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Blue Lightning
post Jan 12 2008, 10:52 PM
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Hi all,

I would like to announce that some testing images of the Angstrom Linux distribution containing the Opie user environment version 1.2.3 are now available. For most devices, this is the first time Opie 1.2.3 has been available in a distribution in any form, and once testing and debugging has finished we hope that this will give access to Opie to more users.

If you have one of the following listed devices, we would love to hear feedback on how well it works for you:
  • Zaurus SL-5500
  • Zaurus SL-5600
  • Zaurus SL-C1000
  • Zaurus SL-C3000
  • Zaurus SL-C7x0
  • Zaurus SL-6000
  • iPAQ h2200 series
  • iPAQ h3900 series
  • iPAQ h4000 series
  • iPAQ h5000 series
  • iPAQ hx4700
  • Motorola A780
  • HTC Universal
  • Siemens Simpad (see note [1])
The central point for information is the following wiki page:

  http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromOpieTesting

From there you can find information on how to download and run an image on your device as well as some known issues.

Opie is now on the path to becoming a supported choice of environment within Angstrom, and we expect the testing period to last for at least a month, during which time we will be collecting information and fixing serious bugs where they are found.

We welcome all feedback, so if you can, please try one of the images and send your reports to angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org.

Thanks,
Paul

[1] There is an image available for the Siemens Simpad, but there is a bug preventing Opie from starting on this device - some help debugging this problem would be welcome (see http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3681 for details).
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Wildherb
post Sep 16 2008, 03:38 PM
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Blue Lightning

R18 build?- for information, my spitz is a 3100. The image I linked definitely has a duff key mapping on the arrow keys.

OZ packages? as I suspected. Would it be rude of me to submit a wish-list?
driftnet
dsniff
wellenreiter
znessus (open source but never seen for OZ or angstrom)
qpenmapfe (compiled for spitz display)
XQt
ettercap
ethereal/Wireshark/zethereal
thcrut
Ubahn
freenote

<not for me, but for my daughter>
Supertux!
</not for me, but for my daughter>

Yes, I'm a CISSP so I need all the security tools, and that is why PERL is so important to me so I can run things like Nikto and SQLiX.

I also like to run pocketworkstation. Meanie produced some great X configurations on Sharp/Cacko. I dont necessarily need such a slick environment - my ideal configuration is a QT based PDA with access to the X apps. I can get that with Cacko and meanie's X, but I'm sure it can be done better and faster in Angstrom.
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Blue Lightning
post Sep 17 2008, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 17 2008, 12:38 PM) *
R18 build?- for information, my spitz is a 3100. The image I linked definitely has a duff key mapping on the arrow keys.

Ah, so your "spitz" is actually a borzoi tongue.gif Still, more or less the same machine.

You're right, I somehow missed that this problem was not fixed. The issue has a workaround in the mean time, see this message I posted today:
http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angst...ber/002199.html

I looked through your list of packages. I'm certainly in a position to get all of the Opie/QPE packages you mentioned in the feeds (and plan to do so if at all possible), as for anything else, if it needs X it'll be predicated on getting Xqt working. It builds OK, but I didn't have much luck using it; then again I have never used it before.
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post Sep 17 2008, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Sep 17 2008, 10:02 PM) *
QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 17 2008, 12:38 PM) *
R18 build?- for information, my spitz is a 3100. The image I linked definitely has a duff key mapping on the arrow keys.

Ah, so your "spitz" is actually a borzoi tongue.gif Still, more or less the same machine.

You're right, I somehow missed that this problem was not fixed. The issue has a workaround in the mean time, see this message I posted today:
http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angst...ber/002199.html

I looked through your list of packages. I'm certainly in a position to get all of the Opie/QPE packages you mentioned in the feeds (and plan to do so if at all possible), as for anything else, if it needs X it'll be predicated on getting Xqt working. It builds OK, but I didn't have much luck using it; then again I have never used it before.


Many thanks BlueLightning, the arrow key fix works just fine on my 3100. 8-)

I started to load up PERL modules and I got Nikto running - this is very encouraging!
... but then I hit a few problems:

1) I cant load libwww-perl. It is there in the feed browser so I checked my /etc/ipkg.conf file to make sure I had 'base' listed but I found nothing at all listed ! - yet it seems to update OK? Has ipkg.conf been moved?

2) Anyway, I then tried to install the ipk by specifying the URL. It downloaded but would not install because of lack of liburl-perl. Can we have that in the feed please?

3) I got CPAN working and attempted to compile a module. CPAN failed because gzip had an incorrect parameter. I remember this fault on OZ which I fixed by installing gzip from the feed. Can we have gzip in the Angstrom feed please and hopefully this will resolve my problem.


Finally, can I add to my wish list please :
Web Browser (Konqueror)
qtrdesktop
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post Sep 21 2008, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 18 2008, 08:08 PM) *
1) I cant load libwww-perl. It is there in the feed browser so I checked my /etc/ipkg.conf file to make sure I had 'base' listed but I found nothing at all listed ! - yet it seems to update OK? Has ipkg.conf been moved?

libwww-perl is in the 2008.6 feed, not 2007.12. 2008.x hasn't been released yet. It's confusing that it even shows up in the feed browser and I've requested that it be fixed. FYI though the ipkg setup in Angstrom has the feed files in /etc/ipkg/ in separate files rather than all in /etc/ipkg.conf.

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2) Anyway, I then tried to install the ipk by specifying the URL. It downloaded but would not install because of lack of liburl-perl. Can we have that in the feed please?

I think you mean liburi-perl - that is in the same feed (according to the feed browser) so you can install this manually. Installing packages from other versions like this won't be officially supported though. If you want to request that liburi-perl and libwww-perl be officially backported to 2007.12 then I would suggest emailing the Angstrom users mailing list (angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org).

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3) I got CPAN working and attempted to compile a module. CPAN failed because gzip had an incorrect parameter. I remember this fault on OZ which I fixed by installing gzip from the feed. Can we have gzip in the Angstrom feed please and hopefully this will resolve my problem.

I have made a request for gzip. However, if you want to request further non-Opie packages can I ask that you do it by emailing the list above? Thanks.

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Web Browser (Konqueror)
qtrdesktop

qtrdesktop isn't in OE at the moment, would opie-rdesktop work? That should be on its way to the feed once I can confirm it is working. Konqueror-embedded is working and in the queue. Regarding some of your other requests, some updates:
  • qpenmapfe - original website is gone so it isn't building at the moment. I have contacted the author of qpe-nmap which is more functional than qpenmapfe, and I have managed to modify it to work nicely on large screen devices. Once we work out where to host it I can put it into OE.
  • XQt - being worked on
  • ubahnnav - runs but can't find data files due to some path-related issue, probably not too hard to fix but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet.
  • wellenreiter - working, in queue for feed
  • freenote - working, in queue for feed
  • zethereal - it's in the nonworking section of the OE tree which means it's probably quite broken, although I haven't been able to check. In any case wouldn't it be quite out of date by now?
  • others - not sure, I'm afraid you'll need to request them via the mailing list as mentioned above
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post Sep 22 2008, 04:30 AM
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QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Sep 21 2008, 08:55 PM) *
QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 18 2008, 08:08 PM) *
1) I cant load libwww-perl. It is there in the feed browser so I checked my /etc/ipkg.conf file to make sure I had 'base' listed but I found nothing at all listed ! - yet it seems to update OK? Has ipkg.conf been moved?

libwww-perl is in the 2008.6 feed, not 2007.12. 2008.x hasn't been released yet. It's confusing that it even shows up in the feed browser and I've requested that it be fixed. FYI though the ipkg setup in Angstrom has the feed files in /etc/ipkg/ in separate files rather than all in /etc/ipkg.conf.

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2) Anyway, I then tried to install the ipk by specifying the URL. It downloaded but would not install because of lack of liburl-perl. Can we have that in the feed please?

I think you mean liburi-perl - that is in the same feed (according to the feed browser) so you can install this manually. Installing packages from other versions like this won't be officially supported though. If you want to request that liburi-perl and libwww-perl be officially backported to 2007.12 then I would suggest emailing the Angstrom users mailing list (angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org).

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3) I got CPAN working and attempted to compile a module. CPAN failed because gzip had an incorrect parameter. I remember this fault on OZ which I fixed by installing gzip from the feed. Can we have gzip in the Angstrom feed please and hopefully this will resolve my problem.

I have made a request for gzip. However, if you want to request further non-Opie packages can I ask that you do it by emailing the list above? Thanks.

QUOTE
Web Browser (Konqueror)
qtrdesktop

qtrdesktop isn't in OE at the moment, would opie-rdesktop work? That should be on its way to the feed once I can confirm it is working. Konqueror-embedded is working and in the queue. Regarding some of your other requests, some updates:
  • qpenmapfe - original website is gone so it isn't building at the moment. I have contacted the author of qpe-nmap which is more functional than qpenmapfe, and I have managed to modify it to work nicely on large screen devices. Once we work out where to host it I can put it into OE.
  • XQt - being worked on
  • ubahnnav - runs but can't find data files due to some path-related issue, probably not too hard to fix but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet.
  • wellenreiter - working, in queue for feed
  • freenote - working, in queue for feed
  • zethereal - it's in the nonworking section of the OE tree which means it's probably quite broken, although I haven't been able to check. In any case wouldn't it be quite out of date by now?
  • others - not sure, I'm afraid you'll need to request them via the mailing list as mentioned above


Thank you BL for a most comprehensive reply. Apologies if I've mis-read liburi - small font, tired eyes!

It is good to see the feed making progress. The success of any distro has to be related to the functionallity that it delivers - i.e. the apps that are available. With relatively little new QT stuff being written it seems a shame not to port the old ones.

I did not ask for zethereal, I was asking for znesssus http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=480 Together with tbe nessusd server running under pocketworkstation it takes the Z in to a whole new world as a pen test tool!

The gzip issue was curious. Thank you for raising it I'm also running into problems now with a python application I use which requires grep to support the -m flag. I do find these little things frustrating. With my EEEPC (which is debian based) all the runtimes that I need (Perl, Python, Java) seem to work perfectly straight out of the box.
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Blue Lightning   Angstrom Opie 1.2.3 Testing   Jan 12 2008, 10:52 PM
agosine   I am really happy to see Opie available as I found...   Mar 7 2008, 07:19 AM
Blue Lightning   Development is a little slow at the moment seeing ...   Mar 8 2008, 12:50 PM
speculatrix   QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Mar 8 2008, 09:50 ...   Mar 31 2008, 01:11 PM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Apr 1 2008, 10:11 AM)...   Apr 3 2008, 05:11 AM
BarryW   Looks good so far! The only thing I've no...   Mar 7 2008, 06:50 PM
zogs   don't work wifi with wep 64/128/hex/ascii ang...   Mar 28 2008, 01:28 AM
ofels   QUOTE(zogs @ Mar 28 2008, 11:28 AM) don...   Apr 4 2008, 04:28 AM
zogs   root@spitz:~$ iwconfig wlan0 key 0x1234567890...   Mar 29 2008, 09:07 AM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(zogs @ Mar 30 2008, 06:07 AM) root@...   Apr 3 2008, 05:16 AM
zogs   which version have kernel-2.6.23 or which angstrom...   Apr 7 2008, 01:33 AM
ofels   QUOTE(zogs @ Apr 7 2008, 11:33 AM) which ...   Apr 8 2008, 03:29 AM
agosine   I have not tried the most recent build, but everyt...   Apr 19 2008, 08:07 AM
agosine   I would like to see this project move forward as I...   May 26 2008, 11:40 AM
ofels   QUOTE(agosine @ May 26 2008, 09:40 PM) I ...   May 26 2008, 07:21 PM
Wildherb   When can we expect to see a bugfix release of Angs...   Sep 15 2008, 03:02 PM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 16 2008, 12:02 PM) W...   Sep 15 2008, 03:41 PM
Wildherb   QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Sep 16 2008, 12:41...   Sep 15 2008, 11:16 PM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 16 2008, 08:16 PM) B...   Sep 16 2008, 02:47 PM
Wildherb   QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Sep 16 2008, 12:41...   Sep 16 2008, 02:52 AM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 16 2008, 11:52 PM) I...   Sep 16 2008, 02:44 PM
Wildherb   Blue Lightning R18 build?- for information, my sp...   Sep 16 2008, 03:38 PM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 17 2008, 12:38 PM) R...   Sep 17 2008, 01:02 PM
Wildherb   QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Sep 17 2008, 10:02...   Sep 17 2008, 11:08 PM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 18 2008, 08:08 PM) 1...   Sep 21 2008, 11:55 AM
Wildherb   QUOTE(Blue Lightning @ Sep 21 2008, 08:55...   Sep 22 2008, 04:30 AM
Blue Lightning   QUOTE(Wildherb @ Sep 23 2008, 01:30 AM) I...   Oct 9 2008, 09:54 AM
Wildherb   Hi Blue Lightning and other devs, Firstly, I...   Dec 15 2008, 03:18 PM


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