Sep 21 2006, 05:04 AM
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intresting things have been happening latley with freescale, in 30 days (i i remeber correctly) they get sold to new owners, what this means i dont really know as i havent looked at the proposed plans if any are even avalible
anyway there was a new product on the market that was simmilar to what i had in mind in terms of casing, its a pxa270 chip (xscale) but it has wifi, bluetooth, keyboard and more. some notable features (read must have) are: ethernet 128MB of ram 8 hour batter life 20GB drive USB host (most likly full speed) remeber i am mainly designing this as a portable office and have recently been eyeing the flybook and lifebook after seeing them in person however this device seems to fill 90% of what i was planning to chuck in there, the only things missing seem to be video out and a video card anyway links: http://www.slashgear.com/more-details-on-t...reen-201720.php http://www.seamlessinternet.com/s-xgen/specs.html http://www.slashgear.com/s-xgen-umpc-field...oard-141644.php |
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Dec 7 2006, 01:49 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,565 Joined: 7-April 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 6,806 |
ive been lookinng at it and i was going to use uboot to boootstrap the kexec'ing linux kernel that then boots thhe kernel/OS of your choice. cuts down the dev time and pumps up the feature set and allows you to do the entire "signed kernel" and trusted boot thing (which i aam a fann off scince i have all the keys to my device just likee you will have the keys to yoour device
i will go on record as saying that i think trusted computing is a good idea, BUT i fear that its the implemntation we have to fear and how its used. i do not belive that microsoft will lock down the machines so that you cant instaall another OS as it would be suicide. think about it microsofts poligy about getting hit by a virus is a clean install of the OS. if you restricted the bootloader in that way then it would make it very hard to reinstall the OS OR microsooft would have to find a work around which could be uused to install linux aanyway anyway back OT, the lockdown is actually on pourpse, if a comercial entity wants to produce a loked down version then fine with me, i gave them the ability to do so and if they want it modified then who better to ask than the community. then we get a cheap source of units its most likly that we wont be able to flash these units however there may be a work around. and at any rate i wouldd state that the price of me helping them would be accsess to the keys (which i would keep in escrow for any user who wants me too) so that i could "reset" devices. this would mean that thier keys are not publically relased but we can get cheap uniits tthe ide is that if you haave the unlock key then you have accsess to the internal (to the chip) lash that holds the keys, you then erase the Manufacturers key and reboot, leeaving an unlocked device which you canthenfollow the normall flashing procedure and last of all, i have no problem with DRM, its the manufacturers giving you a locked bok and the keys to open the box and saying "only open the box to listen to the music". once ou have the keys there is nothing stopping you from doing what you want hence the aurgument that at a funemental level the concept of DRM is flawed this explains microsofts trusted boot, they dont want data "leakege" to untrusted modules. good for them, i cant wait to see the day microsoft pulls off a 100% bulletproof solution (no saracsm here) and same goess for linux. not everything works as expected, make sure you plan around it and while im at it i might mention that if i can i will try and make sure developers get free units, if i ma sponsered this will happen, if im not then patrtially subcidies will be more likly. ii have plans and everything is slowly falling into place |
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May 19 2007, 08:24 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 298 Joined: 27-October 03 From: Greenfield, NH Member No.: 781 |
QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Dec 7 2006, 09:49 AM) ive been lookinng at it and i was going to use uboot to boootstrap the kexec'ing linux kernel that then boots thhe kernel/OS of your choice. cuts down the dev time and pumps up the feature set and allows you to do the entire "signed kernel" and trusted boot thing (which i aam a fann off scince i have all the keys to my device just likee you will have the keys to yoour device. ...[snip]... - I've finally gotten 'round to looking up uboot and kexec. So this thing would point to uboot in the "MBR" (or flash load addr equivalent), which would do all the setup work (including what a "bios" would do on a desktop), then it use kexec to load the kernel of chioce? - I haven't gotten to the secure part of this yet, but I've only just started wading through uboot's documentation. I haven't found the docs for ARM yet, the ones I have are for PPC, but I'm sure a lot of the overall system is the same. (shrug) I'm not too worried about that at this early stage. |
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Da_Blitz Alternatives Sep 21 2006, 05:04 AM
adf very close indeed.
If the PP is like this with vg... Sep 21 2006, 12:22 PM
Da_Blitz the port is what i am talking about, there are som... Sep 21 2006, 10:49 PM
uMP2k QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Sep 22 2006, 04:49 PM)the po... Sep 21 2006, 10:56 PM
Da_Blitz thoght that this is the best place to post this
a... Sep 24 2006, 09:28 PM
Ferret-Simpson Trolltech, Freescales new owners, Fedora (If we ma... Oct 2 2006, 01:43 AM
Da_Blitz acutally a number of them do provide patches for l... Oct 2 2006, 04:35 AM
Ferret-Simpson What the heck are you taking?
You asked for compa... Oct 9 2006, 10:34 AM
Da_Blitz sorry missed your point
at the moment i have in a... Oct 9 2006, 04:31 PM
speculatrix here's another ready-made PXA270 module from A... Nov 1 2006, 05:01 AM
Da_Blitz this one keeps on cropping up. very nice but i wou... Nov 1 2006, 06:55 PM
speculatrix I think the key with the anders one is that it... Nov 2 2006, 03:23 AM
Da_Blitz after looking at my current usggestion it seems ma... Nov 2 2006, 03:31 AM
speculatrix of course, you could build early units from these ... Nov 2 2006, 04:02 AM
Da_Blitz actually that would be no diffrent from just using... Nov 2 2006, 05:28 AM
Ragnorok - I think software will be a real issue for this p... Dec 6 2006, 06:41 PM
stampsm QUOTE(Ragnorok @ Dec 6 2006, 06:41 PM)- I thi... Dec 6 2006, 11:37 PM
Ragnorok - House ... interference ... bktzzkt ... Norwegian... Jan 26 2007, 08:02 PM
Da_Blitz its funny i was looking into "bios" and ... Jan 27 2007, 06:13 AM
speculatrix Ok, I know we all read linuxdevices regularly, and... Mar 22 2007, 10:20 AM
Da_Blitz i was waiting for someone to mention that
i thoug... Mar 22 2007, 06:03 PM
stampsm here is the manufacture's web page for the boa... Mar 22 2007, 06:39 PM
adf that in something the size of the koshinja (sp) wi... Mar 22 2007, 06:57 PM
speculatrix my Deutsche is nich sehr gut but there's enoug... Mar 23 2007, 01:50 AM
Ragnorok - I like it, speculatrix! A little less memor... Apr 5 2007, 02:00 PM
morrijr Another alternative...?
http://www.linuxdevices.c... Apr 20 2007, 05:22 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(morrijr @ Apr 20 2007, 02:22 PM)Another... Apr 20 2007, 05:59 AM
Da_Blitz actually its alot easier if you drop the confusing... May 20 2007, 09:14 AM
Ragnorok - Sorry for the term confusion. So this will put ... May 21 2007, 09:53 AM
speculatrix yes, I know you (da blitz) look at linux devices r... Jul 20 2007, 01:48 PM
koen QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jul 20 2007, 09:48 PM)yes... Aug 5 2007, 08:27 AM
koen Some pictures of the glomation board: http://domin... Aug 5 2007, 08:30 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(koen @ Aug 5 2007, 05:27 PM)glomation i... Aug 5 2007, 02:37 PM
louigi600 14x20 cm is kind of big for a handheld .... and al... Aug 5 2007, 08:21 AM
louigi600 The one I liked best so far was the Adelaide thing... Aug 5 2007, 09:14 AM
speculatrix QUOTE(louigi600 @ Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM)The on... Aug 6 2007, 01:59 AM
Da_Blitz definattly food for thought
i did manage to finis... Aug 5 2007, 12:46 PM
Da_Blitz very nice, just found this little device
http://w... Aug 7 2007, 02:08 AM
louigi600 It's 1/2 the size of my laptop ... and weights... Aug 7 2007, 05:14 AM
Da_Blitz so i would be assuming you have one then?
its an ... Aug 7 2007, 07:31 PM
louigi600 No I only have some Z's and some standad x86 h... Aug 8 2007, 02:20 AM
koen The adelaide looks like a nice board, but it will ... Aug 8 2007, 04:13 AM
louigi600 Ooooops ... there we go again with the price.
Whit... Aug 8 2007, 08:27 AM
koen QUOTE(louigi600 @ Aug 8 2007, 04:27 PM)Ooooop... Aug 8 2007, 09:21 AM
louigi600 I changed my mind ... I don't like Adelaide an... Aug 8 2007, 10:18 AM
speculatrix some more interesting linux embedded stuff:
http:/... Aug 21 2007, 04:59 AM
Da_Blitz i have seen alot of nice atmel arm refrence platfo... Aug 24 2007, 01:07 AM
Tom61 Another homebrew machine, this time a gaming handh... Sep 23 2007, 01:18 PM
speculatrix hmm, I remember seeing the buglabs stuff a while a... Sep 23 2007, 01:36 PM
Da_Blitz i do have some stuff but its rough, and not yet an... Sep 23 2007, 11:33 PM![]() ![]() |
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