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post Sep 26 2007, 08:12 AM
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Hey Gents,

I'm not that great with Wiki stuff. I can barely figure out how to message someone on there (it's the talk page, right?). Anyway, could you guys try and find out what anti-spam measures are available to us and I'll implement them? A captcha would be convenient if it's there. I'm looking into merging the accounts tables, but that might take a little bit.

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post Sep 27 2007, 03:31 PM
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Which PDF documentation?
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(Meyer @ Sep 28 2007, 12:31 AM) *
Which PDF documentation?

cool.gif Hi Meyer,

dz posted some links when he was talking about the new software. There are pdf manuals for download. I'll try putting them here.

Sorry these are for the forum software! rolleyes.gif

http://www.invisionpower.com/community/board/index.html
http://www.invisionpower.com/community/downloads/index.html
http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showtopic=226814

I don't know how much help they are, I haven't had time to sit down and read them yet. sad.gif

I think after a quick browse I'll think about printing out the bits and go off to town and the library and study them the old-fashioned way. I've given the computer screens far too much eyeball to be sensible this last ten days or so. rolleyes.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 01:09 AM
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cool.gif Hi dz and Meyer,

just looked at the documentation on the mediawiki site. In the FAQ I found the following which I think is relevant to disallowing anonymous editing. This is one that dz would have to do.

Here is the section I found immediately relevant: Help - User Rights

I've cut and pasted an example:

Anonymous users cannot edit

This example will disable editing of all pages, then re-enable for registered users only.

$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = true;


HTH.
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post Sep 29 2007, 07:40 AM
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cool.gif Hi Roy, Dave,

I know that changes to the Wiki setup are taking place this weekend. I hope that blocking anonymous/unlogged in edits is high on the agenda. The last few bits of banning and reverting that I have done have been to anonymous/unlogged users putting little snippets of gibberish in. This looks like the Wiki is beginning to be a target again. sad.gif Not very much at the moment,let's knock it on the head now. biggrin.gif

With the captcha helping out against robot registration, we should be pretty much immune from vandalism and spam if anonymous editing is blocked. tongue.gif

We can always reinstate anonymous editing later on, when all the defensive bots, filters etc come into play. smile.gif Or not, if nobody much complains about it! laugh.gif

Me I'm going to spend some time looking at how Redirect works on pages and how to cope with pages that involve Redirects. I think I've only got a very small number of spambot created pages to finally remove all trace of. I even found time to try and write some pages. rolleyes.gif

See you later.

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post Sep 30 2007, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(tux @ Sep 29 2007, 04:40 PM) *
cool.gif Hi Roy, Dave,

I know that changes to the Wiki setup are taking place this weekend. I hope that blocking anonymous/unlogged in edits is high on the agenda. The last few bits of banning and reverting that I have done have been to anonymous/unlogged users putting little snippets of gibberish in. This looks like the Wiki is beginning to be a target again. sad.gif Not very much at the moment,let's knock it on the head now. biggrin.gif

sad.gif The anonymous gibberbots are increasing in number. I really hope the captcha and the anonymous editing changes are going well. smile.gif

It is 23:11 my time and I went to bed about 05:30 this morning. No it wasn't wiki business, this TitchyLinux is getting quite engrossing! biggrin.gif

So 'Goodnight Each!'

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post Sep 30 2007, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(tux @ Sep 30 2007, 02:14 PM) *
sad.gif The anonymous gibberbots are increasing in number. I really hope the captcha and the anonymous editing changes are going well. smile.gif


It's disappointing what some people think of as fun.

1-word gibberish edits are at least an improvement over the link spam, but I agree we need to get rid of them, too.

If disallowing anonymous edits is the only way to do it, I don't think that will be much of a loss in practical terms. However, in principle I think it's better to keep the wiki as open and free as we can.

The ConfirmEdit captcha extension is configurable to trigger a captcha on edits by anonymous users while leaving registered users alone. I'd like to see if that's enough to block the gibberish.

Of course, if it's not bots but people sitting at their PCs typing "klsdfoisdf" into wiki pages, the captcha won't do much good. In that case blocking all anonymous edits is probably the only thing we can do.

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post Sep 30 2007, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Meyer @ Sep 30 2007, 06:42 PM) *
QUOTE(tux @ Sep 30 2007, 02:14 PM) *
sad.gif The anonymous gibberbots are increasing in number. I really hope the captcha and the anonymous editing changes are going well. smile.gif


It's disappointing what some people think of as fun.

1-word gibberish edits are at least an improvement over the link spam, but I agree we need to get rid of them, too.

If disallowing anonymous edits is the only way to do it, I don't think that will be much of a loss in practical terms. However, in principle I think it's better to keep the wiki as open and free as we can.

The ConfirmEdit captcha extension is configurable to trigger a captcha on edits by anonymous users while leaving registered users alone. I'd like to see if that's enough to block the gibberish.

Of course, if it's not bots but people sitting at their PCs typing "klsdfoisdf" into wiki pages, the captcha won't do much good. In that case blocking all anonymous edits is probably the only thing we can do.

How really difficult is it to register? Is there a mail address available so someone with a brilliant insight who can't be bothered to register to post it can mail it to the admin? What do you think would be lost by requiring a simple free registration, and possible posting an easy way for a human to mail the admin? I'm obviously a fan of open stuff, but making things easy on assholes seems like a bad idea...
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dz   Spam   Sep 26 2007, 08:12 AM
tux   QUOTE(dz @ Sep 26 2007, 05:12 PM) Hey Gen...   Sep 26 2007, 09:20 AM
dz   Oh ok cool. I tried to unblock you, but I have no...   Sep 26 2007, 09:44 AM
tux   QUOTE(dz @ Sep 26 2007, 06:44 PM) Oh ok c...   Sep 26 2007, 11:22 AM
dz   QUOTE(tux @ Sep 26 2007, 02:22 PM) 1. I h...   Sep 26 2007, 11:26 AM
tux   QUOTE(dz @ Sep 26 2007, 08:26 PM) QUOTE(t...   Sep 26 2007, 11:37 AM
dz   QUOTE(tux @ Sep 26 2007, 02:37 PM) QUOTE(...   Sep 26 2007, 11:48 AM
tux   QUOTE(dz @ Sep 26 2007, 08:48 PM) QUOTE(t...   Sep 26 2007, 01:01 PM
tux   Hi DZ, looking at the wiki for the software I fou...   Sep 26 2007, 03:22 PM
Meyer   I guess the wiki upgrade has confused the spambots...   Sep 26 2007, 11:34 PM
tux   QUOTE(Meyer @ Sep 27 2007, 08:34 AM) I gu...   Sep 27 2007, 02:25 PM
Meyer   Which PDF documentation?   Sep 27 2007, 03:31 PM
tux   QUOTE(Meyer @ Sep 28 2007, 12:31 AM) Whic...   Sep 28 2007, 12:27 AM
tux   Hi dz and Meyer, just looked at the documentation...   Sep 28 2007, 01:09 AM
tux   Hi Roy, Dave, I know that changes to the Wiki set...   Sep 29 2007, 07:40 AM
tux   QUOTE(tux @ Sep 29 2007, 04:40 PM) Hi Ro...   Sep 30 2007, 02:14 PM
Meyer   QUOTE(tux @ Sep 30 2007, 02:14 PM) The a...   Sep 30 2007, 06:42 PM
adf   QUOTE(Meyer @ Sep 30 2007, 06:42 PM) QUOT...   Sep 30 2007, 07:02 PM
Meyer   QUOTE(adf @ Sep 30 2007, 07:02 PM) How re...   Sep 30 2007, 08:08 PM
tux   Welcome back David!! Over the last mont...   Mar 11 2011, 11:54 AM
Antikx   thanks for all your hard work, tux!   Sep 30 2007, 02:45 PM


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