 Form Factor - Handheld Pc, Or Zaurus-style? |
 Sep 26 2006, 01:26 PM
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Wow, this has really captured my imagination
 !For me, the zaurus is too small for comfortable use, both in terms of screen and in terms of the keyboard. Perhaps I'm too old, but for me the sweet spot of form factor usability vs portability is in the shape of the Psion Series 5, and the Sigmarion 3. The psion's keyboard is great, the screen is adequate if a weird shape... The sig3 runs an 800x480 screen with a very, very capable keyboard. If it ran Linux, well, it'd be *awesome*. I'd love the screen real estate and keyboard size of the old devices with modern hardware. Am I alone in thinking that that is about the right form factor for such a device? We're not going for PDA replacement after all, but general purpose pervasive computing platform
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Feb 21 2007, 04:41 PM
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AFAIK, a c1000 is the same size as the other c3x00.
 Makes me wonder. Besides the 'faster' pxa270cpu, is there any diff between the c760, c860 and the c1000 |
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Feb 22 2007, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE(Snappy @ Feb 22 2007, 01:41 AM) AFAIK, a c1000 is the same size as the other c3x00. Makes me wonder. Besides the 'faster' pxa270cpu, is there any diff between the c760, c860 and the c1000  the C1000 & 3x00 have the same PCB, the latter have the internal CF connector and chips. This PCB has, apparently, space for bluetooth module. 700/750/760 had the PXA250 & 255... the PXA25~ were discontinued forcing sharp to upgrade. The new PXA270 is faster both on instruction execution and possible clock speed. Note the 3200 can't be overclocked as much. USB host came via the new CPU. CPU is different. RAM and ROM are I think simply newer variants which are ROHS ("lead free). Keyboards are different too. I think the only common thing is battery and display. The lesson, to try and get back on target, is to try and be sure that whatever CPU and rom/ram are used for the PP have multiple sources and are going to be available for at least 4 years, and/or have upgrade path without losing (much) backward compatibility. Nokia N770 are a tad bitter about being left behind for a while. At least Zaurus 760/860 users can run 97% of the s/w for the 1000/3x00 (only the accelerated video drivers were a problem). |
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chiark Form Factor - Handheld Pc, Or Zaurus-style? Sep 26 2006, 01:26 PM
speculatrix I thought there was a port of linux (or netbsd?) t... Sep 27 2006, 03:28 AM bluedevils But wouldn't that put it in the same size as t... Sep 27 2006, 07:10 AM lardman I'm with chiark, the Psion series 5 was the id... Sep 27 2006, 07:56 AM
BarryW QUOTE(lardman @ Sep 27 2006, 06:56 AM)I'm... Sep 27 2006, 10:29 AM maxg I must agree. I have tried for a few days two UMPC... Sep 27 2006, 02:09 PM Da_Blitz i have seen that many people regard the c3000 as t... Sep 28 2006, 01:22 AM chiark QUOTE(speculatrix)I thought there was a port of li... Sep 28 2006, 03:15 AM speculatrix hmm. Is there any way we could buy Nokia 770 table... Sep 28 2006, 03:21 AM zmiq2 Da Blitz,
I totally agree with your view. I think... Sep 28 2006, 03:36 AM chiark Speculatrix:
Not quite what we're thinking of,... Sep 29 2006, 04:30 AM speculatrix QUOTE(chiark @ Sep 29 2006, 01:30 PM)http://w... Sep 29 2006, 06:08 AM Da_Blitz that gives me an idea or two Sep 29 2006, 06:04 AM MONVMENTVM While a friend of mine had a black Nintendo DS Lit... Nov 1 2006, 08:22 AM speculatrix you can run linux on the DS, but it's not part... Nov 1 2006, 08:33 AM raduga QUOTE(chiark @ Sep 26 2006, 01:26 PM)Wow, thi... Nov 1 2006, 08:44 AM MONVMENTVM yeah, besides that the ds has a small display, no ... Nov 1 2006, 09:31 AM Da_Blitz nice pic. i wish i had a ds to play with now to ge... Nov 1 2006, 07:16 PM Snappy I second the 5" screen on the calmshells. I w... Nov 5 2006, 03:00 AM kahm QUOTEThe UMPC is a technical product looking for a... Nov 8 2006, 09:26 AM futaris Around the DS lite size seems good. The mock up p... Nov 18 2006, 09:18 PM chiark yes, the 200lx would IMHO be a great design ethos ... Nov 20 2006, 03:48 AM speculatrix QUOTE(chiark @ Nov 20 2006, 12:48 PM)bought a... Nov 20 2006, 04:55 AM kahm QUOTE(chiark @ Nov 20 2006, 05:48 AM)yes, the... Nov 21 2006, 04:51 PM Da_Blitz i use to buy pants based on how large the pockets ... Nov 20 2006, 03:39 PM BarryW QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 20 2006, 02:39 PM)i use ... Nov 20 2006, 07:54 PM Da_Blitz actually no net accsess for 2 weeks, its tempting ... Nov 20 2006, 08:37 PM Ragnorok - The Psion 5mx is actually approximately the same... Nov 23 2006, 09:42 PM kahm QUOTE(Ragnorok @ Nov 23 2006, 11:42 PM)- I... Nov 25 2006, 05:19 PM Ragnorok - Dunno. I just know when I really get flying on ... Dec 1 2006, 06:52 AM kahm QUOTE(Ragnorok @ Dec 1 2006, 08:52 AM)- I agr... Dec 1 2006, 09:12 AM Da_Blitz i find if my hands are cold it gets hard to push t... Dec 1 2006, 10:28 PM Ragnorok - I do often set Hiro down, but not always. Now, ... Dec 6 2006, 05:33 PM Da_Blitz i have really been looking into the diffrent sizes... Dec 7 2006, 01:28 AM freizugheit Will the forthcoming ultra thin 12" Mac Book ... Dec 7 2006, 01:46 AM Da_Blitz actually i saw a core 2 duo laptop with 1G of ram... Dec 7 2006, 02:07 AM Ragnorok - I can't say I agree with the PDA-sized unit ... Jan 26 2007, 07:54 PM Da_Blitz no i agree with you on that. its just the way i sa... Jan 27 2007, 07:10 AM Ragnorok - Roit! Thanks for clarifying. I thought we ... Jan 29 2007, 05:28 PM Da_Blitz but what type of syncing?
for my "rig" ... Jan 29 2007, 06:40 PM speculatrix QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Jan 30 2007, 03:40 AM)but wh... Jan 30 2007, 02:35 AM Da_Blitz i have been reseraching distributed filesystems
i... Jan 30 2007, 03:50 AM zeigerpuppy QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Jan 30 2007, 03:50 AM)i have... Jan 30 2007, 07:08 AM Da_Blitz that support online faliure but not both devices r... Jan 30 2007, 06:32 PM Ragnorok - Dat were a joke! Syncing means nothing to m... Feb 6 2007, 07:43 PM Da_Blitz actually for someone who dosent want to sync anyth... Feb 7 2007, 02:35 AM zeigerpuppy Not sure if this is what you mean by syncing, but ... Feb 7 2007, 04:24 AM Da_Blitz this is going to be painful, im typing this at 100... Feb 7 2007, 04:46 AM zeigerpuppy I am actually quite interested in providing a mobi... Feb 7 2007, 04:52 AM Da_Blitz yeah if i remeber luster was the comercial fork of... Feb 10 2007, 05:39 PM speculatrix I put up some size comparisons here:
http://www.za... Feb 21 2007, 10:39 AM Snappy QUOTE(speculatrix @ Feb 22 2007, 07:46 PM)QUO... Feb 22 2007, 06:45 AM uMP2k Sorry if this one has already been posted on, but ... Mar 5 2007, 09:11 PM Da_Blitz not really
form factor has been a big thing for m... Feb 22 2007, 01:49 AM Da_Blitz im considering that for the laptop/umpc version, m... Mar 6 2007, 12:21 AM uMP2k QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Mar 6 2007, 06:21 PM)im cons... Mar 6 2007, 05:44 PM speculatrix it occurs to me that an interesting form factor wo... Mar 6 2007, 02:11 AM Da_Blitz actually i found the australian resseller of the s... Mar 6 2007, 10:32 PM Ragnorok QUOTEresseller of the software i want to use- ?? A... Jun 13 2007, 06:02 PM |
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