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Da_Blitz
post Sep 21 2006, 05:04 AM
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intresting things have been happening latley with freescale, in 30 days (i i remeber correctly) they get sold to new owners, what this means i dont really know as i havent looked at the proposed plans if any are even avalible

anyway there was a new product on the market that was simmilar to what i had in mind in terms of casing, its a pxa270 chip (xscale) but it has wifi, bluetooth, keyboard and more.

some notable features (read must have) are:
ethernet
128MB of ram
8 hour batter life
20GB drive
USB host (most likly full speed)

remeber i am mainly designing this as a portable office and have recently been eyeing the flybook and lifebook after seeing them in person however this device seems to fill 90% of what i was planning to chuck in there, the only things missing seem to be video out and a video card

anyway links:
http://www.slashgear.com/more-details-on-t...reen-201720.php
http://www.seamlessinternet.com/s-xgen/specs.html
http://www.slashgear.com/s-xgen-umpc-field...oard-141644.php
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Ragnorok
post Dec 6 2006, 06:41 PM
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- I think software will be a real issue for this platform. It's one thing to hack up a bootable command line, it's another entirely to write suites of apps from PIM to wardriving, not to mention just getting X to run stably.
- I've been tossing about the idea of giving the OS a go myself, but therre are numerous impediments:

1. I just bought a house, and have a monstrous list of things to do for it. I probably have over 500 man-hours to do. The joys of home ownership.

2. At least through the end of Feb I'm already overcommitted.

3. While I've done software for 20 years and done some fairly complex low-level coding in both C and C++, I've never ported an operating system.

4. The box I'd use for this effort isn't even plugged in yet ... see 1 above.

- For these reasons and others I'm sure I've missed, I haven't mentioned coding.

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post Dec 6 2006, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Ragnorok @ Dec 6 2006, 06:41 PM)
- I think software will be a real issue for this platform.  It's one thing to hack up a bootable command line, it's another entirely to write suites of apps from PIM to wardriving, not to mention just getting X to run stably.
- I've been tossing about the idea of giving the OS a go myself, but therre are numerous impediments:

1. I just bought a house, and have a monstrous list of things to do for it.  I probably have over 500 man-hours to do.  The joys of home ownership.

2. At least through the end of Feb I'm already overcommitted.

3. While I've done software for 20 years and done some fairly complex low-level coding in both C and C++, I've never ported an operating system.

4. The box I'd use for this effort isn't even plugged in yet ... see 1 above.

- For these reasons and others I'm sure I've missed, I haven't mentioned coding.

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well the good news is there is not alot of stuff to port since most of it is pretty much standard. you can just take an existing rom like pdaxrom and do a few tweeks and add missing drivers and you are ready to go. we may have to roll a few custom apps for different things but that is not big deal.

the boot loader will have to be custom made if we want to add advanced features that the processor has such as signed kernels support based on a unique serial number for each processor. if some one steals your pda/phone you can have it password protected to the point that only the password will allow it to turn it on and no amount of hacking/flashing would be able to get around it(except replacing the BGA processor with a new one) unless the manufacture uses a master unlock(possibly unique to each pda's serial number).

manual on security features
http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/w...1SECURITYWP.pdf

i have not problem locking down a phone/pda i have like this so that if some F*** tard steals it that it is only a paper weight to them no matter what they do.(you can make this so that the only way around this is with the master password for the Secure JTAG Controller)

of couse these features can be used to DRM a system all to hell, but if we are running linux we got open source software for basically everything, so who cares if some idiot programmer decides to lock down his media player software (for example). and trust me there is nothing i enjoy more in this world then finding flaws in security systems. you batter be a damn good programmer cause if there is a will there is a way.

you can also roll another version without all the security features so that you have a completely open system. all you would do different if initially program the system with the unlocked version of the software.

with this processor you can lock down a system so much you make m$ proud(re: their paranoia with thier gaming system lines) or make it a hackers heaven, its all your choice.
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Da_Blitz   Alternatives   Sep 21 2006, 05:04 AM
adf   very close indeed. If the PP is like this with vg...   Sep 21 2006, 12:22 PM
Da_Blitz   the port is what i am talking about, there are som...   Sep 21 2006, 10:49 PM
uMP2k   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Sep 22 2006, 04:49 PM)the po...   Sep 21 2006, 10:56 PM
Da_Blitz   thoght that this is the best place to post this a...   Sep 24 2006, 09:28 PM
Ferret-Simpson   Trolltech, Freescales new owners, Fedora (If we ma...   Oct 2 2006, 01:43 AM
Da_Blitz   acutally a number of them do provide patches for l...   Oct 2 2006, 04:35 AM
Ferret-Simpson   What the heck are you taking? You asked for compa...   Oct 9 2006, 10:34 AM
Da_Blitz   sorry missed your point at the moment i have in a...   Oct 9 2006, 04:31 PM
speculatrix   here's another ready-made PXA270 module from A...   Nov 1 2006, 05:01 AM
Da_Blitz   this one keeps on cropping up. very nice but i wou...   Nov 1 2006, 06:55 PM
speculatrix   I think the key with the anders one is that it...   Nov 2 2006, 03:23 AM
Da_Blitz   after looking at my current usggestion it seems ma...   Nov 2 2006, 03:31 AM
speculatrix   of course, you could build early units from these ...   Nov 2 2006, 04:02 AM
Da_Blitz   actually that would be no diffrent from just using...   Nov 2 2006, 05:28 AM
Ragnorok   - I think software will be a real issue for this p...   Dec 6 2006, 06:41 PM
stampsm   QUOTE(Ragnorok @ Dec 6 2006, 06:41 PM)- I thi...   Dec 6 2006, 11:37 PM
Da_Blitz   ive been lookinng at it and i was going to use ubo...   Dec 7 2006, 01:49 AM
Ragnorok   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Dec 7 2006, 09:49 AM)ive bee...   May 19 2007, 08:24 AM
Ragnorok   - House ... interference ... bktzzkt ... Norwegian...   Jan 26 2007, 08:02 PM
Da_Blitz   its funny i was looking into "bios" and ...   Jan 27 2007, 06:13 AM
speculatrix   Ok, I know we all read linuxdevices regularly, and...   Mar 22 2007, 10:20 AM
Da_Blitz   i was waiting for someone to mention that i thoug...   Mar 22 2007, 06:03 PM
stampsm   here is the manufacture's web page for the boa...   Mar 22 2007, 06:39 PM
adf   that in something the size of the koshinja (sp) wi...   Mar 22 2007, 06:57 PM
speculatrix   my Deutsche is nich sehr gut but there's enoug...   Mar 23 2007, 01:50 AM
Ragnorok   - I like it, speculatrix! A little less memor...   Apr 5 2007, 02:00 PM
morrijr   Another alternative...? http://www.linuxdevices.c...   Apr 20 2007, 05:22 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(morrijr @ Apr 20 2007, 02:22 PM)Another...   Apr 20 2007, 05:59 AM
Da_Blitz   actually its alot easier if you drop the confusing...   May 20 2007, 09:14 AM
Ragnorok   - Sorry for the term confusion. So this will put ...   May 21 2007, 09:53 AM
speculatrix   yes, I know you (da blitz) look at linux devices r...   Jul 20 2007, 01:48 PM
koen   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jul 20 2007, 09:48 PM)yes...   Aug 5 2007, 08:27 AM
koen   Some pictures of the glomation board: http://domin...   Aug 5 2007, 08:30 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(koen @ Aug 5 2007, 05:27 PM)glomation i...   Aug 5 2007, 02:37 PM
louigi600   14x20 cm is kind of big for a handheld .... and al...   Aug 5 2007, 08:21 AM
louigi600   The one I liked best so far was the Adelaide thing...   Aug 5 2007, 09:14 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(louigi600 @ Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM)The on...   Aug 6 2007, 01:59 AM
Da_Blitz   definattly food for thought i did manage to finis...   Aug 5 2007, 12:46 PM
Da_Blitz   very nice, just found this little device http://w...   Aug 7 2007, 02:08 AM
louigi600   It's 1/2 the size of my laptop ... and weights...   Aug 7 2007, 05:14 AM
Da_Blitz   so i would be assuming you have one then? its an ...   Aug 7 2007, 07:31 PM
louigi600   No I only have some Z's and some standad x86 h...   Aug 8 2007, 02:20 AM
koen   The adelaide looks like a nice board, but it will ...   Aug 8 2007, 04:13 AM
louigi600   Ooooops ... there we go again with the price. Whit...   Aug 8 2007, 08:27 AM
koen   QUOTE(louigi600 @ Aug 8 2007, 04:27 PM)Ooooop...   Aug 8 2007, 09:21 AM
louigi600   I changed my mind ... I don't like Adelaide an...   Aug 8 2007, 10:18 AM
speculatrix   some more interesting linux embedded stuff: http:/...   Aug 21 2007, 04:59 AM
Da_Blitz   i have seen alot of nice atmel arm refrence platfo...   Aug 24 2007, 01:07 AM
Tom61   Another homebrew machine, this time a gaming handh...   Sep 23 2007, 01:18 PM
speculatrix   hmm, I remember seeing the buglabs stuff a while a...   Sep 23 2007, 01:36 PM
Da_Blitz   i do have some stuff but its rough, and not yet an...   Sep 23 2007, 11:33 PM


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