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wsuetholz
post Aug 9 2006, 11:01 PM
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Hello,
This a little bit premature, but, when designing these things, usually the system board layout has to work with the design of the shell that the board will inhabit.

Some of the things that I recall about the current thinking for the body are:

1) Initial design will be a clamshell case like the SL-Cxx00 series
2) A 4" transreflective display 640x480 minimum
3) A hardware keyboard built in (just to be clear)
4) 1 CF Slot, CFIO capable - this is a no...
5) SD Slot, SDIO capable
6) 1 USB port, not sure if Mini or normal, Client or Host, or combined
7) 1 HDMI port for video out
8) 1 Audio out
9) 1 Audio in
10) 1 Camera
11) 1 Power input (again just to be clear)
12) Easy access to battery(ies)
13) Easy access to reset button
14) A Rocker switch (because the Z has it)
15) A Cancel and an OK button (because the Z has it)
16) A Power On/Suspend/Off button (no reason can't work like PC)
17) A speaker
18) A microphone
19) External antenna connection(s)
20) GSM Identity card access
21) a bunch of LEDs (HD, POWER, BT, WIFI, ...)
22) Fingerprint reader

Boy, that's alot of stuff.....

However, there can never be enough... Some things I'd like to see in additon are:
1) 2 CF externally accessable. No internal HD, I'd like to be able to easily switch out HD's. This one will be very hard to accomplish, because of the realestate needed.
2) Both the USB Host and Client ports available in the full sized version.
3) I'd like to see 2 SD slots.
4) Maybe stereo speakers?

The keyboard should have some application keys some of which could be lighted different colors, to indicate on/off status, ie turn on bluetooth, or wi-fi. The rest of the keyboard should be able to be backlit.

--edit-- added in the fingerprint reader, and make comment about CF slot

Bill
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Da_Blitz
post Nov 10 2006, 05:44 PM
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actually i have a xen 3.0 setup with full system emulation (so i can boot windows under linux) with the nice fancy dual core and 4Gig of ram (comes in handy when you want to virtalise windows several times)

windows is the one that has expired as it dosent pass the authentication/WGA process

but due to a problem with the recent kernels (2.6.15 to 2.6.18) i cant boot unless i use an older kernel, of which there is no pre compiled nvidia drivers and unfortunattly fedora makes it a habit of deleating the older kernels from the repositories meaning i cant use thier source to recompile the nividia drivers

never really had a problem with linux up till now, but i will say that windows XP is not ready for a natvie boot on my system ethier, in fact it has worse hardware support than linux (there are a couple of things but the sound card drivers seem to be tha main one, they just dont work sad.gif)

software wise i am fine, i have never had a problem navigating the underweb (not that i need to scince i went to linux) however if this goes even slightly comercial i wouldnt want to be using somthing like that. perhaps i should just look into getting a licsence or asking them nicly for a cheaper version
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wsuetholz   Body Design   Aug 9 2006, 11:01 PM
Da_Blitz   Actually we have 2 SD slots and no external CF. it...   Aug 9 2006, 11:19 PM
morrijr   Fingerprint reader.   Aug 10 2006, 03:49 AM
wsuetholz   Could we put the application buttons by the screen...   Aug 10 2006, 06:00 AM
wsuetholz   I'd really like to be able to easily get at wh...   Aug 10 2006, 06:07 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(wsuetholz @ Aug 10 2006, 05:07 AM)I...   Aug 10 2006, 05:49 PM
Da_Blitz   i would be worried about the clearence issues if w...   Aug 11 2006, 10:38 PM
Zuse   Hi everyone, just my ideas for a body design: ma...   Aug 12 2006, 07:33 AM
Da_Blitz   this has to fit in my pocket   Aug 13 2006, 03:48 AM
Da_Blitz   we plan to use the bay concept and backpacks (see ...   Aug 13 2006, 03:50 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 13 2006, 02:50 AM)we pla...   Aug 13 2006, 06:37 PM
Da_Blitz   thats a very nice solution, i will think about how...   Aug 14 2006, 12:12 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 13 2006, 11:12 PM)thats ...   Aug 14 2006, 09:57 AM
wsuetholz   That is a very nice idea, maybe each unit can have...   Aug 14 2006, 08:02 AM
Da_Blitz   very intresting, i dont think i would use a mini u...   Aug 14 2006, 07:45 PM
morrijr   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 15 2006, 03:45 AM)very i...   Aug 15 2006, 08:07 AM
Da_Blitz   in this case a custom socket is more of a requirme...   Aug 16 2006, 03:32 AM
wsuetholz   I don't know if I can explain this properly, b...   Aug 16 2006, 08:06 AM
Da_Blitz   to many things to go wrong, anyway you have at lea...   Aug 16 2006, 08:32 PM
morrijr   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 17 2006, 04:32 AM)to man...   Aug 17 2006, 01:47 AM
Ferret-Simpson   No, That's easy. It's the spring loaded gu...   Aug 17 2006, 09:42 AM
Da_Blitz   USB sockets mounted verticely are very very bad r...   Aug 19 2006, 04:30 AM
Da_Blitz   we seem to be going down the Z style of casing how...   Aug 21 2006, 10:04 PM
uMP2k   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 22 2006, 04:04 PM)we see...   Aug 22 2006, 12:17 AM
Da_Blitz   that really depends, the ability to swing the scre...   Aug 22 2006, 01:47 AM
uMP2k   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 22 2006, 07:47 PM)that r...   Aug 22 2006, 05:23 PM
Da_Blitz   its been posted, have a look   Aug 22 2006, 08:19 PM
Ferret-Simpson   Hmmm, I think swinging and touching are a good ide...   Aug 23 2006, 02:31 PM
craigtyson   CF Battery? ie an additional battery that uses the...   Aug 23 2006, 03:32 PM
Ferret-Simpson   How can you have a "Handed" stylus clip?...   Aug 24 2006, 06:46 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 24 2006, 05:4...   Aug 25 2006, 09:23 PM
Da_Blitz   guess someone forgot to tell him that we are havin...   Aug 24 2006, 07:15 AM
derekp   Two more things... First, one of my biggest usabil...   Aug 24 2006, 04:48 PM
Ferret-Simpson   But doesn't that completely defeat the object ...   Aug 25 2006, 02:21 AM
derekp   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 25 2006, 02:2...   Aug 25 2006, 12:22 PM
Ferret-Simpson   http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10679.htm The ...   Aug 25 2006, 02:04 PM
Ferret-Simpson   WTH? Never seen one of those before! If I need...   Aug 26 2006, 12:23 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 25 2006, 11:2...   Aug 26 2006, 10:15 PM
desertrat   QUOTE(BarryW @ Aug 27 2006, 06:15 AM)Apple Ne...   Aug 27 2006, 12:13 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(desertrat @ Aug 26 2006, 11:13 PM)QUOTE...   Aug 27 2006, 04:22 PM
desertrat   QUOTE(BarryW @ Aug 28 2006, 12:22 AM)Naa, I...   Aug 27 2006, 07:44 PM
BarryW   QUOTE(desertrat @ Aug 27 2006, 06:44 PM)QUOTE...   Aug 27 2006, 11:57 PM
Da_Blitz   i dont think that most phone cases will work, they...   Aug 26 2006, 06:24 AM
Ferret-Simpson   Not to mention no brushed aluminium case.   Aug 26 2006, 07:54 AM
Ferret-Simpson   An The old Acorn Pocketbook (Rebadged Psion 3a, ri...   Aug 27 2006, 02:35 PM
uMP2k   Ahhh the Newton - there is no love like the first ...   Aug 27 2006, 05:03 PM
Ferret-Simpson   Heh? And back on topic. . . ? Apparently the Scr...   Aug 28 2006, 03:09 AM
Da_Blitz   i would love to get my hands on a psion, the oldes...   Aug 28 2006, 03:37 AM
desertrat   Sorry for continuing with the OT QUOTE(Da_Blitz ...   Aug 28 2006, 09:46 AM
Ragnorok   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 28 2006, 11:37 AM)i woul...   Nov 24 2006, 10:00 PM
Ferret-Simpson   DB? The screen?   Aug 28 2006, 09:26 AM
systemparadox   I have a few suggestions. I've been looking fo...   Sep 13 2006, 12:35 PM
Da_Blitz   i dont mind droppin the otating screen, it does cr...   Sep 14 2006, 03:02 AM
MONVMENTVM   I also do not really need a rotating screen. I nev...   Sep 20 2006, 12:04 PM
systemparadox   QUOTE(MONVMENTVM @ Sep 20 2006, 08:04 PM)A si...   Sep 22 2006, 02:07 AM
Da_Blitz   there is a hardware limitation on 1 CF card, itsa ...   Sep 21 2006, 04:53 AM
adf   a 6000 footprint non-rotating clamshell would be a...   Sep 21 2006, 12:30 PM
speculatrix   these people do some interesting boxes "off t...   Nov 2 2006, 05:57 AM
Antikx   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Nov 2 2006, 07:57 AM)thes...   Nov 2 2006, 10:06 AM
Da_Blitz   very nice however they seem to have some technical...   Nov 2 2006, 06:53 PM
speculatrix   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 3 2006, 03:53 AM)very ni...   Nov 3 2006, 02:31 AM
Da_Blitz   from what i saw they fold thier designs from falt ...   Nov 3 2006, 02:40 AM
speculatrix   I think they use a combination of folding + weldin...   Nov 3 2006, 03:57 AM
Da_Blitz   hmm, i was hoping for some heavy internal compartm...   Nov 3 2006, 11:14 PM
speculatrix   OKW have some interesting enclosures... a simple h...   Nov 9 2006, 05:25 AM
Da_Blitz   i think i should just drop the case for now and ge...   Nov 9 2006, 06:40 PM
stampsm   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 9 2006, 06:40 PM)i think...   Nov 10 2006, 03:13 AM
speculatrix   to carry on off-topic... QUOTE(stampsm @ Nov...   Nov 10 2006, 04:32 AM
Da_Blitz   actually i have a xen 3.0 setup with full system e...   Nov 10 2006, 05:44 PM
wsuetholz   One thing that has been bothering me about my Z, i...   Dec 4 2006, 07:45 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(wsuetholz @ Dec 4 2006, 04:45 PM)One th...   Dec 4 2006, 08:52 AM
Da_Blitz   actually i have had that problem with turning on o...   Dec 4 2006, 09:04 PM
speculatrix   I think that'd it be better to get a working v...   Dec 5 2006, 04:44 AM
Ragnorok   - Okey doke. I'm not technically a PDA collec...   Dec 6 2006, 05:16 PM
Da_Blitz   hah funny after reading this thread for the first ...   Feb 11 2007, 08:39 PM


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