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> New Zaurus Successor?, Kohjinsha SA1F00A/B UMPC 7'', x86@500MHz
nilch
post Dec 5 2006, 01:12 PM
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Kahm, when you do receive yours, can you compare with the Toshiba Libretto U100, since they are size-wise pretty close.

Having seen the little video demo at Conics, I am pretty much tempted to get one myself. But again how well will Linux load on this device and how fast - questions questions...
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post Dec 5 2006, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(kahm @ Dec 5 2006, 02:09 PM)
Have you tried any video on it? Will it boot from a USB DVD/CD-rom drive?
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Just tried a little XVID video encoded at 720x480 at about 1400 kbps (w/ full DVD AC3 audio) using MPlayer for Windows and it worked great. Nice and smooth, no apparent dropped frames. Obviously a lot depends on the material and the encoding, but its definitely possible to get good results on the Kohjinsha.

As for USB booting, the BIOS has support for it (both optical and HD/flash drive) so it should work but I haven't had a chance to try it.
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post Dec 6 2006, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(kopsis @ Dec 5 2006, 08:49 PM)
Just tried a little XVID video encoded at 720x480 at about 1400 kbps (w/ full DVD AC3 audio) using MPlayer for Windows and it worked great. Nice and smooth, no apparent dropped frames. Obviously a lot depends on the material and the encoding, but its definitely possible to get good results on the Kohjinsha.

As for USB booting, the BIOS has support for it (both optical and HD/flash drive) so it should work but I haven't had a chance to try it.
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Perfect - just what we were expecting. I've got a USB CDRW laying around somewhere that I'll test it with.

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Kahm, when you do receive yours, can you compare with the Toshiba Libretto U100, since they are size-wise pretty close.


I'm planning on writing up a very detailed comparison between the Libby, the Kohjinsha, and the Z. Its going to be apples to orange to bananas, though. The Libby costs more than twice as much as the Kohjinsha. I really see it positioned about halfway between the Z and the libby.

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Having seen the little video demo at Conics, I am pretty much tempted to get one myself. But again how well will Linux load on this device and how fast - questions questions...


Linux should be pretty good - the Pepperpad 3 is an almost identical hardware platform and it runs Fedora core 4...

I *think* it's been shipped. My order at conics has a tracking number posted, but I didn'\t get an email or any other info. Quite unlike my last purchase from Conics (A Sony Libie ebook reader...)
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post Dec 6 2006, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(kahm @ Dec 6 2006, 12:07 PM)
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Kahm, when you do receive yours, can you compare with the Toshiba Libretto U100, since they are size-wise pretty close.


I'm planning on writing up a very detailed comparison between the Libby, the Kohjinsha, and the Z. Its going to be apples to orange to bananas, though. The Libby costs more than twice as much as the Kohjinsha. I really see it positioned about halfway between the Z and the libby.



That's excactly what I would be most glad of - having a half-way point of upgrade to a worthy Zaurus replacement. I know that the U100 is damn costly, as a result of which the Kohjinsha appeals so much - price wise. And since size wise they are so similar - and if both do the same functionality (albeit the Kohjinsha at a slower pace because of its slower chip), then getting the Kohjinsha becomes more acceptable over the Libby U100.

Thansk Kahm. Looking forweard to the side by side comparisons soon.
(and stowing all all the extra money under the mattress, me thinks, will get this little beauty). rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 6 2006, 11:28 AM
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I'd be interested in your opinion on how usable Firefox and OpenOffice feel on this bugger, compared to MSIE and MSOffice...

TIA,
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post Dec 6 2006, 03:14 PM
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I would be interested in seeing side-to-side comparison picures with a Zaurus.

Would that be possible?

PS.- it seems that the oqo 2 has been sent to FCC for approval, so soon we'll have another option, probably double the price though (seen at engadget.com)
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post Dec 7 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(zmiq2 @ Dec 6 2006, 05:14 PM)
I would be interested in seeing side-to-side comparison picures with a Zaurus.

Would that be possible?

PS.- it seems that the oqo 2 has been sent to FCC for approval, so soon we'll have another option, probably double the price though (seen at engadget.com)
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I have a new camera to play with. smile.gif I'll be shooting everything from my 15" IBM A21p all the way down the Zaurus. I could also include the Libretto 110CT and 50CT/50M, and a Panasonic Toughbook CF-M34 if anyone wants smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2006, 05:36 AM
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I'd like to see it next to the Libretto U100, as I own one and was interested in the size difference. I am finding that I don't need something as powerful as the Libretto and having something with a longer than 3 hour battery life would be more appropriate for what I use the Libretto for.
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post Dec 8 2006, 10:30 AM
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kahm,

you are my hero for having such amount of computing power but in small packages! i wonder where do you get all that cash and that waf (wife acceptance factor) ;-)
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post Dec 8 2006, 11:52 AM
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Kopsis (and anyone esle who already has it in their hands), how does the Kohjinsha feel ruggedness wise in the hands and on the road ? Does it have that built-strong feeling or is it flimsy and breakable kind of construction (cheap usually means some cut-backs in the build department) ?
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post Dec 8 2006, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(drnick @ Dec 8 2006, 07:36 AM)
I'd like to see it next to the Libretto U100, as I own one and was interested in the size difference.  I am finding that I don't need something as powerful as the Libretto and having something with a longer than 3 hour battery life would be more appropriate for what I use the Libretto for.
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From the dimensions, it will be about the same size as a Libby. It will *seem* a bit bigger because i'm including the battery pack sticking out of the back of the Libby when I'm comparing dimensions. Weight is a hair less (20g)?
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post Dec 8 2006, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(nilch @ Dec 8 2006, 02:52 PM)
Kopsis (and anyone esle who already has it in their hands), how does the Kohjinsha feel ruggedness wise in the hands and on the road ? Does it have that built-strong feeling or is it flimsy and breakable kind of construction (cheap usually means some cut-backs in the build department) ?
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For it's size and weight, the Kohjinsha feels like a pretty solid machine. No creaking or flexing when you handle it. The hinge feels smooth and strong with no play or "slop". The LCD is behind a solid piece of clear plastic that extends all the way to the edges of the lid, so the LCD itself is not exposed. Obviously there's no fragile touch-screen to worry about. Supposedly Kohjinsha has tested it to withstand 100 kg load with the lid closed -- but I don't think I'm brave enought to try to verify their results smile.gif

A Panasonic Toughbook it's not smile.gif, but in general I'd say the Kohjinsha feels much more solid than most of the Sony and Dell laptops I've used. I think it's safe to say that the cost savings came from strategic component selection (800x480 screen with no touch panel, AMD Geode 800LX CPU, etc.) and not from cutting corners on mechanical design and construction.
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post Dec 9 2006, 07:16 AM
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So Dave :

On your blog you mentioned being on the road with your new toy this week... how did that go ? :-)
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post Dec 9 2006, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(fpp @ Dec 9 2006, 10:16 AM)
So Dave :

On your blog you mentioned being on the road with your new toy this week... how did that go ? :-)
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I haven't had time to get the photos in, but the text of my SA1F mini-review is now online.

This is a sneak preview of the review exclusively for OESF members. Please don't post it elsewhere or link to it yet. I'll get photos in sometime next week and link a blog post to it and then it's fair game smile.gif
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post Dec 9 2006, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(kopsis @ Dec 9 2006, 06:26 PM)
Please don't post it elsewhere or link to it yet.[/i]
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