 Pocketworkstation Basics, (for the newbie) |
 Jun 21 2006, 06:54 PM
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Hi all. I'm really interested in trying out PocketWorkstation and/or PocketWorkstationXQT on my C860, but can I please get a few questions answered first?
For starters, I am in the right forum (X/QT = PocketWorkstationXQT)? And what's the diff between the above two? Do the above pages have the right info to get me started, or should I go through the main pinned topic first? It seems that if I want a 'true' X desktop I'll have to go the PocketWorkstationXQT way, correct? And what's pdaxqtrom all about? That seems to be entirely pdaxrom based, right? And it seems either needs a 'base' install of something else. Do I have to use the official sharp rom, or can I use cacko? Can I use OZ/OPIE? And after I get comfortable with debian, do I ever have to boot back into the other for any reason? Is there any way to install just PocketWorkstation to flash? thanks in advance |
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Jul 8 2006, 05:07 AM
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I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200 but I keep having problems...
Will pocketworkstation work with OZ? If so, OPIE or GPE? And if so, any links to useful docs? It seems that all the docs I've read talk about using it with a Sharp-based ROM (or Cacko etc.), which I don't want to use. |
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Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM
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QUOTE(McChubby @ Jul 8 2006, 01:07 PM) I've been trying pocketworkstation on my C3200 but I keep having problems... Will pocketworkstation work with OZ? If so, OPIE or GPE? And if so, any links to useful docs? It seems that all the docs I've read talk about using it with a Sharp-based ROM (or Cacko etc.), which I don't want to use.  As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps. PS: reponses like "OMG!!!!1!! Debian has m0r3 p4ck4g3s, duh..." are NOT helpfull |
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Jul 8 2006, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM) As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps. If Open Office 1 or 2 worked well in OZ under GPE I'd have no reason to use any other ROM ever. GPE is by far my fave environment at the moment. |
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Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(omro @ Jul 8 2006, 02:17 PM) QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 05:58 AM) As hrw and I asked multiple times before: Could you please tell us what you need from PW so we can add that to OZ natively? It seems a bit wastefull and backwards to layer an entire OS on top of OZ for one or two apps. If Open Office 1 or 2 worked well in OZ under GPE I'd have no reason to use any other ROM ever. GPE is by far my fave environment at the moment. OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build 
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Jul 18 2006, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM) OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board? |
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Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM) QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM) OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board? You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV. |
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Jul 18 2006, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM) QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM) QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM) OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board? You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV. I'm guessing it would take way too long to do natively on a Z? Can you use the board for other things? Will it be of long term benefit to other projects? |
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Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 02:08 PM) QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM) QUOTE(omro @ Jul 18 2006, 11:44 AM) QUOTE(koen @ Jul 8 2006, 07:01 AM) OOo has alreadby been noted and is being worked on. I should be receiving an ARM board with 256MB ram next week so I can do a native build Forgive my repeated ignorance, as I'm curious about how this works. Why would you need an ARM board? You can't really crosscompile OOo, since that buildsystem is a mess. I also spotted some hardcoded /usr/include entries, so building it natively would be easier and 'safer' from a purist POV. I'm guessing it would take way too long to do natively on a Z? Can you use the board for other things? Will it be of long term benefit to other projects? Most of the 'too long' is caused by only having 64MB ram, so getting a board with 256MB will speed up compiling c++ and java stuff *a lot* since you can avoid swapping to CF/SD. I also have enough other ARM boards and devices to make running distcc usefull The board will be used to work on native stuff for Ångström and OE. |
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Jul 19 2006, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(koen @ Jul 18 2006, 06:38 AM) Most of the 'too long' is caused by only having 64MB ram, so getting a board with 256MB will speed up compiling c++ and java stuff *a lot* since you can avoid swapping to CF/SD. I also have enough other ARM boards and devices to make running distcc usefull The board will be used to work on native stuff for Ångström and OE. Sounds like you're almost salivating at the thought of getting your hands on it! 
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Aug 5 2006, 02:53 AM
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dare I ask how it's going?
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Aug 21 2006, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM) dare I ask how it's going? Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ? All the sites are down now??? JP |
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Aug 23 2006, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM) QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM) dare I ask how it's going? Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ? All the sites are down now??? JP http://pocketworkstation.infinology.net/files/ ..Klaus is having a few probs renewing the domain at the moment...he emailed me very promptly when I mentioned about having probs accessing the pocketworkstation.org site. The above mirror works well. Cheers, zedkatuf. |
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Aug 23 2006, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(zedkatuf2 @ Aug 24 2006, 09:35 AM) QUOTE(packetfocus @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 AM) QUOTE(omro @ Aug 5 2006, 09:53 PM) dare I ask how it's going? Does anyone know where to download zaurus-debian-big-v0.15.tgz ? All the sites are down now??? JP http://pocketworkstation.infinology.net/files/ ..Klaus is having a few probs renewing the domain at the moment...he emailed me very promptly when I mentioned about having probs accessing the pocketworkstation.org site. The above mirror works well. Cheers, zedkatuf. Thanks for the reply. I have pdaxrom flashed on my C700 now. However, I'm really keen on getting a chrooted debian environment . I need the following on my Z. GTK 2 PERL RUBY PYTHON Questions: Would pocketworkstation work with PdaXrom? Does Debian use the PdaXrom X server or run its on? How will this run on the C700? Final Question: Am I going about this all wrong? Do I need to put debian on my C700 to achieve getting the packages above? My goal is to use the PDA to develop RFID applications. I have an ACG reader (CF2) card and need the dev capabilities above. CHeers!!!! JP |
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miskinis Hi,
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