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Ferret-Simpson
post Oct 17 2006, 02:01 AM
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I think the biggest issue so far, has been that of the keyboard. Feel free to disagree.

Everyone and their grandmother has had their own idea of what they want from this. I've been after a keyboard similar to a Universal or Clamshell Zaurus, some have wanted chorded keyboards, some folding belkin-style keyboards, some just want a slate.

How about just MAKING a slate, without a keyboard. I propose that a separate keyboard is produced, however the heck anyone wants it, that connects to a port on the bottom of the device. You can have it on a cable, folding, with a Zaurus-style hinge on it so that it folds over the slate part. Whatever. You could either use a USB/M-USB connector, or attach it to the internal keyboard pins, (As long as they're capable of hotplugging.) What you'd end up with is a thicker display unit, and a thinner keyboard that you could flip out. You could carry a blooming Sun Type 6 130 odd key USB model instead, if you felt like it.

In fact, put the ATA connector on the same port and put the hard disk in the keyboard. That'll bulk up the keyboard a it, slim down the base unit, and let you decide again whether you want a 2.5GB notebook drive (With an external PSU or LARGE extra battery) a 1.8" CF-type Microdrive, a 60GB iPod drive, or a 256MB Flash card. Whatever floats your boat.
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Da_Blitz
post Oct 26 2006, 07:44 PM
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chiark: ill have to look at avalible LCD's before i can make that desison, perhaps if it was a 5.6" in a 16:9 format and a 4" 4:3 then at least one dimension should match up (which is what i want, i dont like to waste space) however a respun bouard with more on the pcb would be a better choice for a 5.6" screen

a2dp on linux isnt up to scratch last time i played with it, i might have forgotten a flag however but there is a known problem where exacttly 90 mins latter the kernel hangs sad.gif so i hope they have fixed that up

actually i have had that idea about vnc, but the way i see it is that it could be done better, in fact i am writing a libary at the moment for remote resource sharing (keyboard mause screen) mainly for sharing of the command line that allows for hotplugging of screens (local and remote) i dont think it will be that popular but i hope it inspires the X11 people as the KDE NMM project has somthing simmilar that only allows mirroring of hot plugged screens, not extension of desktop

but in the short term VNC, or even better raw X11 would be an option (X11 so that your PC does the actual rendering work while the PDA issues orders, basically you get a bit of extra performance on heveily graphical stuff and the ability to play openGL stuff on non DRI apps)

wirelees mesh networking is somthing i have been folowing and i quite like the OSLR stuff. that screen could be handy but ill aim for 4" at the moment

finally BT would be nice however ATM ill stick with USB as then i dont need a seperate charge connnector however it would be somthing to look into.

the other reason for usb is so that we can put things like an sd card reader in the keyboard instead (or an extra 3) or extra usb ports.
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Ferret-Simpson   Alternative Design For The Ppz   Oct 17 2006, 02:01 AM
Da_Blitz   that is a really good idea, provided i can come up...   Oct 17 2006, 03:14 AM
Da_Blitz   i might also add that every alternate keyboard des...   Oct 17 2006, 03:18 AM
morrijr   Now that is a *very* nice idea. As for securing t...   Oct 17 2006, 11:50 PM
Da_Blitz   i was thinking more like the psp with an external ...   Oct 18 2006, 12:51 AM
Ferret-Simpson   I knew I was a Genius!   Oct 22 2006, 01:17 PM
craigtyson   Ferret This Idea ties in realy well with a goal I...   Oct 22 2006, 04:05 PM
uMP2k   The description of something about PSP format with...   Oct 22 2006, 05:20 PM
BarryW   Wasn't there a pocket pc with a detachable key...   Oct 22 2006, 08:38 PM
stampsm   QUOTE(BarryW @ Oct 22 2006, 08:38 PM)Wasn...   Oct 23 2006, 01:02 AM
uMP2k   OMG - do I want one of those or what! Form fa...   Oct 22 2006, 11:19 PM
Da_Blitz   hahah, its 4:00 am here and i have work in about a...   Oct 23 2006, 10:28 AM
chiark   I had a nexio XP30, and it's the PDA that I...   Oct 24 2006, 12:50 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(chiark @ Oct 23 2006, 11:50 PM)I had a ...   Oct 24 2006, 12:34 PM
chiark   The idea was there, yes - definitely. I think the...   Oct 24 2006, 02:30 PM
Da_Blitz   QUOTEI personally don't want a view-only devic...   Oct 24 2006, 07:20 PM
stampsm   4 inch screen sounds good. sharp makes one LS040V7...   Oct 24 2006, 11:01 PM
chiark   No insult taken The nexio failed because whilst ...   Oct 25 2006, 01:24 AM
craigtyson   An odd idea I had in the bath last night.... Assu...   Oct 25 2006, 02:53 AM
wsuetholz   I like the idea of having the keyboard be a blueto...   Oct 25 2006, 10:21 AM
Da_Blitz   chiark: ill have to look at avalible LCD's bef...   Oct 26 2006, 07:44 PM
chiark   every 5" panel I know of runs at 800x480, so ...   Oct 27 2006, 05:27 AM
MONVMENTVM   I personally wouldn't like a detachable keyboa...   Nov 1 2006, 03:04 PM
Da_Blitz   the detachable keyboard is still a good idea if yo...   Nov 1 2006, 07:13 PM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 1 2006, 06:13 PM)the det...   Nov 1 2006, 07:19 PM
Ferret-Simpson   I'd also prefer the sound card to be onboard, ...   Nov 2 2006, 12:45 AM
Da_Blitz   actually thats the thing i find funny, i say move ...   Nov 2 2006, 03:46 AM
stampsm   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 03:46 AM)actuall...   Nov 3 2006, 04:14 AM
Da_Blitz   sorry missed a post, no battery in the screen/cpu ...   Nov 2 2006, 03:48 AM
Ferret-Simpson   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 12:48 PM)no batt...   Nov 2 2006, 04:17 PM
Da_Blitz   no offence but i see you as misintrperting alot of...   Nov 2 2006, 07:33 PM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 06:33 PM)it also...   Nov 2 2006, 08:12 PM
Da_Blitz   little from coulmn A and a little from coulmn B ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:31 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 11:31 PM)little ...   Nov 3 2006, 01:00 AM
Ferret-Simpson   Sounds like fun. You never worked at Gillingham, d...   Nov 3 2006, 03:39 AM
chiark   I am really, really liking the suggestion on form ...   Nov 3 2006, 10:09 AM
Da_Blitz   i am assuming a 5" in 16:9 would be about the...   Nov 4 2006, 04:08 AM
Ragnorok   - I'm not against a two-piece design, the disc...   Dec 6 2006, 06:16 PM
stampsm   you could do what motorola does with some of thier...   Dec 6 2006, 11:01 PM
Da_Blitz   i guess the usb audio idea is really somthing that...   Dec 7 2006, 12:18 AM
stampsm   yep i am of the design mind that if you do not use...   Dec 7 2006, 12:29 AM
stampsm   QUOTE(stampsm @ Dec 7 2006, 12:29 AM)yep i am...   Dec 7 2006, 11:23 PM
Da_Blitz   i think by the time i finshed this it will be a ra...   Dec 7 2006, 02:11 AM
Da_Blitz   breaking this up into 2 posts because i feel ther...   Dec 7 2006, 02:24 AM
stampsm   a range of products actually sounds like a much be...   Dec 7 2006, 11:38 PM
stampsm   well if you do use a 16/9 wide screen format scree...   Dec 7 2006, 11:55 PM
Da_Blitz   nice pic actually i haad my eye on those keyfobs ...   Dec 9 2006, 02:44 AM


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