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speculatrix
post Jun 19 2007, 03:34 AM
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I'm still wondering whether I can get my new employer to buy me one... the snag is they'd probably make me give back the lovely 15" macbook pro sad.gif
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post Jun 23 2007, 10:02 AM
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Conics has them posted now. $1425 US for the base model, +$170US to go to 1gb ram.

I'm waiting on a cheque to come in before I order. I expect I'll have it in a month or so sad.gif
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post Jun 26 2007, 02:01 PM
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I've heard that people with other Fujitsu laptops have problems installing linux as either F don't supply drivers at all, or crappy ones and only for 2.4 kernels. However, I'd love to hear that linux runs just fine on these. I quite like the way the Sony UX series have been made to run Mac OSX!
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post Jun 26 2007, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jun 26 2007, 02:01 PM)
II quite like the way the Sony UX series have been made to run Mac OSX!
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Speculatrix,

Any pointer for the above statement.
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post Jun 26 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(freizugheit @ Jun 26 2007, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jun 26 2007, 02:01 PM)
II quite like the way the Sony UX series have been made to run Mac OSX!
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Speculatrix,

Any pointer for the above statement.
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Try this one for starters, freizugheit.....

http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2140

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post Jun 27 2007, 05:55 AM
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Fujitsu webshop has them for 117432 Yen now, which is about 950USD.
No mention of BT but you get a 3-year warranty.

I'm still planning on getting a kohjinsha, but this thingie is not so bad either, gonna have to check what it looks and feels like. If only kohjinsha wasn't such a toy... less unused space around the screen + a better keyboard would make kohjinsha a real winner.
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post Jun 28 2007, 12:42 PM
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I wish the Fujitsu would shrink by another 1/3 in size or so tongue.gif Still, at 580g it's light.

I was going to buy a Sony UX, but I put that off until the Flipstart came out, just in case. When the Flipstart turned out to be such a let down (ugly, heavy, not enough ram, price+++) I despaired, for I did not want it.

Not long after, Intel announced it's new processors and pics of the Fujitsu hit the net, so I put off buying again.

Now, I have a choice between the Sony and the Fujitsu.

The Sony has BT and more power. It also has a horrible keyboard and lacks an SD card slot. The CF slot is also so slow that it's only real use would be for punishing small children. Most importantly, it's not a clamshell.

The Fujitsu *is* a clamshell and has an SD slot. The keyboard looks much nicer, except for the niggling lack of dedicated arrow keys, etc. Presumably the battery life will be a little better as well. No bluetooth, though.

Neither of them are pocketable. I'll probably have to wait till Menlow next year for that. Damn.

As for Linux drivers, I'm not so sure that's going to matter as much to me this time around. I've become quite taken with virtualization on my Macbook. I'll definitely be trying out installing linux on a virtual machine on whatever one I do get.

I've got cardboard mockups of the Sony, Fujitsu, and the Raon Digital Everun sitting here, just to compare sizes. The Raon is tempting for the single fact that it does one thing that neither of the other two even come close to doing - it fits neatly into my jacket pocket. I just don't know if I could deal with that keyboard.

Right now, I'm planning on the Fujitsu. Further info on the Raon may change that plan, or I may just end up getting them both biggrin.gif The Sony was never really the machine I wanted. Now that the palmtop computing market is opening up there are finally better options out there.
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post Jun 28 2007, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(kahm @ Jun 28 2007, 01:42 PM)
I wish the Fujitsu would shrink by another 1/3 in size or so tongue.gif Still, at 580g it's light.

I was going to buy a Sony UX, but I put that off until the Flipstart came out, just in case. When the Flipstart turned out to be such a let down (ugly, heavy, not enough ram, price+++) I despaired, for I did not want it.

Not long after, Intel announced it's new processors and pics of the Fujitsu hit the net, so I put off buying again.

Now, I have a choice between the Sony and the Fujitsu.

The Sony has BT and more power. It also has a horrible keyboard and lacks an SD card slot. The CF slot is also so slow that it's only real use would be for punishing small children. Most importantly, it's not a clamshell.

The Fujitsu *is* a clamshell and has an SD slot. The keyboard looks much nicer, except for the niggling lack of dedicated arrow keys, etc. Presumably the battery life will be a little better as well. No bluetooth, though.

Neither of them are pocketable. I'll probably have to wait till Menlow next year for that. Damn.

As for Linux drivers, I'm not so sure that's going to matter as much to me this time around. I've become quite taken with virtualization on my Macbook. I'll definitely be trying out installing linux on a virtual machine on whatever one I do get.

I've got cardboard mockups of the Sony, Fujitsu, and the Raon Digital Everun sitting here, just to compare sizes. The Raon is tempting for the single fact that it does one thing that neither of the other two even come close to doing - it fits neatly into my jacket pocket. I just don't know if I could deal with that keyboard.

Right now, I'm planning on the Fujitsu. Further info on the Raon may change that plan, or I may just end up getting them both biggrin.gif The Sony was never really the machine I wanted. Now that the palmtop computing market is opening up there are finally better options out there.
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Hey, kahm, I'm right in there with you in terms of struggling to make a decision....

However, I trying to decide between the U8240 and the new Kohjinsha SH6 series.

Boy, you must have good eyesight if you'd like the U8240 even smaller....also, pretty tiny fingers too.... I had the ol' Sony Vaio U101 sometime ago, which is almost the same size as the U8240 and it was a b%*#$ to type on....So, the U8240 is about as small as I'm gonna go with a keyboard....which is also why I'm thinking about the new Kohjinsha as it has a bit larger keyboard and display too...

Since neither one fits in your pocket (well, at least pockets I have...) then the difference in size is less of an issue for me.....

Decisions, decisions.....

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post Jun 28 2007, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Jun 26 2007, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE(freizugheit @ Jun 26 2007, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jun 26 2007, 02:01 PM)
II quite like the way the Sony UX series have been made to run Mac OSX!
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Speculatrix,

Any pointer for the above statement.
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Try this one for starters, freizugheit.....

http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2140

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ArchiMark,

Thanks for the pointer.
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post Jun 29 2007, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Jun 28 2007, 03:28 PM)
Hey, kahm, I'm right in there with you in terms of struggling to make a decision....

However, I trying to decide between the U8240 and the new Kohjinsha SH6 series.


I currently have a Libretto U100, and a friend of mine has an original Kohjinsha. I want the Fujitsu because it's much smaller than either of them. 7" UMPCs just seem so big and clunky. smile.gif

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Boy, you must have good eyesight if you'd like the U8240 even smaller....also, pretty tiny fingers too.... I had the ol' Sony Vaio U101 sometime ago, which is almost the same size as the U8240 and it was a b%*#$ to type on....So, the U8240 is about as small as I'm gonna go with a keyboard....which is also why I'm thinking about the new Kohjinsha as it has a bit larger keyboard and display too...


I played with a Sony UX in the store, which has a 4.5 inch 1024x600 screen - more than an inch smaller than the Fujitsu's - and I *loved* it. The screen on the fujitsu is the same PPI as the Zaurus (~200), vs the Sony (~263?). Personally, I'd consider about 300ppi just about right, but nothing is quite there yet.

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Since neither one fits in your pocket (well, at least pockets I have...) then the difference in size is less of an issue for me.....


Well, I've just found out that the Everun can be used as a phone, as well as fitting in my pocket. That means I'm probably not going to get an Openmoko (or an iPhone). I'll be putting that money towards an Everun now tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2007, 04:56 AM
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Well, guys, FWIW, I got the SH6 (1GB RAM/100GB HD/Vista Home Premium) from Conics about 10 days ago..... and so far REALLY like it a lot!

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For me, it really is a nice compromise between size (very usable keyboard/sharp bright display...), performance, and portability (not pocketable but neither is the U8240...). Looks good too....

Performs much better than I expected even with Vista....found out a few days after I got it that you can replace the 1GB RAM with a 2 GB RAM stick....so did that and got another boost....

So, very happy with this lil' puppy.....

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post Jul 20 2007, 05:05 AM
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ArchiMark,


can you please post some pics, with a zaurus next to it ?

are you planning on installing linux on this unit?

Congratulations!
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post Jul 20 2007, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(ralphrmartin @ Apr 26 2007, 09:01 AM)
I can see NO controls in Vista or Linux to tell the whole system of the dpi resolution.
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(this is a response to an old posting, but I just be tweaking kde having installed suse10.2 on my work apple power book with external/2ndry 24" hires screen)

the X11 settings say the screen resolution, and if you run KDE *every* item on screen can be tuned. I know, because I have been doing just that to make it useable on a 1900x1200 24" display.

we don't care what you can or can't do in windows, this is a zaurus/linux forum! ph34r.gif
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post Jul 20 2007, 08:39 PM
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Well, I bit the bullet today and shelled out for a Fujitsu from Conics.

U1010 (U8240)
1gb Ram
40gb HD
WinXP
1xstandard battery
1xextended battery
extra power brick
docking station

I expect up to 3 weeks to receive it, though. sad.gif

In the meantime, I've clock-locked my Libretto down to 800mhz (also 1gb ram) to emulate the experience. I'm running vmware images of Vista and Kubuntu 7.07 on it. (And I'll add OSX if I can...)

Vista runs about as well as can be expected. The vmware Kubuntu is much nicer smile.gif

As far as Linux compatibility on the U1010 goes, the wireless chipset is Atheros and the trackpoint is Alps, so that should be fine. I haven't confirmed any of the other drivers yet. I might set aside a few gigs of HD to play with native installs.
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post Jul 21 2007, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(kahm @ Jul 21 2007, 05:39 AM)
Well, I bit the bullet today and shelled out for a Fujitsu from Conics.
I expect up to 3 weeks to receive it, though. sad.gif


I really hope it turns out to be worth the wait and much better than your OQO experience. My wife has her beady eye on my Sony TX2 so I might be next in line. My brother might be going to Japan soon and I'd hope he could buy me one there.

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In the meantime, I've clock-locked my Libretto down to 800mhz (also 1gb ram) to emulate the experience. I'm running vmware images of Vista and Kubuntu 7.07 on it. (And I'll add OSX if I can...)


huh? what's the native OS then? Why not install linux as host and put vista as guest?


do let us know as soon as possible how you get on!
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