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xjqian
post Mar 14 2007, 09:30 PM
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As most of your know the 6000L is an odd breed compared to other Zauri, esp the clamshells, where availability and dev activities are high. Hence Tosa ROM version is behind others except for OZ/Angstrom where the key dev. Hrw has the device.

Current Tosa ROM status in the other popular rom is pretty disappointing

PdaXrom: beta1
Cacko: None

I've been whining for a long time without contributing. Part of the reason is that I don't know where should my effort go. I have to admit that I'm not even close to software engineer in trade and pretty inexperienced in the whole thing. But I'm pretty confident in my learning ability to get some Tosa dev going.

For a starter, I'm interested to advance PdaXrom to a stable/usable 2.4 kernel, similar to what Meanie did for pdaXii. (weed out bugs, etc. ) Who else is interested and have time to contribute? We probably need some sort of infrastructure (svn, emaillist, bugtracker, etc.) Could we borrow what's available in the PdaXrom site? Should we get together and form a team?

Btw, anybody interested in a Cacko ROM for Tosa?

I can probably commit half an hour per day for the project after my thesis defense.
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post Mar 14 2007, 11:29 PM
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We probably need some sort of infrastructure (svn, emaillist, bugtracker, etc.)

n/p to bring it up and manage as soon as there will be a team to use it
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post Mar 15 2007, 12:05 AM
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my .02 us would be to:
work on the pdax kernel (is beta 1 missing anything from beta3? patch it?)

see if big SD support can be done

work on using the hdimage from pdaxii13 on sd (or cf if necessary)

get the wifi working with the wifi applet (or script up another one--ncurses even would do, if it was effective)

then all would be well..


besides the kernel and the sd module and the wireless.... what really would need a major overhaul? wink.gif

I take it Angstrom for the 6000 isn't looking hopeful?
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post Mar 15 2007, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(adf @ Mar 15 2007, 03:05 AM)
my .02 us would be to:
work on the pdax kernel (is beta 1 missing anything from beta3? patch it?)
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That's exactly what I want to start with, patch beta1 with beta3, then diff beta3 with Meanie's pdaXii and squash bugs. I don't want to overhaul, it's just there're too many pesting bugs in beta1.
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post Apr 5 2007, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(xjqian @ Mar 15 2007, 05:30 AM)
Who else is interested and have time to contribute? We probably need some sort of infrastructure (svn, emaillist, bugtracker, etc.) Could we borrow what's available in the PdaXrom site? Should we get together and form a team?

I can probably commit half an hour per day for the project after my thesis defense.
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I'd be interested in such a thing, but I could only contribute about the same amount of time unfortunately.. possibly slightly more so, depending.



QUOTE(xjqian @ Mar 15 2007, 08:24 AM)
QUOTE(adf @ Mar 15 2007, 03:05 AM)
my .02 us would be to:
work on the pdax kernel (is beta 1 missing anything from beta3? patch it?)
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That's exactly what I want to start with, patch beta1 with beta3, then diff beta3 with Meanie's pdaXii and squash bugs. I don't want to overhaul, it's just there're too many pesting bugs in beta1.
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Some unorganized thoughts on the matter:

Personally, I'm not very happy with beta3 compared to beta1. Having gotten a 3200 expecting beta3 to be much better than beta1 on a 6000, I was sorely disappointed.
Furthermore, pdaxii13 is largely a set of patches for problems that AFAIK exist *only* in beta3 (i.e clamshells,), so a lot of these problems are not applicable to beta1 on the tosa.

The 2.6 kernel series is a whole different story, and it's where the "official" bug fixes are headed as far as I can tell. It's really won my vote so far over beta3 with or without Meanie's patches. If we could at least get the tosa to *run* a 2.6 kernel in pdaxrom, then we'd all be on the same page as far as the ROM is concerned. And there's a considerable number of problems to face even if anyone were to get that far.

However variety is the spice of life, and many people prefer the "stability" of the 2.4 kernel to the enhancements that come with 2.6.

IMHO, trying to get u-boot to load on the tosa would usher in the 2.6 kernel series, and would solve many problems. It's also the path that pdaxrom sorely needs. This could be a good start to solve a lot of problems missing in the 2.4 series, notably the large SD support. That's unfortunately beyond me right now as the 3200 has nearly taken away all of my 'zaurus time' from the 6000... I'm still trying to find a good balance in this respect.

A Suggestion:

We'd need a more stable host for enhancements than this forum: perhaps pdaxrom.org or tyrannozaurus.com? pdaxrom has moved it's SVN to sourceforge.net.... that might be a good place to start as well.

Is anyone still interested in this?
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post Apr 5 2007, 05:01 PM
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Interested? Definitely. Able to port uboot to the 6000---well it is theorically possible that I could do it...kind of in the way an infinite number of monkeys can produce shakespeare, only it might take longer because I'm doing other stuff, too. biggrin.gif
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xjqian   Tosa Development Plan   Mar 14 2007, 09:30 PM
gfdsa   QUOTEWe probably need some sort of infrastructure ...   Mar 14 2007, 11:29 PM
adf   my .02 us would be to: work on the pdax kernel (i...   Mar 15 2007, 12:05 AM
xjqian   QUOTE(adf @ Mar 15 2007, 03:05 AM)my .02 us w...   Mar 15 2007, 12:24 AM
adf   that sounds about right. It occurred to me after ...   Mar 15 2007, 11:04 AM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(xjqian @ Mar 15 2007, 05:30 AM)Who else...   Apr 5 2007, 03:25 PM
adf   Interested? Definitely. Able to port uboot to the ...   Apr 5 2007, 05:01 PM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 6 2007, 01:01 AM)Interested? ...   Apr 5 2007, 08:13 PM
adf   I think the way softfloat is done on the OZ kernel...   Apr 5 2007, 08:19 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(radiochickenwax @ Apr 5 2007, 11:13 PM)...   Apr 7 2007, 01:50 AM
gagware   QUOTE(adf @ Mar 15 2007, 10:05 AM)I take it A...   Apr 1 2007, 02:55 AM
xjqian   QUOTE(gagware @ Apr 1 2007, 05:55 AM)Actually...   Apr 1 2007, 04:19 AM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 6 2007, 04:19 AM)How hard wou...   Apr 5 2007, 08:52 PM
adf   Yeah-- I kinda hate to mess with mine-- the tetsu/...   Apr 5 2007, 09:47 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 6 2007, 12:47 AM)2.6 OZ/Angst...   Apr 7 2007, 02:03 AM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(xjqian @ Apr 7 2007, 10:03 AM)QUOTE(adf...   Apr 7 2007, 11:16 AM
adf   Maybe we should have a look at what HRW does with ...   Apr 7 2007, 11:18 AM
speculatrix   one thing I'd like to see is unionfs support b...   Apr 6 2007, 01:12 AM
adf   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 6 2007, 09:12 AM)one ...   Apr 6 2007, 07:01 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 7 2007, 02:18 PM)Maybe we sho...   Apr 7 2007, 07:13 PM
koen   QUOTE(xjqian @ Apr 8 2007, 03:13 AM)OZ people...   Apr 8 2007, 07:14 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(koen @ Apr 8 2007, 04:14 PM)And talking...   Apr 8 2007, 02:17 PM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(xjqian @ Apr 8 2007, 03:13 AM)I'm f...   Apr 8 2007, 12:06 PM
adf   So what we are really looking at is either a tidie...   Apr 8 2007, 12:18 PM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 8 2007, 08:18 PM)So what we a...   Apr 8 2007, 12:31 PM
radiochickenwax   An update: U -boot seems to flash properly on the...   Apr 8 2007, 01:40 PM
adf   I can agree to a distro...any distro. The thing i...   Apr 8 2007, 03:09 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(koen @ Apr 8 2007, 10:14 AM)That's ...   Apr 10 2007, 12:20 AM
radiochickenwax   I agree that there are definite advantages to a Sh...   Apr 10 2007, 10:24 AM
adf   cacko never quite worked right. Guylhem was trying...   Apr 10 2007, 06:52 PM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 11 2007, 02:52 AM)cacko never...   Apr 13 2007, 03:29 PM
adf   Angstrom sounds hopeful, at least. I haven't ...   Apr 13 2007, 07:11 PM
Hrw   Ok. Let me write few words. Yes, I have a tosa he...   Apr 20 2007, 05:52 AM
adf   I've flashed to Angstrom- it seems to work. ne...   Apr 20 2007, 04:11 PM
Hrw   QUOTE(adf @ Apr 21 2007, 02:11 AM)edit: I ten...   Apr 20 2007, 11:03 PM
radiochickenwax   Here are some funny links related to this thread: ...   Apr 20 2007, 07:25 PM
koen   QUOTE(radiochickenwax @ Apr 21 2007, 03:25 AM...   Apr 20 2007, 08:21 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(radiochickenwax @ Apr 21 2007, 01:25 PM...   Apr 22 2007, 12:31 AM
radiochickenwax   QUOTE(Meanie @ Apr 22 2007, 08:31 AM)Alternat...   Apr 22 2007, 02:48 PM
adf   that could be very interesting   Apr 22 2007, 08:45 PM
radiochickenwax   Yeah, I've been wanting to do something like t...   Apr 23 2007, 04:01 PM
adf   QUOTE(radiochickenwax @ Apr 24 2007, 12:01 AM...   Apr 23 2007, 07:25 PM
radiochickenwax   This sorta reminds me of the etched marble experim...   Apr 24 2007, 10:19 AM


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