Cf Card, Changing the type II for I Options

[baptista]

Hi people: I´m working with my collie with a 500Mb card type II. Now for a mistake I received a card type I with 1 GB. Any problem to read the data and transfer it for ancient to new card?.
Thanks for any help
baptista

[Capn_Fish]

There should be no issue with transfering the data.

[baptista]

Thankyou for the help Capn_Fish, but I can´t eject the CF via applet or terminal: umount /mnt/cf, what is wrong?. Excuse me the little aknowlegment, thanks again.
baptista

[InSearchOf]

Maybe an application is using it...

Late

[Antikx]

What is it saying when you try to eject the card via terminal?

[baptista]

I´m saying that I umount it from terminal and them would be possivel to eject it via aplet. Is it correct? Thanks for the help
baptista

[baptista]

Thanks to everybody that try to help me. At last I meet the way. I suspend the collie, push out the CF card II copy it to CF card type I via a memory reader writer and insert CF type I to the machine, that all. The only thing is that this type of card is not detected by the applet, so it is not necessary to eject it (I think so...). Nevertheles everything is functioning OK.
baptista

[sdjf]

I am very suspicious about your having to suspend collie to eject card.. I believe the correct command to enter is:

umount /dev/hda1

are you sure the card is not corrupt? I wrote a bunch about this in my blog, about a card I ended up returning, at

http://sdjf.wordpress.com/tag/cf-card-issues

Maybe it isn't relevant, as I don't know about the type I, type II CF card issue.

But, here's the info, in case it might help someone. It turned out wordpress had not accepted most of my final post on the issue, but I have now edited out the binary and anyone who saw it before, the conclusion is now truly on the web.

sdjf

EDIT: I checked on card types, and that seems to just be a matter of physical thickness of the card itself. If it fits properly into the slot, it shouldn't matter.

[sdjf]

BTW, if your umount command is successful, the CF card applet will show that it has been ejected...you do not have to do both.

If something is hanging on to the Card, then ideally one should shut down or kill that process to keep from damaging any data, just to be on the safe side.

And actually, I would use "cardctl eject" instead, since you really did want to eject the card once you were done with transferring the data off of it to internal memory or SD card.

My two cents worth...for future reference.
sdjf

[sdjf]

Here's some more info in case none of the commands work.

First, some questions. What is on the card? And what happens when you can't get it to eject? Post a cut/paste of what you enter and see in the console.

Another thing to do is run "ps ax | more" to get a full list of everything that is running. Do you see anything that might be holding on to the card? If you are not sure, then paste the output here.

Can't help much more without seeing some output.
sdjf

[sdjf]

Another thing you may need to do to get control of the CF card ejection, is to use some qcop commands.

An easy way to test if you need to upgrade to qcop2 is run the following.

qcop QPE/Application/clock 'raise()'

If the clock raises (appears), you are okay. If it does not, then get information about upgrading your qcop at my qcop page:

http://www.sdjf.esmartdesign.com/ipks/qcop.html

sdjf

[baptista]

Thankyou very much sdjf for your interest in help me, I have in the card some programs, a lot of books in pdf, gzip and hamcomword. Many musics and some films(clips).
The command about qcop functions, the clock appear!
The first command you send to me answer a lot of things that if I have time enough, i´ll send to you today or tomorrow, I think that some of them make reference to the card but I´m not sure now.
Now we (I..) are very near of a solution.
It happens the same thing with the SD card, that has 256 MB (SD), but it is not so necessary to eject, because the CF card I need to eject it to put a modem card or a WiFi card.
Regards from
baptista

[sdjf]

You are welcome. That's what oesf is all about, helping each other.

I think you will find the output of 'ps ax|more' interesting, and it is good to hear that your qcop command functions well. I piped the output through more because that way the lines of the display will not get cut off and you can see more information.

If you close all programs that use the SD card which show in the list, it should eject without a problem. But if you have programs installed using the GUI installer, onto the SD card, you can't eject it without uninstalling them! That is why I install everything to internal memory, and then move the program binaries to the SD card afterwards. Then I make symlinks to them from the first directory in my path, /home/QtPalmtop/bin. But I leave the console in internal memory so I can always use it, no matter what.

Oh, I suggest you post the output here instead of sending it to me personally, so everyone else can help or learn also.

Cheers,
sdjf

This post has been edited by sdjf: May 1 2007, 01:17 PM

[baptista]

Hi sdjf, here goes the answer of the console to the command you said:


PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? S 0:03 init
2 ? SW 0:04 [keventd]
3 ? DW 0:00 [swapper]
4 ? DW 0:00 [swapper]
5 ? SW 0:00 [swapper]
6 ? SW 73:42 [kapm-idled] 7 ? SWN 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
8 ? SW 5:04 [kswapd]
9 ? SW 0:00 [bdflush]
10 ? SW 0:25 [kupdated]
11 ? DW 0:00 [swapper]
12 ? SW 0:29 [mtdblockd] 96 ? S 0:00 /sbin/sdmgr 130 ? S 0:06 /sbin/cardmgr
149 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
159 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap
169 ? S 0:00 /home/QtPalmtop/bin/atd /var/spool/at
206 ? S 0:48 /usr/local/bin/tssimd
208 ? S 0:54 /sbin/shsync 367 ? SN 0:00 /usr/local/bin/fbvncserver -double -rfbauth /home/zau
437 ? S 0:00 /sbin/launch 438 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh ./qpe.sh
1188 ? SN 1:25 qpe -owner zaurus.qpe
1189 ? SN 0:00 qeserver zaurus qpe
1191 ? SN 0:02 qeserver zaurus qpe
1220 ? SN 0:00 addressbook -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-addressbook
1221 ? SN 0:00 todolist -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-todolist
1222 ? SN 0:00 qtmail -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-qtmail
1223 ? SN 1:51 stageone -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-stageone
1224 ? SN 0:55 kopi -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-kopi
1225 ? SN 0:26 kapi -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-kapi
1226 ? SN 0:00 datebook -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-datebook
1229 ? SN 0:50 launcher -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-launcher
1230 ? SN 0:07 qeserver zaurus qpe
1231 ? SN 0:06 qeserver zaurus qpe
1232 ? SN 0:05 qeserver zaurus qpe
1233 ? SN 0:57 qeserver zaurus qpe
1718 ? SN 0:02 embeddedkonsole -qcop /tmp/qcop-msg-embeddedkonsole 1719 ttya0 SN 0:00 /bin/bash
1720 ttya0 RN 0:00 ps ax
1721 ttya0 SN 0:00 more

When I try to eject the CF card with thw collie on the response is:
(Eject card 0: ATA/IDE FixedDisk) :
CF/PMCIA ejct failed
(Ejecting SD-card):
Failed to eject the card. Please eject the card after you close all applications and turn off the Zaurus.
In fact I have installed KOPI/KAPI in the SD but also in the file browser appear files of it in the /home/zaurus.
Why would not be the samething for ejecting CF card?

Excuse me if i spoke many things wrong.... Well now I wait your evr kind response, and would like to have some explication abou all this, if you have patience.
Greatfully
baptista

[sdjf]

Let's talk about one card at a time, to keep from getting confused. Let's focus on the CF card as that is the most urgent.

I want to see the command you entered, not just the output.

Also, are any of these programs ones that are looking at files on the CF card? Forgive me, I do not know what some of those apps are in your list. I also do not know if it is a CF data card or a CF modem card that you are trying to eject. What to do depends on which.

What please, are stageone, kopi, and kapi?
sdjf