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Cyberdoc1971
post Aug 14 2007, 07:36 PM
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I know some of this has been touched on in pother previous forums, but has the age of the Linux-powered pda (Zaurus/Archos PMA/Etc.) come to an end? This was in discussion especially when Sharp made the decision to discontinue the Zaurus line. I have also seen the decline in other PDA lines (Palm and Windows Mobile), with very little news of any new PDAs coming out(personally, the Follio is a sub-notebook, not a PDA).

I have seen other users Z's and other units starting to have problems, and lack of parts does not help. Like you I got into the mobile Linux when it started up, I was lucky recently to get my hands on an Archos PMA430, bit I have concerns that the PDA is about dead to make way for the converged device, which I am not too fond of. So people, what are your thoughts on this?
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T3_slider
post Aug 21 2007, 04:25 PM
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Haha, your point about the phone+PDA converged device just reminded me why standalone PDAs are now dieing. The dumb masses don't realize that the more devices converge the crappier each function gets. My mom insists on having a DVD/VCR converged device (granted it's hard to find a quality VCR that doesn't contain a DVD player). But when you have a huge high-definition TV, you get way better quality if you buy a good standalone DVD player with more outputs than just component and S-video. (By the way, I'm not calling my mom stupid -- just technologically illiterate)

Perhaps when there is a UMPC/PDA/phone/television/toaster that fits in your pocket (and doesn't burn the toast) more people will buy UMPCs, but not until then. (Another problem, again relating to my technologically illiterate mother -- I'm always told that the screen on my Z is too small. It would be the same problem with UMPCs until they master that roll-out screen)

[edit]And yes, 20 years was just a made-up date. I tried to make it later in the future than I would think possible and for good reason. They said by 2000 we would live like the Jetsons. In the movie 2010: The year we make contact (or whatever it's called) their spaceships are like those in Star Trek (No, I'm not a Trekkie. I hate that show -- and I definitely don't speak Klingon). Although I can't deny that in 2010 we will have that kind of space technology because it is only 2007, I am, needless to say, VERY doubtful that we will have that technology in 3 years. Yes, basically I'm trying to cover my butt.[/edit]
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Cyberdoc1971   Is The Z, Archos Pma, Etc Dead?   Aug 14 2007, 07:36 PM
Da_Blitz   i think due to the nature of the devices it wont d...   Aug 15 2007, 12:39 AM
nilch   While I love the Zaurus as a PDA, but its slow-dyi...   Aug 15 2007, 07:31 AM
Cyberdoc1971   I agree that Only if the Zaurus and others (Archos...   Aug 15 2007, 03:26 PM
iwantprogress   my tastes seem to be very uncommon in the marketpl...   Aug 15 2007, 03:26 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(iwantprogress @ Aug 16 2007, 09:26 AM)m...   Aug 15 2007, 05:33 PM
desertrat   QUOTE(Meanie @ Aug 16 2007, 01:33 AM)marketee...   Aug 16 2007, 07:03 AM
Cyberdoc1971   QUOTE(desertrat @ Aug 16 2007, 10:03 AM)QUOTE...   Aug 16 2007, 08:10 AM
iwantprogress   i think i'd be ok with a (properly thumbable) ...   Aug 16 2007, 02:27 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(iwantprogress @ Aug 16 2007, 08:27 PM)i...   Aug 16 2007, 02:52 AM
Dromede   QUOTE(Meanie @ Aug 16 2007, 11:52 AM)QUOTE(iw...   Aug 16 2007, 03:50 AM
ZDevil   I'd say choice and freedom.   Aug 16 2007, 03:59 AM
vputz   I will say that no device has excited me more than...   Aug 16 2007, 06:50 AM
T3_slider   I don't know much about the iPhone, but I...   Aug 16 2007, 01:06 PM
iwantprogress   meanie wrote: > linux but that is why i wrote...   Aug 16 2007, 01:24 PM
iwantprogress   btw not saying i disagree that linux is not a prio...   Aug 16 2007, 01:26 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(iwantprogress @ Aug 17 2007, 07:26 AM)b...   Aug 16 2007, 03:07 PM
Cyberdoc1971   QUOTE(Meanie @ Aug 16 2007, 06:07 PM)QUOTE(iw...   Aug 16 2007, 03:56 PM
speculatrix   the only mass market product I see which rivals th...   Aug 16 2007, 11:51 PM
Da_Blitz   thanks for the heads up on the uni, i have been th...   Aug 17 2007, 02:23 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(Da_Blitz @ Aug 17 2007, 10:23 AM)... an...   Aug 17 2007, 11:06 AM
nilch   This topic is really getting pretty conplex - natu...   Aug 17 2007, 10:02 AM
T3_slider   QUOTE(desertrat)It's sad and disgraceful how M...   Aug 17 2007, 12:39 PM
iwantprogress   nilch> They will not consume a uber PDA in thes...   Aug 17 2007, 01:01 PM
nilch   QUOTE(iwantprogress @ Aug 17 2007, 04:01 PM)n...   Aug 20 2007, 07:44 AM
amrein   QUOTEIs The Z, Archos Pma, Etc Dead? Here is how ...   Aug 17 2007, 03:33 PM
adf   well--actually, I really like my Z. it could be fa...   Aug 17 2007, 08:13 PM
desertrat   QUOTE(amrein @ Aug 17 2007, 11:33 PM)To still...   Aug 22 2007, 08:35 PM
Cyberdoc1971   Wow! Amrein, that is the best explanation that...   Aug 17 2007, 08:07 PM
Da_Blitz   ever since switching to Linux i have hated the who...   Aug 20 2007, 03:09 AM
T3_slider   Yes, but UMPCs aren't doing very well. I'v...   Aug 20 2007, 11:38 AM
nilch   QUOTE(T3_slider @ Aug 20 2007, 02:38 PM)Yes, ...   Aug 20 2007, 12:37 PM
desertrat   QUOTE(nilch @ Aug 20 2007, 08:37 PM)I am not ...   Aug 22 2007, 08:44 PM
nilch   QUOTE(desertrat @ Aug 22 2007, 11:44 PM)QUOTE...   Aug 23 2007, 05:50 AM
T3_slider   Haha, your point about the phone+PDA converged dev...   Aug 21 2007, 04:25 PM
adf   QUOTE(T3_slider @ Aug 21 2007, 04:25 PM)Haha,...   Aug 24 2007, 11:05 PM
Cyberdoc1971   It's true about the dumb masses wanting and cr...   Aug 23 2007, 01:41 PM
nilch   QUOTE(Cyberdoc1971 @ Aug 23 2007, 04:41 PM)It...   Aug 23 2007, 06:38 PM
adf   QUOTE(nilch @ Aug 23 2007, 06:38 PM)QUOTE(Cyb...   Aug 23 2007, 08:43 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(nilch @ Aug 24 2007, 12:38 PM)QUOTE(Cyb...   Aug 23 2007, 11:08 PM
Cyberdoc1971   Lol, sorry guys, I did not mean to use "geek...   Aug 24 2007, 07:25 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(Cyberdoc1971 @ Aug 24 2007, 03:25 PM)As...   Aug 25 2007, 06:47 PM
Cyberdoc1971   QUOTE(desertrat @ Aug 25 2007, 09:47 PM)QUOTE...   Aug 25 2007, 10:38 PM
T3_slider   You consider these crappy Windows UMPCs the greate...   Aug 24 2007, 02:29 PM
Cyberdoc1971   QUOTE(T3_slider @ Aug 24 2007, 05:29 PM)You c...   Aug 24 2007, 08:37 PM
Cyberdoc1971   Good Idea as I recall, it is still a concept being...   Aug 25 2007, 09:20 AM
T3_slider   Except I absolutely despise glasses. And I need th...   Aug 25 2007, 12:35 PM
desertrat   QUOTE(T3_slider @ Aug 25 2007, 08:35 PM)It...   Aug 25 2007, 06:54 PM
Da_Blitz   QUOTEThat's old hat - plus users complain that...   Aug 26 2007, 06:18 AM


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