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Ferret-Simpson
post Oct 17 2006, 02:01 AM
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I think the biggest issue so far, has been that of the keyboard. Feel free to disagree.

Everyone and their grandmother has had their own idea of what they want from this. I've been after a keyboard similar to a Universal or Clamshell Zaurus, some have wanted chorded keyboards, some folding belkin-style keyboards, some just want a slate.

How about just MAKING a slate, without a keyboard. I propose that a separate keyboard is produced, however the heck anyone wants it, that connects to a port on the bottom of the device. You can have it on a cable, folding, with a Zaurus-style hinge on it so that it folds over the slate part. Whatever. You could either use a USB/M-USB connector, or attach it to the internal keyboard pins, (As long as they're capable of hotplugging.) What you'd end up with is a thicker display unit, and a thinner keyboard that you could flip out. You could carry a blooming Sun Type 6 130 odd key USB model instead, if you felt like it.

In fact, put the ATA connector on the same port and put the hard disk in the keyboard. That'll bulk up the keyboard a it, slim down the base unit, and let you decide again whether you want a 2.5GB notebook drive (With an external PSU or LARGE extra battery) a 1.8" CF-type Microdrive, a 60GB iPod drive, or a 256MB Flash card. Whatever floats your boat.
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Da_Blitz
post Dec 7 2006, 02:24 AM
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breaking this up into 2 posts because i feel theree is a natural division

one problem with the keyboard bieng a backpack/connnector idea is that iit means the CPu gets pushed into the backof the screen, while not a huge problem it does limit howe much i can put around the eedges without making it to bulky

remeber i want to make it as thin as possiblle (the screen) and so i recomennded implemnting most stuff on the keyboard instead. well the other option is a thick screen and thin keyboard it affects thhe wieght ballence when using it like a mini laptop on a flat surface but thier are ways around it

also i people have mentioned they dont particuly llike the battery as a backpack idea and i am not sure why, it could be to do with the fact that many people see it as bieng implemented in a simmilar way to the old ipaqs, however when i mean backpack i mean samthing that sits flush with the back, cennected by the edge connector. once again its a pictures thing but it does make hot swapping battries a whole lot easier as well as offering a wide range of sizes

on second thoghts it might have been the idea of moving the audio into the battery pack. hard to tell but it comes domn to the screen thickness issues which i wonnt know too much about until i locate a lcd screen supplier i am happy with.

the edge connector is a trick one,do i just use mini usb or do i use a high denisty connector and chhuck other stuff on it as well. its a hard call i am leaning towards the usb connector because it then means you can use it without a backpack for somthing usefull (syncing, remote display) but perhaps have 2 usb connectors or a usb and a high density connector, i guess it all depends on how long i make this hinge. at the moment its looking to be wider than the Z without the screen rotation part, so any screen rotation ppart would have to be moulded into the accsesory end (not that big a loss in my opinion, if need be pull the back pack off and install the wrong way around wink.gif

all this talking thogh dosent add up to much, i need pictures. i just cant explain it very well and i think it relise a bit too much on people imagination. must look into that wink.gif

backpacks, whatt can i say about these they are not really "backpacks" in a traditonal scense but rather usb devices that are moulded to fit the PP case (not like on the ipaqs where it wrapped around the case but rather somthing that locks in to the swivel edge connector (possible exception may be the "battery only" pack however i could have indeentations on the bottom to make locking flat against the case easier aand more secure rather than wrap around the side and ruin the styling wink.gif)
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Ferret-Simpson   Alternative Design For The Ppz   Oct 17 2006, 02:01 AM
Da_Blitz   that is a really good idea, provided i can come up...   Oct 17 2006, 03:14 AM
Da_Blitz   i might also add that every alternate keyboard des...   Oct 17 2006, 03:18 AM
morrijr   Now that is a *very* nice idea. As for securing t...   Oct 17 2006, 11:50 PM
Da_Blitz   i was thinking more like the psp with an external ...   Oct 18 2006, 12:51 AM
Ferret-Simpson   I knew I was a Genius!   Oct 22 2006, 01:17 PM
craigtyson   Ferret This Idea ties in realy well with a goal I...   Oct 22 2006, 04:05 PM
uMP2k   The description of something about PSP format with...   Oct 22 2006, 05:20 PM
BarryW   Wasn't there a pocket pc with a detachable key...   Oct 22 2006, 08:38 PM
stampsm   QUOTE(BarryW @ Oct 22 2006, 08:38 PM)Wasn...   Oct 23 2006, 01:02 AM
uMP2k   OMG - do I want one of those or what! Form fa...   Oct 22 2006, 11:19 PM
Da_Blitz   hahah, its 4:00 am here and i have work in about a...   Oct 23 2006, 10:28 AM
chiark   I had a nexio XP30, and it's the PDA that I...   Oct 24 2006, 12:50 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(chiark @ Oct 23 2006, 11:50 PM)I had a ...   Oct 24 2006, 12:34 PM
chiark   The idea was there, yes - definitely. I think the...   Oct 24 2006, 02:30 PM
Da_Blitz   QUOTEI personally don't want a view-only devic...   Oct 24 2006, 07:20 PM
stampsm   4 inch screen sounds good. sharp makes one LS040V7...   Oct 24 2006, 11:01 PM
chiark   No insult taken The nexio failed because whilst ...   Oct 25 2006, 01:24 AM
craigtyson   An odd idea I had in the bath last night.... Assu...   Oct 25 2006, 02:53 AM
wsuetholz   I like the idea of having the keyboard be a blueto...   Oct 25 2006, 10:21 AM
Da_Blitz   chiark: ill have to look at avalible LCD's bef...   Oct 26 2006, 07:44 PM
chiark   every 5" panel I know of runs at 800x480, so ...   Oct 27 2006, 05:27 AM
MONVMENTVM   I personally wouldn't like a detachable keyboa...   Nov 1 2006, 03:04 PM
Da_Blitz   the detachable keyboard is still a good idea if yo...   Nov 1 2006, 07:13 PM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 1 2006, 06:13 PM)the det...   Nov 1 2006, 07:19 PM
Ferret-Simpson   I'd also prefer the sound card to be onboard, ...   Nov 2 2006, 12:45 AM
Da_Blitz   actually thats the thing i find funny, i say move ...   Nov 2 2006, 03:46 AM
stampsm   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 03:46 AM)actuall...   Nov 3 2006, 04:14 AM
Da_Blitz   sorry missed a post, no battery in the screen/cpu ...   Nov 2 2006, 03:48 AM
Ferret-Simpson   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 12:48 PM)no batt...   Nov 2 2006, 04:17 PM
Da_Blitz   no offence but i see you as misintrperting alot of...   Nov 2 2006, 07:33 PM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 06:33 PM)it also...   Nov 2 2006, 08:12 PM
Da_Blitz   little from coulmn A and a little from coulmn B ...   Nov 3 2006, 12:31 AM
BarryW   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Nov 2 2006, 11:31 PM)little ...   Nov 3 2006, 01:00 AM
Ferret-Simpson   Sounds like fun. You never worked at Gillingham, d...   Nov 3 2006, 03:39 AM
chiark   I am really, really liking the suggestion on form ...   Nov 3 2006, 10:09 AM
Da_Blitz   i am assuming a 5" in 16:9 would be about the...   Nov 4 2006, 04:08 AM
Ragnorok   - I'm not against a two-piece design, the disc...   Dec 6 2006, 06:16 PM
stampsm   you could do what motorola does with some of thier...   Dec 6 2006, 11:01 PM
Da_Blitz   i guess the usb audio idea is really somthing that...   Dec 7 2006, 12:18 AM
stampsm   yep i am of the design mind that if you do not use...   Dec 7 2006, 12:29 AM
stampsm   QUOTE(stampsm @ Dec 7 2006, 12:29 AM)yep i am...   Dec 7 2006, 11:23 PM
Da_Blitz   i think by the time i finshed this it will be a ra...   Dec 7 2006, 02:11 AM
Da_Blitz   breaking this up into 2 posts because i feel ther...   Dec 7 2006, 02:24 AM
stampsm   a range of products actually sounds like a much be...   Dec 7 2006, 11:38 PM
stampsm   well if you do use a 16/9 wide screen format scree...   Dec 7 2006, 11:55 PM
Da_Blitz   nice pic actually i haad my eye on those keyfobs ...   Dec 9 2006, 02:44 AM


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