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Capn_Fish
post Jul 8 2008, 06:31 PM
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I'm making the mostly official and potentially mostly final list of apps to include in the pdaXrom 2.0 release image. Since we're trying to listen to the community more for this release, I'm asking for feedback, changes, etc. Here's the list I came up with, feel free to post comments, ideas, additions, changes, things to cut, etc. below. I'll keep this post updated with the latest list and when it was last changed.

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Internet/Communication:
-Epiphany-webkit (FF is too slow and may not build, Webkit seems perfectly fast/stable/functional to me, up for debate)
-Sylpheed (in the interest of speed, was Claws-Mail)
-Pidgin (kept because it seems light enough for the Z, thouroughly tested, easy to use)

Filesystem/editors:
-Nano
-Leafpad
-PCManFM / ROX (Up for debate)
{-GPartED*,**} (unnecessary, heavy)

System:
-Wi-Fi Radar**
-Package Manager (placeholder, potential to change package management system)

WM/GUI:
{-Fluxbox***}
-LXDE (Current line of thinking by me/InSearchOf)

Media:
-Quasar
-MPlayer
-GPicView
-AlsamixerGUI**
{-scrot*}
-GSnapShot (more features than scrot, GUI)
-Audio Codecs:
--Ogg/vorbis
--FLAC
--MP3
--WAV
--?
-EPDFView**
{-MTPaint*} (unnecessary)
-Xournal (seems useful, looks like it works well on the Z's screen res, useful with touchscreens, up for debate)

Office:
-Abiword* (kept for complete out-of-the-box experience)
-Gnumeric* (kept for complete out-of-the-box experience)

Terminals:
-RXVT-unicode (MRXVT is slightly buggy, others use VTE)
{-MRXVT / Aterm}
-Xterm

Security:
-IPTables* (kept because it is powerful/useful, easily ignored, and takes up little space)
-Firestarter* (kept because it is useful, easy to use, easily ignored, and takes up little space)

Other:
-WBar*
-CUPS*
-SSH
-SSHD (not enabled by default)*
-wget
-galculator

Games/Fun:
-XSolitaire*,**,****




*Dumpable if space becomes a concern
**For lack of a better app
{***My personal vote, TBD}
****Requires additional work

{} Removed, shown for completeness


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post Jul 9 2008, 09:05 AM
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Filesystem/editors:
- Nano
- Leafpad
- Geany(or Beaver) <--- maybe not in the image
- ROX-Filer
I would rather have ROX-Filer, I find it faster, you can have single-click navigation and configure shortcut keys the way you like just by adding gtk-can-change-accels = 1 in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 . i reckon that cut/copy/paste/link is rather cumbersome on small screen since you need to have 2 windows opened and not maximized.
You can have single-click navigation in PCManFM too but you need to patch the source. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752706
I would add ROX-Archive which is very simple(no navigation inside archive, just plain extraction/creation)
As for GPartED, I find it too big and slow, it is not very often used, therefore i am in favor of fdisk and mkfs even if it's not user friendly.

WM/GUI:
- Fluxbox
That sounds good to me. I like split screen feature, it's useful when you want to drag and drop between 2 windows(ROX-Filer comes to mind). Actually i am using JWM for speed reasons and you can set it to maximize everytime selected apps.
I was thinking about Lxpanel combined with openbox. Lxpanel has lots of plugins(battery,volume,netstatus, cpumonitor, ...) and scans .desktop so the menu is updated when new apps are installed(I don't know if fluxbox does that but certainly not JWM) but I don't know about the ressources it would need on a Zaurus. I think there are GUIs now to configure Fluxbox.

Internet:
- Dillo(as an HTML viewer primarily) and Firefox3(or Midori or Skipstone)
I think WebKit is still not mature enough
- Ayttm? instead of Pidgin. See Ayttm? features
- Sylpheed instead of claws-mail. I don't use all the features of claws-mail and it's becoming quite big

Multimedia:
- Quasar
- MPlayer
- GPicView <---- great or maybe fotoxxx
- AlsamixerGUI**
- gsnapshot is very small, has GUI and you can select a region, entire screen or window
- EPDFView** <---- from SVN or maybe old xpdf 3.02, pdf are a pain to read on a Z,way too slow
- MTPaint* <--- not in the image

Terminals:
- Rxvt-unicode(very fast startup)
- Sakura if one needs tabs,GUI config, cut/copy/paste,...

Accessories:
- Galculator(or gpe-calculator which is faster to load)
- Xournal(or FreeNoteqt)
- Notecase (maybe not in the image)
- zip, unzip, bzip2, ...
- ROX-Archive(and maybe xarchive 0.2.8.6 for navigation)

System
- Package manager <----- Qpkg was OK to me

Security:
- IPTables* <--- not in the image
- Firestarter* <--- not in the image

Office:
- Abiword* <--- not in the image
- Gnumeric* <--- not in the image

No bluetooth packages in the image

And of course GUIs to configure wifi, power, ...
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Capn_Fish   Pdaxrom 2.0 Included Apps   Jul 8 2008, 06:31 PM
stupkid   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 8 2008, 09:31 PM) -...   Jul 8 2008, 07:00 PM
scheck.r   Filesystem/editors: - Nano - Leafpad - Geany(or Be...   Jul 9 2008, 09:05 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(scheck.r @ Jul 9 2008, 05:05 PM) Fi...   Jul 10 2008, 10:13 AM
scheck.r   QUOTEQUOTE(scheck.r @ Jul 9 2008, 05:05 P...   Jul 10 2008, 11:48 AM
Roman   QUOTE(scheck.r @ Jul 9 2008, 05:05 PM) Fi...   Dec 25 2008, 03:41 AM
Jon_J   How about a "lite" version, somewhat lik...   Jul 9 2008, 01:45 PM
mars   QUOTE(Jon_J @ Jul 9 2008, 09:45 PM) How a...   Jul 10 2008, 12:59 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(mars @ Jul 10 2008, 04:59 PM) QUOTE...   Jul 11 2008, 09:13 AM
espi   I just started with my Zaurus and the only apps I ...   Jul 9 2008, 03:20 PM
Capn_Fish   OK, InSearchOf (and I ) agree that having "fu...   Jul 9 2008, 04:51 PM
Capn_Fish   Maybe handwriting recognition would be nice (Cellw...   Jul 9 2008, 05:42 PM
Capn_Fish   As much as I like Geany, I think it's overkill...   Jul 10 2008, 10:55 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 10 2008, 06:55 PM) ...   Jul 11 2008, 09:04 AM
AmigaFalcon   QUOTE(desertrat @ Jul 11 2008, 06:04 PM) ...   Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM
the_oak   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 9 2008, 09:42 PM) M...   Jul 11 2008, 09:19 AM
Capn_Fish   I think it's just a frontend for parted, which...   Jul 11 2008, 03:57 PM
the_oak   On the desktop and laptop, I've used GPartEd (...   Jul 11 2008, 07:33 PM
Capn_Fish   Like I said, I haven't experienced issues, and...   Jul 11 2008, 07:44 PM
the_oak   By the way, I'm not saying that I think it sho...   Jul 13 2008, 05:00 AM
gsgmx   2 wishes from me: pwm/pi (password manager from k...   Jul 14 2008, 12:14 PM
Capn_Fish   I don't think Vim will make it, as we already ...   Jul 14 2008, 08:09 PM
the_oak   For System >> Package manager, I see there i...   Jul 15 2008, 03:45 AM
Capn_Fish   Oh, yeah... I don't have final word on what t...   Jul 15 2008, 07:42 AM
desertrat   What about aptitude for the package manager? Presu...   Jul 15 2008, 10:01 AM
Capn_Fish   I agree, but tghen there's the user-friendly f...   Jul 15 2008, 01:56 PM
Capn_Fish   The window manager and related stuff appears to be...   Jul 21 2008, 06:42 AM
arzgi   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 21 2008, 05:42 PM) ...   Jul 21 2008, 07:12 AM
the_oak   I used IceWM about 5 years ago on the desktop, and...   Jul 21 2008, 07:58 AM
InSearchOf   I'm going to build LXDE and post some screen s...   Jul 21 2008, 08:35 AM
Capn_Fish   Here's a screenshot from the website, FWIW. E...   Jul 21 2008, 10:30 AM
the_oak   LXDE looks very nice!   Jul 21 2008, 05:08 PM
Capn_Fish   Well. InSearchOf isn't working on it anymore, ...   Dec 25 2008, 08:12 PM
ppyo   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Dec 25 2008, 11:12 PM) ...   Dec 26 2008, 11:58 AM


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