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grog
post Jun 21 2006, 06:54 PM
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Hi all. I'm really interested in trying out PocketWorkstation and/or PocketWorkstationXQT on my C860, but can I please get a few questions answered first?

For starters, I am in the right forum (X/QT = PocketWorkstationXQT)? And what's the diff between the above two? Do the above pages have the right info to get me started, or should I go through the main pinned topic first? It seems that if I want a 'true' X desktop I'll have to go the PocketWorkstationXQT way, correct?

And what's pdaxqtrom all about? That seems to be entirely pdaxrom based, right?

And it seems either needs a 'base' install of something else. Do I have to use the official sharp rom, or can I use cacko? Can I use OZ/OPIE? And after I get comfortable with debian, do I ever have to boot back into the other for any reason? Is there any way to install just PocketWorkstation to flash?

thanks in advance
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McChubby
post Jul 8 2006, 05:07 AM
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I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200 but I keep having problems...

Will pocketworkstation work with OZ? If so, OPIE or GPE? And if so, any links to useful docs?

It seems that all the docs I've read talk about using it with a Sharp-based ROM (or Cacko etc.), which I don't want to use.
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post Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM
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QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 01:07 PM)
I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200 but I keep having problems...

Will pocketworkstation work with OZ?  If so, OPIE or GPE?  And if so, any links to useful docs?

It seems that all the docs I've read talk about using it with a Sharp-based ROM (or Cacko etc.), which I don't want to use.
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As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps.

PS: reponses like "OMG!!!!1!! Debian has m0r3 p4ck4g3s, duh..." are NOT helpfull
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post Jul 8 2006, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM)
As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps.


If Open Office 1 or 2 worked well in OZ under GPE I'd have no reason to use any other ROM ever. GPE is by far my fave environment at the moment.
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post Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(omro @ Jul 8 2006, 02:17 PM)
QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM)
As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps.


If Open Office 1 or 2 worked well in OZ under GPE I'd have no reason to use any other ROM ever. GPE is by far my fave environment at the moment.
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OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2006, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)
OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build smile.gif
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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post Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM)
QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)
OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build smile.gif
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV.
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post Jul 18 2006, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM)
QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM)
QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)
OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build smile.gif
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV.
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I'm guessing it would take way too long to do natively on a Z?

Can you use the board for other things? Will it be of long term benefit to other projects?
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post Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 02:08 PM)
QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM)
QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM)
QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)
OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build smile.gif
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Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board?
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You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV.
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I'm guessing it would take way too long to do natively on a Z?

Can you use the board for other things? Will it be of long term benefit to other projects?
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Most of the 'too long' is caused by only having 64MB ram, so getting a board with 256MB will speed up compiling c++ and java stuff *a lot* since you can avoid swapping to CF/SD.
I also have enough other ARM boards and devices to make running distcc usefull smile.gif

The board will be used to work on native stuff for Ångström and OE.
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post Jul 19 2006, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM)
Most of the 'too long' is caused by only having 64MB ram, so getting a board with 256MB will speed up compiling c++ and java stuff *a lot* since you can avoid swapping to CF/SD.
I also have enough other ARM boards and devices to make running distcc usefull smile.gif

The board will be used to work on native stuff for Ångström and OE.
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Sounds like you're almost salivating at the thought of getting your hands on it! wink.gif
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post Aug 5 2006, 02:53 AM
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dare I ask how it's going?
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post Aug 21 2006, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM)
dare I ask how it's going?
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

JP
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post Aug 23 2006, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM)
QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM)
dare I ask how it's going?
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Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ?

All the sites are down now???

JP
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http://pocketworkstation.infinology.net/files/

..Klaus is having a few probs renewing the domain at the moment...he emailed me very promptly when I mentioned about having probs accessing the pocketworkstation.org site.

The above mirror works well.

Cheers,

zedkatuf.
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grog   Pocketworkstation Basics   Jun 21 2006, 06:54 PM
miskinis   Hi, I'll take a stab at answering your questi...   Jun 21 2006, 08:45 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 22 2006, 12:54 PM)Hi all. I...   Jun 21 2006, 09:24 PM
stormer   I suggest that we rename and sticky this thread as...   Jun 22 2006, 02:27 AM
grog   Thanks for the details, guys. That does clear most...   Jun 22 2006, 02:32 AM
grog   And can I flash/update the base rom (cacko) later ...   Jun 22 2006, 02:34 AM
grog   Well, I've answered one of my original questio...   Jun 27 2006, 03:20 AM
grog   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 27 2006, 05:20 AM)Is there a...   Jun 27 2006, 09:16 AM
InSearchOf   I agree this should be sticky'd... I've be...   Jun 27 2006, 02:37 PM
grog   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Jun 27 2006, 04:37 PM)Edit...   Jun 28 2006, 07:08 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 29 2006, 01:08 AM)QUOTE(InSe...   Jun 28 2006, 08:09 AM
adf   This is the site for debian on the 3000. I think i...   Jul 4 2006, 01:00 PM
grog   I finally got enough time to get my cf nic up ...   Jun 28 2006, 07:06 AM
grog   QUOTE(grog @ Jun 28 2006, 09:06 AM)I can ...   Jun 28 2006, 09:32 AM
omro   Does anyone update pocket workstation anymore? Has...   Jul 8 2006, 03:46 AM
McChubby   I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200...   Jul 8 2006, 05:07 AM
koen   QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 01:07 PM)I'v...   Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM)As hrw and ...   Jul 8 2006, 06:17 AM
koen   QUOTE(omro @ Jul 8 2006, 02:17 PM)QUOTE(koen ...   Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)QUOTE(omro ...   Jul 8 2006, 12:03 PM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM)OOo has alr...   Jul 18 2006, 03:44 AM
koen   QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM)QUOTE(koen...   Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM)QUOTE(omro...   Jul 18 2006, 06:08 AM
koen   QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 02:08 PM)QUOTE(koen...   Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM
omro   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM)Most of th...   Jul 19 2006, 06:23 AM
omro   dare I ask how it's going?   Aug 5 2006, 02:53 AM
packetfocus   QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM)dare I ask ...   Aug 21 2006, 09:09 PM
omro   QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM)dare I ask ...   Aug 23 2006, 12:38 PM
omro   QUOTE(omro @ Aug 23 2006, 12:38 PM)QUOTE(omro...   Oct 23 2006, 01:36 AM
zedkatuf2   QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM)QUO...   Aug 23 2006, 02:35 PM
packetfocus   QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Aug 24 2006, 09:35 AM)QUOTE...   Aug 23 2006, 03:46 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 24 2006, 09:46 AM)QUO...   Aug 23 2006, 06:20 PM
packetfocus   pdaXrom already has gtk2, python, perl and mayb...   Aug 23 2006, 06:30 PM
Wildherb   QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM)QUO...   Nov 22 2006, 04:19 PM
McChubby   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 02:58 PM)As hrw and ...   Jul 8 2006, 07:56 AM
koen   QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 03:56 PM)[..] bu...   Jul 8 2006, 08:06 AM
McChubby   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:06 PM)QUOTE(McChu...   Jul 8 2006, 08:14 AM
McChubby   QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 04:56 PM)I under...   Jul 8 2006, 09:07 AM
adf   "As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Co...   Jul 8 2006, 11:24 AM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 8 2006, 07:24 PM)"As hrw...   Jul 8 2006, 12:27 PM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 08:27 PM)QUOTE(adf ...   Jul 8 2006, 01:22 PM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 8 2006, 09:22 PM)Personally i...   Jul 8 2006, 01:27 PM
omro   Might be an idea to start a new thread with your q...   Jul 8 2006, 01:50 PM
pgas   QUOTE'If you are running OZ and are using PW, ...   Jul 8 2006, 02:04 PM
koen   QUOTE(pgas @ Jul 8 2006, 10:04 PM)here is my ...   Jul 8 2006, 11:55 PM
macwiz   Hi Here I am again wondering what to do with my Z...   Feb 15 2007, 04:37 PM
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macwiz   Meanie, if I had that Zaurus, what ROM would I be ...   Feb 16 2007, 09:25 AM
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macwiz   QUOTE(Meanie @ Feb 16 2007, 10:00 PM)QUOTE(ma...   Feb 16 2007, 03:32 PM


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