my Z very long, and I'm still on the steep learning curve. blink.gif

My opinion at the moment is that of Cacko, PdaXrom, GPE and OPIE, I like the look and feel of GPE best (I like the option of being more X-like, choice of WMs etc.), but really want to use Ko/Pi and related, so OPIE looks like my best choice (as I also like the propable compatibility with Sharp/Cacko apps). However I really want a decent "office" suite, like abiword/gnumeric, which isn't available on OPIE.

So, I need a decent PIM and office suite available at the same time, and from my small amount of knowledge I don't think both are available in either GPE or OPIE.

I understand that you can run GPE and OPIE together, but I haven't tried that yet, and I don't know if that configuration will solve my problem. One of my concerns was that the "GPE and OPIE together" wiki was written (by you) last year, and I wasn't sure if it was still relevant (given that other topics on this forum offer fixes/solutions to overcome various problems, and that they have not been integrated into a single guide), and that because I have a C3200 I wasn't sure if I had to move OPIE to SD or whether I could leave as-is (since I don't understand how the dual OPIE/GPE thing works!).

Any help appreciated. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 8 2006, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 03:56 PM)
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but really want to use Ko/Pi and related, so OPIE looks like my best choice
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1) What does KO/PI offer that gpe-pim doesn't offer? I'm sure the gpe people would like to know.
2) You can get KO/PI for X11 as well, the OE recipes are in the OE bugtracker ( http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 ), but *noone* bothered to test them out (kinda surprising since a lot of people ask for them).
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post Jul 8 2006, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:06 PM)
QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 03:56 PM)

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but really want to use Ko/Pi and related, so OPIE looks like my best choice
[..]

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1) What does KO/PI offer that gpe-pim doesn't offer? I'm sure the gpe people would like to know.
2) You can get KO/PI for X11 as well, the OE recipes are in the OE bugtracker ( http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 ), but *noone* bothered to test them out (kinda surprising since a lot of people ask for them).
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1) I don't know - I will look into this and give feedback.

2) So, being new to all this, how could I get/build this and test it?

Thanks for your quick reply.
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grog   Pocketworkstation Basics   Jun 21 2006, 06:54 PM
miskinis   Hi, I'll take a stab at answering your questi...   Jun 21 2006, 08:45 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 22 2006, 12:54 PM)Hi all. I...   Jun 21 2006, 09:24 PM
stormer   I suggest that we rename and sticky this thread as...   Jun 22 2006, 02:27 AM
grog   Thanks for the details, guys. That does clear most...   Jun 22 2006, 02:32 AM
grog   And can I flash/update the base rom (cacko) later ...   Jun 22 2006, 02:34 AM
grog   Well, I've answered one of my original questio...   Jun 27 2006, 03:20 AM
grog   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 27 2006, 05:20 AM)Is there a...   Jun 27 2006, 09:16 AM
InSearchOf   I agree this should be sticky'd... I've be...   Jun 27 2006, 02:37 PM
grog   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Jun 27 2006, 04:37 PM)Edit...   Jun 28 2006, 07:08 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 29 2006, 01:08 AM)QUOTE(InSe...   Jun 28 2006, 08:09 AM
adf   This is the site for debian on the 3000. I think i...   Jul 4 2006, 01:00 PM
grog   I finally got enough time to get my cf nic up ...   Jun 28 2006, 07:06 AM
grog   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 28 2006, 09:06 AM)I can ...   Jun 28 2006, 09:32 AM
omro   Does anyone update pocket workstation anymore? Has...   Jul 8 2006, 03:46 AM
McChubby   I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200...   Jul 8 2006, 05:07 AM
koen   QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 01:07 PM)I'v...   Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM)As hrw and ...   Jul 8 2006, 06:17 AM
koen   QUOTE(omro @ Jul 8 2006, 02:17 PM)QUOTE(koen ...   Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)QUOTE(omro ...   Jul 8 2006, 12:03 PM
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koen   QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 02:08 PM)QUOTE(koen...   Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM)Most of th...   Jul 19 2006, 06:23 AM
omro   dare I ask how it's going?   Aug 5 2006, 02:53 AM
packetfocus   QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM)dare I ask ...   Aug 21 2006, 09:09 PM
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zedkatuf2   QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM)QUO...   Aug 23 2006, 02:35 PM
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packetfocus   pdaXrom already has gtk2, python, perl and mayb...   Aug 23 2006, 06:30 PM
Wildherb   QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM)QUO...   Nov 22 2006, 04:19 PM
McChubby   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 02:58 PM)As hrw and ...   Jul 8 2006, 07:56 AM
koen   QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 03:56 PM)[..] bu...   Jul 8 2006, 08:06 AM
McChubby   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:06 PM)QUOTE(McChu...   Jul 8 2006, 08:14 AM
McChubby   QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 04:56 PM)I under...   Jul 8 2006, 09:07 AM
adf   "As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Co...   Jul 8 2006, 11:24 AM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 8 2006, 07:24 PM)"As hrw...   Jul 8 2006, 12:27 PM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 08:27 PM)QUOTE(adf ...   Jul 8 2006, 01:22 PM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 8 2006, 09:22 PM)Personally i...   Jul 8 2006, 01:27 PM
omro   Might be an idea to start a new thread with your q...   Jul 8 2006, 01:50 PM
pgas   QUOTE'If you are running OZ and are using PW, ...   Jul 8 2006, 02:04 PM
koen   QUOTE(pgas @ Jul 8 2006, 10:04 PM)here is my ...   Jul 8 2006, 11:55 PM
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