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A5DF
post Jun 30 2007, 05:16 PM
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Am I the only one who would like to see a port of OpenMoko for Zaurus?
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post Jul 1 2007, 10:19 AM
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koen,

I think the huge screaming rant is directly related to needing to google for angstrom's roadmap when they are too lazy to update it themselves? If you want to be a smart ass, maybe you should start with yourself first. Something about throwing rocks at glass houses?
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post Jul 1 2007, 11:51 AM
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HEADLINE ANGRY ANGSTROM DEV POSTS PISSY RANT RATHER THAN USEFUL INFO!

actually the rant was expected--as talented as he is, koen is easily needled. I think I'll do it again.
after long intermiiant exposure to OZ and angstrom one thing has become clear. Despite hard work and good intentions ( I thinK) the OE based distros quite frequently do not acheive what theyare predicted to acheive, and often allow serious defects (from a user perspective) to fester for unusually long periods. Given the experienced, and documentable on this forum, disconnects between dev claims and actual performance in the hands of an end user, it seems that devoting much time to the mailing lists as a non-developer would not prove fruitful.

Given this, it is reasonable to lean more on offcial openmoko status reports (which are in my experience not very common or informative, though this is quite reasonable in a pre-release product), and also reasonable to largely ignore, as an end user, the angstrom mailing lists.

To put it more briefly--can you, without any tweaking install firefox from from the gui package manager and have a working installation of firefox? Last I heard FF doesn't run on angstrom, though it is in the feeds.

I'm sure keon or someone will come back with some "show how smart you are and use your computer like an abacus" type justification for this or any similar issue smile.gif

(disclaimer --I am quite aware that OZ, OE, Angstrom, have made serious progress in the development of handheld linux, and that the effects of that progress are widely beneficial. I think there would be some interest here in an Z openmoko port, which was , I believe, the intent of the original post. My followup was based on the speculation that as things get polished in openmoko and buildable in OE they find their way into Angstrom, one way or another)
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post Jul 1 2007, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(adf @ Jul 1 2007, 07:51 PM)
HEADLINE ANGRY ANGSTROM DEV POSTS PISSY RANT RATHER THAN USEFUL INFO!


I gave usefull info, just launch google and search for 'angstrom openmoko'

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To put it more briefly--can you, without any tweaking install firefox from from the gui package manager and have a working installation of firefox?  Last I heard FF doesn't run on angstrom, though it is in the feeds.


firefox doesn't work on arm/eabi, period. Check the OE and debian bugtracker for details. It is in the feeds so people can debug it to get it working, as was outlined in the mailinglist.

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I believe, the intent of the original post. My followup was based on the speculation that as things get polished in openmoko and buildable in OE they find their way into Angstrom, one way or another)


Like I said, google. Or, heaven forbid, visit the angstrom website and click in 'package browser' and enter some search terms like ehm.. 'openmoko'? Of course you won't do that, since the primary source for information for the entire internet is this forum. Burn me for suggesting such outlandish things like google or visiting the project website.
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A5DF   Openmoko   Jun 30 2007, 05:16 PM
adf   QUOTE(A5DF @ Jul 1 2007, 01:16 AM)Am I the on...   Jun 30 2007, 05:36 PM
koen   perhaps you all should search better before postin...   Jul 1 2007, 12:30 AM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 1 2007, 08:30 AM)perhaps you...   Jul 1 2007, 12:54 AM
dhns   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 1 2007, 09:54 AM)otoh  h...   Jul 1 2007, 03:23 AM
A5DF   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 1 2007, 03:30 AM)perhaps you...   Jul 1 2007, 08:21 AM
koen   QUOTE(A5DF @ Jul 1 2007, 04:21 PM)QUOTE(koen ...   Jul 1 2007, 08:38 AM
cycle_55   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 1 2007, 08:38 AM)QUOTE(A5DF ...   Jul 1 2007, 09:29 AM
A5DF   koen, I think the huge screaming rant is directly...   Jul 1 2007, 10:19 AM
adf   HEADLINE ANGRY ANGSTROM DEV POSTS PISSY RANT RATHE...   Jul 1 2007, 11:51 AM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 1 2007, 07:51 PM)HEADLINE ANG...   Jul 1 2007, 12:16 PM
A5DF   Just found this digging around in koen's blog:...   Jul 1 2007, 12:27 PM
adf   Yes, I was aware that people were (or intrnding) b...   Jul 1 2007, 01:45 PM
speculatrix   @Koen, if you don't like forums, then may I po...   Jul 1 2007, 01:04 PM
speculatrix   BTW, there's no search tool for the angstrom m...   Jul 1 2007, 01:48 PM
A5DF   @adf You got it. I was talking about an angstrom ...   Jul 1 2007, 02:27 PM
ofels   QUOTE(A5DF @ Jul 2 2007, 12:27 AM)@adf I was...   Jul 1 2007, 11:25 PM
adf   even so, the original intent-- that an openmokoize...   Jul 1 2007, 11:50 PM
ofels   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 2 2007, 09:50 AM)even so, the...   Jul 2 2007, 12:48 AM
koen   QUOTE(ofels @ Jul 2 2007, 08:48 AM)QUOTE(adf ...   Jul 2 2007, 04:41 AM
speculatrix   QUOTE(koen @ Jul 2 2007, 01:41 PM)And this fo...   Jul 2 2007, 05:37 AM
koen   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jul 2 2007, 01:37 PM)QUOT...   Jul 2 2007, 07:06 AM
ofels   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Jul 2 2007, 03:37 PM)it...   Jul 2 2007, 08:21 AM
A5DF   Mkay people, this is now way off topic. This is no...   Jul 2 2007, 09:15 AM
koen   QUOTE(A5DF @ Jul 2 2007, 05:15 PM)This is not...   Jul 2 2007, 12:15 PM
adf   you'll probably see more of us there when the ...   Jul 2 2007, 01:50 PM
A5DF   http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40...   Jul 5 2007, 10:35 AM
matthis   I just installed openmoko on latest angstrom on my...   Mar 13 2008, 04:20 AM


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