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InSearchOf
post Sep 6 2007, 04:22 AM
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I know it is hard as a dev to say does the community want this... Do they want that.... Or do they want neither.

This is why I ask this question. I'm not asking for what packages everyone would like (will be brought up later)
But would you want to have a base rom with very little packages (xfree,wm, utils, term app, text editor)

Or beef it up with the above and im client, web browser, mail app, word processor, etc.

I would like to know if the we (community) are a do-it-ourselves kind of group or would rather have it there and ready out of the box even if there may be unused apps

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post Sep 6 2007, 12:46 PM
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Can Antix/Meanie provide any stats regarding pdaxrom - would that help given it comes in base(lightand airy)/full-metal-jacket varieties?

Must admit I am a fully loaded person - (emacs user so what would you expect...).

Aside does pdaxrom have full C3000 support yet?
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post Sep 6 2007, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(tanjian2 @ Sep 6 2007, 04:46 PM)
Can Antix/Meanie provide any stats regarding pdaxrom - would that help given it comes in base(lightand airy)/full-metal-jacket varieties?

Must admit I am a fully loaded person - (emacs user so what would you expect...).

Aside does pdaxrom have full C3000 support yet?
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Don't hold me to it, but pdaXrom 2 will have c3000 support. smile.gif

Its hard to debug a device I don't have biggrin.gif

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post Sep 6 2007, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 6 2007, 05:11 PM)
QUOTE(tanjian2 @ Sep 6 2007, 04:46 PM)
Can Antix/Meanie provide any stats regarding pdaxrom - would that help given it comes in base(lightand airy)/full-metal-jacket varieties?

Must admit I am a fully loaded person - (emacs user so what would you expect...).

Aside does pdaxrom have full C3000 support yet?
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Don't hold me to it, but pdaXrom 2 will have c3000 support. smile.gif

Its hard to debug a device I don't have biggrin.gif

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Does that mean we'll be getting past 1.1.0 sometime soon? I think it's long overdue...
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post Sep 6 2007, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 6 2007, 07:51 PM)
Does that mean we'll be getting past 1.1.0 sometime soon? I think it's long overdue...
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Yes, 2 means a new begining pdaXrom 2.0.0

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post Sep 10 2007, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 7 2007, 11:16 AM)
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 6 2007, 07:51 PM)
Does that mean we'll be getting past 1.1.0 sometime soon? I think it's long overdue...
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Yes, 2 means a new begining pdaXrom 2.0.0

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finally! smile.gif

as for the debate on lite vs full, in my experience and observations, the lite variety is only used by about 20-30% of the user base whilst the rest prefers the heavy full all you can have type with everything preinstalled and working out of the box. This is probably one of the reasons Windows used to appeal to many users, because the most essential apps were readily available in windows once it was installed. of course you can install more stuff later on, but the basic stuff that you want and need is already be there. of course you have to put some thoughts into what should be there already.

I have found that what windows is supplying out of the box is what an average user needs more or less with just a bit of fiddling.

So here is a list of things to consider:

notepad - maybe leafpad or xpad
calculator - galculator or the calculator that comes with xfe
file manager - xfe or pcmanfm
terminal - urxvt or xterm
browser - dillo or firefox (this one is going to be a tough choice since there are so many available but none that can really fulfill all the needs)
im - pidgin
video player - mplayer with some nice GUI
audio player - xmms
image viewer - gqview

of course people can always uninstall the ones they don't like and install something else if they prefer, but the goal is to have something that most people will find useful.

a success will be when people can install a distro and say that it is usable out of the box and just needs a few extra apps for their specific needs rather than, ok distro installed, frantic hunt for essential apps in order to have a working system during which the system is unusable because it is too bare minimum and nothing really works.
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InSearchOf   Release Included Packages   Sep 6 2007, 04:22 AM
Dromede   hmmm... how about both? :-D seriously, i think tha...   Sep 6 2007, 10:21 AM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(Dromede @ Sep 6 2007, 02:21 PM)hmmm... ...   Sep 6 2007, 11:51 AM
Capn_Fish   I saey leave it pretty minimal, but with enough st...   Sep 6 2007, 10:22 AM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 6 2007, 02:22 PM)On ano...   Sep 6 2007, 11:56 AM
louigi600   I think pretty much everyone would expect the basi...   Sep 6 2007, 10:42 AM
HoloVector   When I had the option to go Lite or Full with Cack...   Sep 6 2007, 12:26 PM
tanjian2   Can Antix/Meanie provide any stats regarding pdaxr...   Sep 6 2007, 12:46 PM
HoloVector   QUOTE(tanjian2 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:46 PM)Can Ant...   Sep 6 2007, 01:45 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(tanjian2 @ Sep 6 2007, 04:46 PM)Can Ant...   Sep 6 2007, 02:11 PM
Capn_Fish   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 6 2007, 05:11 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 6 2007, 03:51 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 6 2007, 07:51 PM)Does t...   Sep 6 2007, 05:16 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 7 2007, 11:16 AM)QUOTE...   Sep 10 2007, 06:40 PM
adf   All true. But the browser thing is kinda haunting...   Sep 10 2007, 07:05 PM
HoloVector   Now, I can't wait to see your roadmap!   Sep 6 2007, 07:08 PM
desertrat   I would tend to prefer a lite install (but that de...   Sep 10 2007, 08:45 PM
adf   QUOTE(desertrat @ Sep 10 2007, 08:45 PM)I wou...   Sep 10 2007, 09:04 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(desertrat @ Sep 11 2007, 12:45 AM)I wou...   Sep 11 2007, 05:02 AM
Meanie   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 11 2007, 11:02 PM)QUOT...   Sep 11 2007, 04:56 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 11 2007, 08:56 PM)QUOTE(In...   Sep 11 2007, 06:57 PM
Meanie   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 12 2007, 12:57 PM)QUOT...   Sep 11 2007, 08:03 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(Meanie @ Sep 12 2007, 12:03 AM)It is tr...   Sep 12 2007, 04:13 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(InSearchOf @ Sep 12 2007, 12:13 PM)I...   Sep 14 2007, 10:09 PM
koan   Here is my 10 yen on lite vs full: I would prefer...   Sep 30 2007, 04:00 AM
adf   any chance it will be able to restore from or back...   Sep 14 2007, 11:25 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(adf @ Sep 15 2007, 03:25 AM)any chance ...   Sep 15 2007, 06:32 AM
ernestus   Too much work for InSearchOf, isn't it? I had ...   Sep 11 2007, 05:56 AM
Capn_Fish   I'm all for trying a Gecko-based browser with ...   Sep 11 2007, 05:28 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Sep 11 2007, 09:28 PM)I...   Sep 11 2007, 06:08 PM
HoloVector   I think the new pdaXrom version should leverage th...   Sep 11 2007, 07:36 PM
scoutme   best solution IMHO would be a lite but complete pa...   Sep 14 2007, 11:27 AM


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