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Capn_Fish
post Jul 8 2008, 06:31 PM
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I'm making the mostly official and potentially mostly final list of apps to include in the pdaXrom 2.0 release image. Since we're trying to listen to the community more for this release, I'm asking for feedback, changes, etc. Here's the list I came up with, feel free to post comments, ideas, additions, changes, things to cut, etc. below. I'll keep this post updated with the latest list and when it was last changed.

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Internet/Communication:
-Epiphany-webkit (FF is too slow and may not build, Webkit seems perfectly fast/stable/functional to me, up for debate)
-Sylpheed (in the interest of speed, was Claws-Mail)
-Pidgin (kept because it seems light enough for the Z, thouroughly tested, easy to use)

Filesystem/editors:
-Nano
-Leafpad
-PCManFM / ROX (Up for debate)
{-GPartED*,**} (unnecessary, heavy)

System:
-Wi-Fi Radar**
-Package Manager (placeholder, potential to change package management system)

WM/GUI:
{-Fluxbox***}
-LXDE (Current line of thinking by me/InSearchOf)

Media:
-Quasar
-MPlayer
-GPicView
-AlsamixerGUI**
{-scrot*}
-GSnapShot (more features than scrot, GUI)
-Audio Codecs:
--Ogg/vorbis
--FLAC
--MP3
--WAV
--?
-EPDFView**
{-MTPaint*} (unnecessary)
-Xournal (seems useful, looks like it works well on the Z's screen res, useful with touchscreens, up for debate)

Office:
-Abiword* (kept for complete out-of-the-box experience)
-Gnumeric* (kept for complete out-of-the-box experience)

Terminals:
-RXVT-unicode (MRXVT is slightly buggy, others use VTE)
{-MRXVT / Aterm}
-Xterm

Security:
-IPTables* (kept because it is powerful/useful, easily ignored, and takes up little space)
-Firestarter* (kept because it is useful, easy to use, easily ignored, and takes up little space)

Other:
-WBar*
-CUPS*
-SSH
-SSHD (not enabled by default)*
-wget
-galculator

Games/Fun:
-XSolitaire*,**,****




*Dumpable if space becomes a concern
**For lack of a better app
{***My personal vote, TBD}
****Requires additional work

{} Removed, shown for completeness


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Capn_Fish
post Jul 10 2008, 10:55 AM
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As much as I like Geany, I think it's overkill for the defaut image. It's somewhat heavier than Leafpad, and most people don't edit code on their Z.

@desertrat: On the ROX topic, I agree completely, especially for directories where there are a lot of files, and the click + drag selection can't really be used.

GPartED has been taken out of the list.

Concerning the .desktop thing....I would have to research HOW it scans them. If it only scans when it's run (eg, when you start X), that's not bad at all. Even scanning when you open the menu wouldn't be THAT bad (and pretty darn easy to patch out).

On the HP48 topic: Link? My concerns here are that it may not fit on the screen well, it may be more complicated than necessary, and that it may be overly large (in KB/MB, not pixels).
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post Jul 11 2008, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 10 2008, 06:55 PM) *
On the HP48 topic: Link? My concerns here are that it may not fit on the screen well, it may be more complicated than necessary, and that it may be overly large (in KB/MB, not pixels).
I think I got my copy from here:
http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17031

The package size is about 100K and you need a ROM image which uses 512K. As you can see from the above link it has been patched for a 640x480 screen so it fits just right.

Attached File  screencap8.png ( 23.85K ) Number of downloads: 39
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post Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(desertrat @ Jul 11 2008, 06:04 PM) *
QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 10 2008, 06:55 PM) *
On the HP48 topic: Link? My concerns here are that it may not fit on the screen well, it may be more complicated than necessary, and that it may be overly large (in KB/MB, not pixels).
I think I got my copy from here:
http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17031

The package size is about 100K and you need a ROM image which uses 512K. As you can see from the above link it has been patched for a 640x480 screen so it fits just right.

Attached File  screencap8.png ( 23.85K ) Number of downloads: 39



hmm, I'd love to start taking my Z to Uni and use it as a calculator. I've only tried a couple of calcs on the Z (apparently the best available) but they just didn't feel usable enough to replace my regular Scientific at uni. If this works as well as it _looks_ then I'd also like to see this included. it's a real-world app that could help make my Z that bit more practical in day-to-day use.

In fact, I really hope this entire project (PdaXRom v2) improves on the standard of currently available distros! Really want to start taking my Z seriously asap! sad.gif

Capt_n_Fish/InSearchOf/et all ... go for it!! I and (ig uess) quite a few others are rooting for you on this smile.gif Just wish I had the skills necessary to contribute myself...
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Capn_Fish   Pdaxrom 2.0 Included Apps   Jul 8 2008, 06:31 PM
stupkid   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 8 2008, 09:31 PM) -...   Jul 8 2008, 07:00 PM
scheck.r   Filesystem/editors: - Nano - Leafpad - Geany(or Be...   Jul 9 2008, 09:05 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(scheck.r @ Jul 9 2008, 05:05 PM) Fi...   Jul 10 2008, 10:13 AM
scheck.r   QUOTEQUOTE(scheck.r @ Jul 9 2008, 05:05 P...   Jul 10 2008, 11:48 AM
Roman   QUOTE(scheck.r @ Jul 9 2008, 05:05 PM) Fi...   Dec 25 2008, 03:41 AM
Jon_J   How about a "lite" version, somewhat lik...   Jul 9 2008, 01:45 PM
mars   QUOTE(Jon_J @ Jul 9 2008, 09:45 PM) How a...   Jul 10 2008, 12:59 PM
InSearchOf   QUOTE(mars @ Jul 10 2008, 04:59 PM) QUOTE...   Jul 11 2008, 09:13 AM
espi   I just started with my Zaurus and the only apps I ...   Jul 9 2008, 03:20 PM
Capn_Fish   OK, InSearchOf (and I ) agree that having "fu...   Jul 9 2008, 04:51 PM
Capn_Fish   Maybe handwriting recognition would be nice (Cellw...   Jul 9 2008, 05:42 PM
Capn_Fish   As much as I like Geany, I think it's overkill...   Jul 10 2008, 10:55 AM
desertrat   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 10 2008, 06:55 PM) ...   Jul 11 2008, 09:04 AM
AmigaFalcon   QUOTE(desertrat @ Jul 11 2008, 06:04 PM) ...   Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM
the_oak   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 9 2008, 09:42 PM) M...   Jul 11 2008, 09:19 AM
Capn_Fish   I think it's just a frontend for parted, which...   Jul 11 2008, 03:57 PM
the_oak   On the desktop and laptop, I've used GPartEd (...   Jul 11 2008, 07:33 PM
Capn_Fish   Like I said, I haven't experienced issues, and...   Jul 11 2008, 07:44 PM
the_oak   By the way, I'm not saying that I think it sho...   Jul 13 2008, 05:00 AM
gsgmx   2 wishes from me: pwm/pi (password manager from k...   Jul 14 2008, 12:14 PM
Capn_Fish   I don't think Vim will make it, as we already ...   Jul 14 2008, 08:09 PM
the_oak   For System >> Package manager, I see there i...   Jul 15 2008, 03:45 AM
Capn_Fish   Oh, yeah... I don't have final word on what t...   Jul 15 2008, 07:42 AM
desertrat   What about aptitude for the package manager? Presu...   Jul 15 2008, 10:01 AM
Capn_Fish   I agree, but tghen there's the user-friendly f...   Jul 15 2008, 01:56 PM
Capn_Fish   The window manager and related stuff appears to be...   Jul 21 2008, 06:42 AM
arzgi   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Jul 21 2008, 05:42 PM) ...   Jul 21 2008, 07:12 AM
the_oak   I used IceWM about 5 years ago on the desktop, and...   Jul 21 2008, 07:58 AM
InSearchOf   I'm going to build LXDE and post some screen s...   Jul 21 2008, 08:35 AM
Capn_Fish   Here's a screenshot from the website, FWIW. E...   Jul 21 2008, 10:30 AM
the_oak   LXDE looks very nice!   Jul 21 2008, 05:08 PM
Capn_Fish   Well. InSearchOf isn't working on it anymore, ...   Dec 25 2008, 08:12 PM
ppyo   QUOTE(Capn_Fish @ Dec 25 2008, 11:12 PM) ...   Dec 26 2008, 11:58 AM


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