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Zuse
post Aug 12 2006, 06:32 AM
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Hi all,

just read a bit here and there and noticed, that many people have quite different opinion what a "good" PDA should include. As far as we come to software this is not critical as everyone can change it later over and over again.

As far as the hardware is discussed there should be a ranking to meet the opinion of most people out there.

E.g. I totally need no finger-print reader. IMHO, these devices are useless and it was demonstrated that this devices can be easily entrapped (more easily then a good password). Hence, they give a totally wrong feeling of security.

On the other side, battery-life-time is more important to me than everything else.
What do all these bells and whistles mean if you can only run them for 1.5 hours without recharging? I like to see a device with a more then full working day (10-14 hours) continuous runtime, which should end up in charging the device every third week or every month for normal usage vs. power off periods.

Thus, for sure a web-cam will be fine, but if it will eat up 10 % of my battery life time, I really can live without it.

For me the most critical point to create the perfect PDA would be therefore, the development of the best power-management available on the PDA-market.

Furthermore, try to keep everything as flexible as possible. Instead to integrate a web-cam at the top of the display (as some sonys-laptops did), it might be a good idea to create a hidden USB port there. There are hundereds of very tiny cams on the market already, just stick one at the top of the display if you need one. This will gurantee, that later developements (e.g. more pixels, more fps etc.) can be easily upgraded by everyone. On the other hand, there might be some smart users, which find other devices on the market to be usefull.
In addtion, this will reduce the price to a affordable barebone set-up with a lot of individual add ons.

Just my two cents

Zuse
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Ferret-Simpson
post Aug 23 2006, 02:06 PM
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hehehe, No, it's the 20GB CF Microdrives that are out "Soon" I'm referring to. Gods damn, I don't mind USB connecting or wifi connecting to my camera if I can copy the images to my 20GB internal CF card!!

I have a poodle, and an XDA Exec (Universal) and those are the two designs I'm thinking to hybridise. Obviously, We've looked at all sorts of things neither have: Accelerometers, 5.1 surround sound. . . But essentially, what's most important for me, is a hybrid of the best bits from the XDA, the best from the poodle, and the bugs removed. . . From the XDA: General layout and rough spec. From the Poodle. . . Linux, multifuction bootloader (Altboot), CompactFlash/MD Storage, Irda (If poss) Lanyard loop, and more useful status indicators.

And ironing out bugs? Like having two cameras on the XDA, and no quick-reference screen. Pull that from the Samsung phones. . One camera, two screens. Another bug? The Torch. . WTH? That should be a burst flash! NOT a weedy LED lamp! The XDA is as solid as my old Clie, so a nice aluminium or Mg alloy case is nice. . .

Heh, I'm a typical consumer. What I want, is what I've got. . With just a few tweaks.
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post Aug 23 2006, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 23 2006, 10:06 PM)
Heh, I'm a typical consumer. What I want, is what I've got. . With just a few tweaks.
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I guess that about sums up my position too... a better linux clamshell than my 3100 and one for which software doesn't have to be reverse engineered, or simply guessed at.
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post Aug 24 2006, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(adf @ Aug 23 2006, 05:43 PM)
QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 23 2006, 10:06 PM)
Heh, I'm a typical consumer. What I want, is what I've got. . With just a few tweaks.
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I guess that about sums up my position too... a better linux clamshell than my 3100 and one for which software doesn't have to be reverse engineered, or simply guessed at.
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I many ways I have to agree that I like the current options if they just had those few tweaks(SL-C3200 with wifi, bluetooth and GSM/EGPRS). That is what I need right now, and with the fact I go through phones and PDAs every year to 2 years that maybe what I need now.

Since I just bought a motorola ming, to me I see the PocketPenguin project as what I will want to get and uses a year or two from now, so my opinions and views may be a little different. Also when I got my sl6k 2 years ago it became my primary computer for almost a year(my ibook replaced it). I do have to say I miss having something as small as my 6k as my primary computer, so I guess I am not a typical consumer either.

Though I really can not say if I would need a device that has 5.1 surrond sound but if I say this as my primary machine what I could hook up to my 42in display using the hdmi and uses my frogpad or other bluetooth keyboard it might be nice to be able to have the 5.1, video on lan is where I see that useful. But I think that option might be more of something out of a dock maybe.

I guess most of it goes back to how people plan to uses the device(s) that are created. In may ways the ranking does make since since it lets us know what feature people plan to uses. If we are basing the device off of what the masses want then this would be the way to go. If we are basing the device off of what would be nice to have then we need to see what can be include and see if it is even practical.

Just my thoughts durning my first cup of coffee this morning.
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Zuse   Make A Ranking ?!   Aug 12 2006, 06:32 AM
Da_Blitz   i guess i am starting to get really jadded with th...   Aug 13 2006, 03:44 AM
dhns   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 13 2006, 12:44 PM)i gues...   Aug 16 2006, 08:37 AM
adf   simply put-- speed nice keyboard/input button/togg...   Aug 16 2006, 04:17 PM
Da_Blitz   i m dedicating this post to what you want, please ...   Aug 16 2006, 08:38 PM
adf   [nah... I have nothing against a trackball. There...   Aug 16 2006, 09:25 PM
Ferret-Simpson   I'm ok to lose game crud, and the fingerprint ...   Aug 17 2006, 12:55 AM
derekp   I had an idea that could help solve some of the ov...   Aug 18 2006, 11:28 AM
nevarrie   QUOTE(derekp @ Aug 18 2006, 01:28 PM)The cpu,...   Aug 18 2006, 01:21 PM
Da_Blitz   that actually sounds like a more workable idea, th...   Aug 19 2006, 04:57 AM
iamasmith   Here's my usual food for thought or rant (inte...   Aug 19 2006, 05:51 AM
Ferret-Simpson   On the other note, PCMCIA cards are huge. CF cards...   Aug 19 2006, 06:18 AM
iamasmith   Yeah, PCMCIA is huge and I was thinking about CF r...   Aug 19 2006, 10:03 AM
Da_Blitz   your points about wifi and bluetooth on CF are qui...   Aug 19 2006, 11:58 PM
adf   well... your opinion on CF being dead is hardly bo...   Aug 20 2006, 02:28 AM
zmiq2   For nice and standard modularity (as much standrad...   Aug 20 2006, 10:16 AM
iamasmith   QUOTE(zmiq2 @ Aug 20 2006, 06:16 PM)For nice ...   Aug 20 2006, 10:50 AM
Ferret-Simpson   With the Memory, speed and internal 3d Accellerat...   Aug 20 2006, 12:15 PM
Da_Blitz   the CF has alot of issues, i cant just chuck whate...   Aug 21 2006, 03:00 AM
Ferret-Simpson   OFCOL. . . No, that's not what we're talki...   Aug 21 2006, 09:50 AM
Da_Blitz   the only reason i want to use CF internally is tha...   Aug 21 2006, 10:02 PM
Ferret-Simpson   Oh please don't, I want a PDA with 20GB intern...   Aug 23 2006, 03:14 AM
adf   I really can't picture myself running around w...   Aug 23 2006, 09:01 AM
Ferret-Simpson   hehehe, No, it's the 20GB CF Microdrives that ...   Aug 23 2006, 02:06 PM
adf   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 23 2006, 10:0...   Aug 23 2006, 03:43 PM
nevarrie   QUOTE(adf @ Aug 23 2006, 05:43 PM)QUOTE(Ferre...   Aug 24 2006, 07:49 AM
Da_Blitz   I still like the accelerometer, if you are using a...   Aug 24 2006, 07:06 AM
Da_Blitz   i have always intended to start using this as my m...   Aug 26 2006, 05:36 AM
Ferret-Simpson   If you can find a package, try out Minimo. 0.016 i...   Aug 26 2006, 08:08 AM
adf   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 26 2006, 04:0...   Aug 26 2006, 09:52 AM
Ferret-Simpson   Believe it or not, I prefer the User Interface of ...   Aug 26 2006, 11:53 AM
Da_Blitz   yeah thats the problem with hdmi is that its all d...   Aug 26 2006, 04:37 PM
adf   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 27 2006, 12:37 AM)yeah t...   Aug 26 2006, 07:41 PM
Ferret-Simpson   The DVI connector contains Analog lines, which are...   Aug 27 2006, 02:39 PM
adf   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 27 2006, 10:3...   Aug 27 2006, 04:04 PM
Ferret-Simpson   Which is the point of HDMI, isn't it? XD   Aug 28 2006, 03:10 AM
adf   QUOTE(Ferret-Simpson @ Aug 28 2006, 11:1...   Aug 28 2006, 06:50 PM
Da_Blitz   hdmi is great until you look at the drm stuff in i...   Aug 28 2006, 03:42 AM
adf   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 28 2006, 11:42 AM)hdmi i...   Aug 28 2006, 06:53 PM
Da_Blitz   vga on a hdmi plug sooms to be the way to go, its ...   Aug 28 2006, 07:06 PM


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