Nokia N810, Built in qwerty thumbboard slide out Options

[Snappy]

http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=products,n810,demo

Any takers?

[Capn_Fish]

How about the keyboard? I guess I'd describe the Cxx00's keyboards as slightly "mushy" (but still VERY nice). How's the N810's compared to that?

Z, it just feels right now more 'tweakable' or 'hackable'...but maybe my take on this will change if I use N810 more...

You mean the Z feels more tweakable/hackable? That's my current impression, but I'm thinking that with Angstrom on the N810, it ought to feel the same software-wise as my Z.

[stupkid]

You mean the Z feels more tweakable/hackable? That's my current impression, but I'm thinking that with Angstrom on the N810, it ought to feel the same software-wise as my Z.

I was reading that there is unused 3D acceleration hardware on the N8*, which seems kinda silly that Nokia never has used it if it is there. And the performance of the Quake port on that device is not very impressive. My guess is they don't have any super geeks like sashz over there.

[BarryW]

You mean the Z feels more tweakable/hackable? That's my current impression, but I'm thinking that with Angstrom on the N810, it ought to feel the same software-wise as my Z.

I was reading that there is unused 3D acceleration hardware on the N8*, which seems kinda silly that Nokia never has used it if it is there. And the performance of the Quake port on that device is not very impressive. My guess is they don't have any super geeks like sashz over there.

I think I read on the forums that they don't have enough video memory to implement the 3d acceleration. Though I might be misremembering. The biggest problem I had with the device, I had the 800, was the "vendor support", or lack of it. Right after the last big os update the whole section in charge of the nits went on holiday! It was like they posted the files on the way out the door. Never mind the fact that their update servers weren't working. Everybody either had to flash back to the previous os, or wait three freaking weeks for them to fix their update servers. The devices had a funny habit of trashing sd cards. The new gui isn't as tweakable as the old one. They touted the webcam as a way to do on the go video conferencing, then pulled the application a few months after release. Which basically made the camera a useless part. It's really not a good camera, my old cell phone had a better camera. I really tried to like the device, it just wasn't quite there. Maybe the 810 would be different. I don't know, I've never seen one in real life. Though I never saw the 800 in real life before I bought it either.

[speculatrix]

I think I read on the forums that they don't have enough video memory to implement the 3d acceleration.

from what I understand, the N800 has a design flaw which means there's a bandwidth bottleneck between CPU and video, which prevents playback of video at higher screen rates. the 770 didn't have this flaw, and its CPU is the limiting factor.

Unfortunately in creating the n810 from the 800, they didn't redesign the hardware (I presume there's a gate array or ASIC) to fix this problem; if wimax version does come out and if it improves video bandwidth and if it would work in the UK then I would strongly consider upgrading to it, as it is my twin-SD-slot N800 is good enough for me!

The accelerated video is down to Nokia not actually getting drivers from TI for the chipset, it's been a bone of contention and a lot of people have taken a pot-shot at Nokia for what seems to be a really stupid situation!